McDonalds answer to $15/hr min wages

[Lash444]

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[UglyCasanova]

CEO of Carl's Jr wants to try out automated restaurants

 

[soundforbjt]

CEO of Carl's Jr wants to try out automated restaurants

Wait'll he has to replace the kiosks cause they keep getting destroyed...Might not be that cheap after all.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Wait'll he has to replace the kiosks cause they keep getting destroyed...Might not be that cheap after all.

I have no doubt that will be a factor, but if the economic incentive is there it's only a matter of time before the technology catches up.

 

[soundforbjt]

I have no doubt that will be a factor, but if the economic incentive is there it's only a matter of time before the technology catches up.

I agree.

And Trump really believes Apple will build a factory here? He's blowing a lotta smoke up people's asses, people that will be even angrier if he's elected & they don't come true...

 

[mxnerd]

This is probably what you will see.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

McKiosks!

I for one welcome these automated underlings

You realize that McDonalds is a global corporation, right? And in many of those OTHER countries, where MOST of the stores are located, the govts don't allow McDonalds to pay slave wages, right?

This was bound to happen anyway, and it won't stop there either. We have already reached the turning point in which automation destroys more jobs than it creates.

 

[waggy]

You realize that McDonalds is a global corporation, right? And in many of those OTHER countries, where MOST of the stores are located, the govts don't allow McDonalds to pay slave wages, right?

This was bound to happen anyway, and it won't stop there either. We have already reached the turning point in which automation destroys more jobs than it creates.

slave wages. that term cracks me up.


I will say that when i worked fast food the pay was fine for me and everyone that i knew working in it. During hte day were college kids/retired people. evenings were high school kids.

i rarely recall seeing a 30+ yr old working at mcdonalds.

 

[interchange]

slave wages. that term cracks me up.


I will say that when i worked fast food the pay was fine for me and everyone that i knew working in it. During hte day were college kids/retired people. evenings were high school kids.

i rarely recall seeing a 30+ yr old working at mcdonalds.

This is wise. One great thing about franchise model businesses is the growth opportunity. Very often people moving up the ladder come from within based on their merit, attitude, and aptitude rather than resume. Supervisors, managers, and franchise owners have plenty of ability to have good careers in these roles. Everyday employees are either young people seeking extra disposable income or have the opportunity to move up the ladder through merit. If I were working at McDonalds or similar business models, I'd have my eyes on taking on more responsibility in order to move up the ladder. I think the rewards would be a lot more certain, financially beneficial, and personally fulfilling than lobbying for a higher minimum wage.

Of course, we have also been to several franchise-model places where it was clear the employees had little investment in the organization, culture, or thoughts of having a future within their current environment. At those places, I'd rather have a kiosk.

In a business where staff cares about doing their job well, I'd rather have a person (and would be happy to pay more for it).

 

[CZroe]

You realize that McDonalds is a global corporation, right? And in many of those OTHER countries, where MOST of the stores are located, the govts don't allow McDonalds to pay slave wages, right?

This was bound to happen anyway, and it won't stop there either. We have already reached the turning point in which automation destroys more jobs than it creates.

Certain markets can sustain it, certain ones can't. If only 2/3rds of their USA locations are in areas that can sustain $15 an hour then you'd basically be closing down two thirds of their US locations. Say goodbye to their ubiquity, which was a big part of their successful business model.

 

[Hugo Drax]

slave wages. that term cracks me up.


I will say that when i worked fast food the pay was fine for me and everyone that i knew working in it. During hte day were college kids/retired people. evenings were high school kids.

i rarely recall seeing a 30+ yr old working at mcdonalds.

But in the future those will be the only type of jobs available. So if they get rid of the last level of jobs in America how will people afford the product they sell? You do know McDonalds does good profits and even pays dividends. It is not like they are suffering from losses because they pay higher wages in europe.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Automation might be inevitable but that doesnt mean the government should specifically put in place policies that hasten the uptake of retail POS automation at the cost of current employment. The process should occur as naturally as possible. The draconian minimum wage laws are responsible for the vast majority of kiosks in this country. And now that this damage has been done, the cost of the kiosks are coming way down. POS automation is probably 10 years ahead of where it should be in a free market. Those ten years means a lot of people will be out of work before the free market is able to transition them.

Transition them to what? I would be interested in what the jobs will be.

 

[1prophet]

You remind me of Grant Cardone. If you're in sales you should know his name. He's pretty famous. His real estate portfolio is worth about $350m. Has a New York Times bestseller "If You're Not First, You're Last." And "The 10X Rule." Grant also made much of his initial wealth from sales.

Anyway, Grant has always talked about the power of being an effective salesperson. If you want to create your own economy than going into sales is the only answer. There is no possible way to make a lot of money quickly than sales. But, people unfortunately look down on salespeople.

Because a lot of them don't listen to the customers needs but try to push the product and service that they deem to be most profitable and don't want to know you after the sale when there are issues.

