Michael Bay ruins Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

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waggy

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People are aware of the version of TMNT before the cartoon, but I doubt anyone would say this movie is based in any way on the original comics instead of the 80's cartoon. An ultra violent TMNT wouldn't be a ticket seller.
No matter what the original comics are about, this is 100% based on nostalgia and the cartoon, just as the Transformers were and all the other remakes of 80's movies and TV shows.

one based on the black and white comics would be great (its still on going and still as violent as ever). but no way would they do that. it would be rated R .

that would miss out on the kids and toys.
 

NetWareHead

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My son is obsessed with the TMNT. They have a reboot on Nickelodeon that is actually quite good.

I had no idea it was a modern day cartoon as well. So I'll assume Shredder is a white businessman in this modern day reboot and thats where the movie is based off of.
 

KidNiki1

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my youngest minion is going to crap his pants when he sees this trailer. he LOVES TMNT.
 

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I feel like it would be a good movie but the biggest disappointment to me is that even the 90s turtle movies had real costumes for the turtles, not cgi. It's 2014 and they can't make a convincing costume? Instead they spend huge amounts of money on cgi.... lame.
 

manimal

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what do you think the real target age for this and how young would you let your kids be to watch this?
 

Jeff7

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very much this

it seems like they wanted to humanize the faces more but took it too far, and it just doesn't look right
They took everything that tried to make the faces in movies like Avatar and E.T. look tolerable or otherwise acceptable (neotany), and slammed it all into reverse.


"Let's make them look like the lovechild of Shrek and a turtle! And they need teeth, because a normal turtle doesn't have teeth, and it can make them look extra creepy."




what do you think the real target age for this and how young would you let your kids be to watch this?
Maybe they can do some more excellent product placement to sell more toys.

Example:
Transformers cartoons: Sell plastic toys to little kids.
Transformers CGI movies: Sell expensive toys (cars) to those same kids who are now grown up, and sell toys to their kids.
 
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zinfamous

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Yes, if you go see a Michael Bay film expecting a deep story, then you'll be disappointed. If you just want mindless (albeit entertaining action), he does just fine. There's a place for that. I usually gravitate toward deep/heavy stories, but sometimes I just want stupid humor and explosions. Avengers, Transformers, Dark Knight, Iron Man - it's all just different coats of paint on the same formula, and I find them all entertaining.

Bay isn't nearly int he same league with those, and that's the point.

Bay isn't just mindless explosions--he shits out poorly edited action with excessive dolly shots during pointless exposition, which serve no discernible purpose.

He is downright horrible.

yes, there is a place for mindless action. Bay is fucking horrible at everything, though.
 

smackababy

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Bay isn't nearly int he same league with those, and that's the point.

Bay isn't just mindless explosions--he shits out poorly edited action with excessive dolly shots during pointless exposition, which serve no discernible purpose.

He is downright horrible.

yes, there is a place for mindless action. Bay is fucking horrible at everything, though.

Not to mention, I couldn't even get through "Pain and Gain". I actually knew the real story, so it didn't do any favors to Bay attempting a comedy about a very vile guy.


Regardless, I will still see this movie. I loved the first TMNT and loved the 2nd (even if Casey Jones was not in the film). The 3rd wasn't great, but whatever. I actually like Ernie Reyes Jr, so Keno was fine (I even like Surf Ninjas). He was a martial arts stunt guy in the first film, and the crew liked him so much, they gave him a part in the 2nd movie.
 

KeithTalent

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Bay isn't nearly int he same league with those, and that's the point.

Bay isn't just mindless explosions--he shits out poorly edited action with excessive dolly shots during pointless exposition, which serve no discernible purpose.

He is downright horrible.

yes, there is a place for mindless action. Bay is fucking horrible at everything, though.

Totally agree; not even close to being in the same class. The worst part is Bay's feeble attempts at humour; he seems to think he is hilarious, but the humour he attempts to inject in his films never works. This is why the TMNT should be a bit concerning, for those wanting something similar to what was made int he past; those were light-hearted and funny and I don't think Bay has the talent to pull that off.

KT
 

AznAnarchy99

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IMO the faces aren't bad. The dark grungy Dark Knight story is what bothers me. Everything is going towards that. IMO it didn't really work out well with Superman.
 

MarkXIX

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Why so much hate for Megan Fox. Is it the toe thumbs and pointy elbows that you basement dwellers can't stand?
 

smackababy

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IMO the faces aren't bad. The dark grungy Dark Knight story is what bothers me. Everything is going towards that. IMO it didn't really work out well with Superman.

I think I am one of the of the few people that actually really liked Man of Steel. =( I thought it was phenomenal up until he puts on the suit.
 

KeithTalent

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I think I am one of the of the few people that actually really liked Man of Steel. =( I thought it was phenomenal up until he puts on the suit.

I liked it too there was just a bit too much punching in the last act; enjoyed everything up until then though.

KT
 

AznAnarchy99

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I think I am one of the of the few people that actually really liked Man of Steel. =( I thought it was phenomenal up until he puts on the suit.

My favorite part was Krypton. Everything after that was meh to me. Plus the destruction of Metropolis and millions of people dying yet he had to save a family.
 

MarkXIX

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I liked it too there was just a bit too much punching in the last act; enjoyed everything up until then though.

KT

Agree on that, the punching through buildings and stuff was just ridiculous at some point about two minutes into this "epic" brawl that basically leveled a metropolitan area.
 

destrekor

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Producer, whatever...

You can see his influence from the very start of this trailer.

Trailers for summer movies might as all be directed/developed by Bay, because that's the formula for trailers.

I mean hell, look at the direction they went with for Gravity's trailer - judging a full movie's actual thematic approach is best NOT done by only watching a trailer, because it's typically quite deceptive. Sounds, cuts, effects, etc... there's a formula for trailers.

If you watched most action trailers, you could actually look back and think "hmm, Bay probably had a hand in this!"


I don't fawn over the guy, but I can be entertained by his movies. Sometimes less so compared to other movies of his, or other movies in general... but I sure as hell know what I am getting, an entertaining waste of time, essentially. I don't expect a stellar award-winning film.


And producers only have so much influence. Remember, Bay was also heavily involved in getting this summer's Transformers film wrapped up. If filming is staggered a certain way, yeah he could be heavily involved with both - but Transformers is his baby, and even outside of filming, he would likely be dedicating much time to the Post work.