McDonald's workers want $15 an hour

[OverVolt]

The problem with socialism, is that people like you don't seem to know what it actually is.

Its actually a famous quote, lmao.

There are a million different reasons and tangents that ultimately lead to it being true, but its the quickest 1 sentence explanation possible.

Margret Thatcher, the former Prime Minister of Great Britain, once said "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

YOU do not know what it actually is. And dumbasses like you vote for it. So we can end up like Europe and Japan. Terrific.

 

[Veliko]

I'm well aware that it's a quote. After all, she was the PM of my country.

I'm not sure how that disproves the notion that you don't actually know what socialism is.

 

[OverVolt]

I'm well aware that it's a quote. After all, she was the PM of my country.

I'm not sure how that disproves the notion that you don't actually know what socialism is.

There is the fanciful idea, and then there is the reality. They're different. UK is almost broke.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-01/markets/30578367_1_debt-gdp-data-source

Instead of government debt, its private debt and financial sector debt, SSDD. Its will be worse in the UK than the USA once you guys start to deleverage as well. Planned economies fail every single time.

 

[Veliko]

There is the fanciful idea, and then there is the reality. They're different. UK is almost broke.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-01/markets/30578367_1_debt-gdp-data-source

Which had nothing to do with socialism.

 

[OverVolt]

Which had nothing to do with socialism.

I think you are like, literally retarded or something.

 

[Veliko]

I think you are like, literally retarded or something.

Which brings us back round to the point that you don't actually know what socialism is.

This isn't the 1960s any more; you need to stop believing the propaganda.

 

[OverVolt]

Which brings us back round to the point that you don't actually know what socialism is.

This isn't the 1960s any more; you need to stop believing the propaganda.

Just wait until the UK has to deleverage its debt like everyone else. I'm glad I'm not in Europe. The USA managed to re-capitalize its banks. Not so in Europe.

It might not actually be possible because the private debt can't be moved onto the public balance sheet without completely blowing up the budget there.

What led to a situation like that is the high taxes, social programs, public healthcare, excess regulation of day to day life, etc. I think you guys need a permit for TV? Like, 25 cameras watch you as you shop/walk down the street? Shit is hilarious.

 

[Veliko]

Just wait until the UK has to deleverage its debt like everyone else. I'm glad I'm not in Europe. The USA managed to re-capitalize its banks. Not so in Europe.

It might not actually be possible because the private debt can't be moved onto the public balance sheet without completely blowing up the budget there.

What led to a situation like that is the high taxes, social programs, public healthcare, excess regulation of day to day life, etc. I think you guys need a permit for TV? Like, 25 cameras watch you as you shop/walk down the street? Shit is hilarious.

So you still don't actually know what socialism is, then.

 

[OverVolt]

So you still don't actually know what socialism is, then.

Europe doesn't even realize it is socialist, I already knew this. Is it that you don't think Europe is socialist? Because it is very socialist.

 

[Veliko]

Europe doesn't even realize it is socialist, I already knew this. Is it that you don't think Europe is socialist? Because it is very socialist.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

 

[OverVolt]

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Uh, okay. Do you think Europe is socialist?

 

[Veliko]

Uh, okay. Do you think Europe is socialist?

Europe is a big place, made up of lots of different countries with their own currencies, economies and political systems.

Your question is absurd.

 

[Greenman]

In 35 years Fastfood will be the Career of the future. That is after you qualify for employment. Requirement being 4 year degree in Fastfood operations

Isn't that called a "liberal arts' degree?

 

[kache]

Europe is a big place, made up of lots of different countries with their own currencies, economies and political systems.

Your question is absurd.

I love you.

 

[kache]

Meanwhile in Sweden...

So many blondes.

 

[Red Squirrel]

$15/hour does not really seem that unreasonable for the amount of work and pressure of working in such an environment. The least they could do is offer a step program where you can eventually hit that. Maybe a 1 dollar raise yearly based on performance or something. New employees should start at 10 bucks or whatever minimum wage is these days, then have paths to go up over time. It's only fair really.

 

[kache]

$15/hour does not really seem that unreasonable for the amount of work and pressure of working in such an environment. The least they could do is offer a step program where you can eventually hit that. Maybe a 1 dollar raise yearly based on performance or something. New employees should start at 10 bucks or whatever minimum wage is these days, then have paths to go up over time. It's only fair really.

I higly doubt anyone would work for 5+ years in a row in a mcdonalds...

 

[Nintendesert]

I higly doubt anyone would work for 5+ years in a row in a mcdonalds...

Read the article again, one chick was there for 8 years.

 

[kache]

Read the article again, one chick was there for 8 years.

Wow.
Then it might work, if no upper cap is put. If someone actually manages to work there for 10 years in a row he deserves to be paid 20$ per hour.

 

[Robsasman]

YOU do not know what it actually is. And dumbasses like you vote for it. So we can end up like Europe and Japan. Terrific.

I dont think you'll have too worry about that in your life time. You dumbasses will be in the dark ages for at least another hundred years.

 

[Imp]

I higly doubt anyone would work for 5+ years in a row in a mcdonalds...

There are lifer fast food workers everywhere.

I've been paid $7/hr and $13/hour -- neither gets you very far, but the difference matters when it's that low. You won't be living it up either way.

 

[Olikan]

then become a fucking brick layer and make more money??

yep, already thought about that...
but it's a really hard work, i doubt that i could keep going to college at the same time

 

[Nintendesert]

Wow.
Then it might work, if no upper cap is put. If someone actually manages to work there for 10 years in a row he deserves to be paid 20$ per hour.

I don't see why. It's not exactly skilled labor. Those 10 years should have been spent on job training for something better or even moving up to manager within the franchise.

 

[nCred]

I haven't read much of the thread but since the salary of Swedish Mcdonald's employees was mentioned... You can't just convert a salary in Swedish Kronor into US dollars and make it a meaningful comparison. The taxes are higher here and so are the prices of almost everything. If you make the equivalent of $15 an hour in Sweden, it probably compares to making $10-11 in the US if you look at buying power.

 

[Veliko]

I haven't read much of the thread but since the salary of Swedish Mcdonald's employees was mentioned... You can't just convert a salary in Swedish Kronor into US dollars and make it a meaningful comparison. The taxes are higher here and so are the prices of almost everything. If you make the equivalent of $15 an hour in Sweden, it probably compares to making $10-11 in the US if you look at buying power.

The quality of life will be higher for the Swedish McDonalds worker.