New and used car salesmen are known for this

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...n_car_salesman_least_trusted_professions.html
Here was the question's exact wording: "Please tell me how you would rate the honesty and ethical standards of people in these different fields—very high, high, average, low or very low? How about—[RANDOM ORDER]"

 

[DrunkenSano]

You realize that McDonalds is a global corporation, right? And in many of those OTHER countries, where MOST of the stores are located, the govts don't allow McDonalds to pay slave wages, right?

This was bound to happen anyway, and it won't stop there either. We have already reached the turning point in which automation destroys more jobs than it creates.

You realize the quality of McDonalds in other countries are much, much hire than the slum-like stores here in the US? Employees there are rated at a much higher standard, ones you would see in a restaurant (Mainly in Japan and Taiwan where I have visited).

The staff in the McDonalds here in the US have the people skills of an angry honey badger but not the intelligence of one. Also, the jobs that aren't manager levels at McDonalds are not meant to be career jobs, they were for high-school kids to gain real life working experience, to try to develop a proper work ethic in preparation for when they step into the real world as adults, and to help them work on people to people interaction.

How you have lazy slobs that work there who do nothing but complain because they feel they are entitled to some sort of career salary wage for a job that requires minimal intelligence and no real education. Get real. You should be paid how much the job is worth, not how much you feel the job is worth.

 

[Sonikku]

Because a lot of them don't listen to the customers needs but try to push the product and service that they deem to be most profitable and don't want to know you after the sale when there are issues.

New and used car salesmen are known for this

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...n_car_salesman_least_trusted_professions.html
Here was the question's exact wording: "Please tell me how you would rate the honesty and ethical standards of people in these different fields—very high, high, average, low or very low? How about—[RANDOM ORDER]"

I'm surprised Psychiatrists were regarded with having moderate to low integrity.

 

[Ns1]

Transition them to what? I would be interested in what the jobs will be.

History has shown people will figure it out.

 

[Jaskalas]

How you have lazy slobs that work there who do nothing but complain because they feel they are entitled to some sort of career salary wage for a job that requires minimal intelligence and no real education. Get real. You should be paid how much the job is worth, not how much you feel the job is worth.

The working poor. Are you defending that position?
Maybe workers want jobs that don't leave them destitute.

 

[mxnerd]

Domino's will use robots to deliver pizzas in New Zealand

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/18/11259978/dominos-robot-pizza-delivery-trial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb0nxQyv7RU

 

[interchange]

I'm surprised Psychiatrists were regarded with having moderate to low integrity.

I'm going to choose to be included in the "Medical doctors" category since I have a piece of paper with the words "Doctor of Medicine" written on it with a fancy seal.

In all seriousness, I'm not surprised of the perception. I think, as a whole, psychiatrists have more integrity than other medical specialties. However, when they do not, they have great opportunity to make a name for themselves as drug pushers or things like having sex with patients. The rest of us usually keep a very low profile and concern ourselves with the welfare of our patients. That, and there is a defensive incentive to not trust psychiatrists. After all, most people don't like the idea that they may have some mental defect and that they may be dependent on someone else to address that defect. Much easier to disavow your problems and to devalue the role of someone whose job it is to help knowing that they will not be complicit in disavowing your problems.

My hope is that if you polled people with psychiatrists what they thought of the integrity of their psychiatrist that the numbers would be much more favorable. Although, I have my doubts on that reality.

 

[FrankRamiro]

I believe Trump can get minimum wage to 15 bucks here in USA ,it's really easy,by his words if he tells the truth and i believe so,by bringing all the factories that Clinton,Bush, Obama sent to China back to USA,you see; before these god damn politicians sold out to the Communist Chinese,Unbelievable the Chinese that have no regard for Human rights,that these god damn American politicians so much talked about, and completely shutdown some economies talking about Cuba,Venezuela just to name a few that did not followed USA policies,but did Chinese followed USA Policies? to have so much economic support from American politicians?

 

[hal2kilo]

Since when did quality and 'fast food' go hand-in-hand?

Really all these people bitching about not getting the CUSTOM ordered burger right at a fast food place.. These are the jerks that make the drive up lane slow.

If you don't like the burgers that way they make them, go somewhere else! Or go to a sit down restaurant.

 

[soundforbjt]

I believe Trump can get minimum wage to 15 bucks here in USA ,it's really easy,by his words if he tells the truth and i believe so,by bringing all the factories that Clinton,Bush, Obama sent to China back to USA,you see; before these god damn politicians sold out to the Communist Chinese,Unbelievable the Chinese that have no regard for Human rights,that these god damn American politicians so much talked about, and completely shutdown some economies talking about Cuba,Venezuela just to name a few that did not followed USA policies,but did Chinese followed USA Policies? to have so much economic support from American politicians?

If you think Apple (for example) is going to build a factory here and abandon China, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Edit: Though I think you already bought a bridge from Trump...

 

[Sonikku]

You should be paid how much the job is worth, not how much you feel the job is worth.

I'm guessing people's jobs aren't going to be worth very much once that ai and automation get going in a couple decades. :hmm:

 

[JEDI]

This was bound to happen anyway, and it won't stop there either. We have already reached the turning point in which automation destroys more jobs than it creates.

still own stock in that horse buggy whip company?

 

[JEDI]

History has shown people will figure it out.

yeah.. be a leech on the govt safety hammock