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McGwire admits using steroids

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Eric62 said:
ManSnake said:
People who are guilty of taking steroids should automatically be disqualified from HOF consideration



Like it are not, Big Mac and Sammy Sosa saved pro baseball with their home run race in '98. Give credit where credit is due...

Charlie Sheen: "Baseball was better on steroids" - LOL.
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i agree they did. But i also think all records by sosa, McGwire and bonds should be deleted.
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surfsatwerk said:
Not even close, but enjoy your delusional fantasy world.
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Pete Rose went to prison for what he did. Plus he agreed NOT to be admitted to the HOF, and put it in a legally binding contract. http://baseball1.com/bb-data/rose/agreement.html

Convicted felon (tax evasion related to his gambling) = worse than a never caught/self admitted past steroid user...

BTW: McGuire never lied about steroids - he refused to answer questions regarding steroids - huge difference. Ask Barry Bonds 🙂
 
felons still play and are in the HOF.

the "contract" can be ignored anytime (and will. just a matter of time).

to say betting on games outside of the sport he was playing/manager of is worse then useing illegal drugs adn cheating is worse is insane.
 
He's only talking now b/c he is going to the be the hitting coach for the Cards. I'm sure the manager and owners don't want him answering steroid questions every single week during the season. So he's tossing this out now, getting it out of the way so he can become the coach and hope it disappears.

He's a dirty cheater! I don't care how sorry these guys are now or how they are "victims of the ERA", they are all a bunch of filthy cheaters.
 
Adrenaline said:
I don't recall him telling lies to Congress. Did he ever lie? I just recall him avoiding the truth.
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He never lied to congress under oath, which is why he can admit it now and not perjure himself. But he lied to fans and media when asked about it. When Canseco basically called him out in his book, Mark always said "I never <used steroids or an illegal substances> and I have always told the truth".
 
Marlin1975 said:
Yep trying to clean his name up to get the HOF.

I hope he, bonds, etc... never get in. Ticks me off that clean players like Dawson took this long to get in and players like Murphy are still not in.
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Dawson getting into the HoF is a so-so thing to me. I see him as a good player who happened to play a long time. He did not stand out as a HoFer to me, but congrats to him for making it on his 9th try (I think it was 9th). How is he a HoFer after his 9th year of eligibilty but not the previous 8 years?
 
Say what you want - McGwire is a classy guy who made a mistake.

McGwire was my childhood hero (After he retired Albert Pujols took his place in my mind) and everything he did personifies class. After hitting the 62nd homerun he didn't take that moment of glory, he gave it back to the Maris's.

In his interview today, he tearfully said he called the Maris's and apologized for everything. He called his father, his sons, his old manager - perhaps the imminent job as a hitting coach forced this on him, but sooner or later he was going to come forward an tell.

If there was one thing I wish he would admit to, while it was physically possible to hit 70 homeruns and while he could have hit 70 homeruns, without steroids it was HIGHLY HIGHLY unlikely. He needs to acknowledge that, while he believes he is able to do these feats, he did not give himself the opportunity to do so without steroids.

I tell you guys what, it hurts seeing your childhood sports hero reduced to tears...
 
waggy said:
yeah betting on shit OUTSIDE of the game is worse then CHEATING IN GAME right?
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Pete Rose bet on games he managed.

At least I know that steroid users are trying to gain competitive advantage and win. What can you say about a gambler. When you're not sure if people involved in the game are trying to win, the event ceases to be a sporting contest. It's a joke, worse than a WWE exhibition.

Rose gets bonus points in my book for denying it for 15, 17 years, whatever it was, then finally half-admitting it to promote *a book*, and I will always believe the position that he put Bart Giamatti in had a hand in his death.
 
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Eric62 said:
ManSnake said:
Like it are not, Big Mac and Sammy Sosa saved pro baseball with their home run race in '98. Give credit where credit is due...

Charlie Sheen: "Baseball was better on steroids" - LOL.
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If it weren't for youngsters trying to emulate their hero's I wouldn't have a problem with pro athletes using steriods, bigger,faster and stronger make for more interesting games.

What I find interesting is that Baseball has come under such scrutiny regarding Steroids where as Football, where Steroids have been part of the sport for even longer, is more or less given a pass. The great Steelers teams of the 70's? Steroid fueled, same with the Raiders under Madden and probably most Super Bowl winning teams up until the mid 90's. I could be wrong but I bet I'm not.
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Some guy on the radio was giving him all sorts of credit for telling the truth and "never lying". "Oh, he came out and told the truth before he got caught, that gets my respect". He went on to talk about how shameful it was for A-Rod to get caught and then admit it. I couldn't believe it. He was even someone in the position to vote a player into the HOF.

Oh yeah, he's such a good guy he enabled the coverup by not assisting congress (that's his choice and he's not outright wrong for it, but he could have helped limit the cheating that exists today). The real stand up thing to do would be admit it sooner and end the farce that was his home run record.
 
Oh yeah, he's such a good guy he enabled the coverup by not assisting congress (that's his choice and he's not outright wrong for it, but he could have helped limit the cheating that exists today). The real stand up thing to do would be admit it sooner and end the farce that was his home run record.
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Did you listen to Costas interview him? McGwire was literally caught between a rock and hard place at Congress. He repeatedly said that he wanted more than anything to tell everyone.

-Kevin
 
SludgeFactory said:
Pete Rose bet on games he managed.

At least I know that steroid users are trying to gain competitive advantage and win. What can you say about a gambler. When you're not sure if people involved in the game are trying to win, the event ceases to be a sporting contest. It's a joke, worse than a WWE exhibition.

Rose gets bonus points in my book for denying it for 15, 17 years, whatever it was, then finally half-admitting it to promote *a book*, and I will always believe the position that he put Bart Giamatti in had a hand in his death.
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Who cares what he did as a manager. His playing years were amazing and for that he should at least be considered for the Hall of Fame.
 
Red Dawn said:
What I find interesting is that Baseball has come under such scrutiny regarding Steroids where as Football, where Steroids have been part of the sport for even longer, is more or less given a pass. The great Steelers teams of the 70's? Steroid fueled, same with the Raiders under Madden and probably most Super Bowl winning teams up until the mid 90's. I could be wrong but I bet I'm not.
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What relevance does this have to anything. Back then steroids came from doctors and were legal.
 
Blackjack200 said:
lol, that made me think of the beginning of "Slapshot"

Which reminds me, why has there never been a hockey steroids scandal? I mean, these guys play a physically punishing sport that rewards the stronger athlete, and staying healthy is a real issue for an 82 game regular season. Are they tested? I know the Olymipians are taking doping tests, but what about the non-olympic guys, or the non olympic years?
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I have been to a few Predators hockey games. Thanks to some sweet free tickets I also got to go to the after game interviews and meet the players. They are not really bulky...more of the lean muscular type. I think lung capacity does more for them then being able to crush an opponents skull with their bare hands. Maybe the need for a steroided up hockey player does not exist.
 
surfsatwerk said:
What relevance does this have to anything. Back then steroids came from doctors and were legal.
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Your morality is akin to a sewer if you think getting Steroids from a Doctor meant that using them wasn't cheating.

BTW I doubt Lyle Alzaido got his from a Doctor.
 
Red Dawn said:
Your morality is akin to a sewer if you think getting Steroids from a Doctor meant that using them wasn't cheating.

BTW I doubt Lyle Alzaido got his from a Doctor.
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Lyle was using roids decades before the league started testing. You're trying to compare the culture of steroids use and sports in the 60's and 70's to that of the 90's.
 
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