McConnel onboard with impeachment?

[Fanatical Meat]

Losing the senate was 100% Mitch's fault for not passing $2k stimulus checks like a giant douchebag.

Maybe but I’m not so sure of that mainly because the President is so spur of the moment and shows zero consistency. I’m sure the President was against the $2k until one morning he read something then was for the $2k.
Pretty hard to make a deal with someone who frequently changes the terms of the deal on a whim.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I wonder why more don't jump on board, I'd imagine having to stop session and hide from trump thugs as they rampaged the hallowed grounds might have a lot of them seething.

Exactly, seems Pence is pissed too because he was there and his wife and daughter were there. Sort of hard to get over that.
President gets a bunch of nuts super excited, tells them to march to the capitol and support our beloved friends (or similar) and take democracy back (or similar), then when shit goes down he says “I love you guys”

 

[Muse]

Yeah, just read the full story in the NY Times. McConnell endorses the impeachment. The article said they think they may have 12 Senate votes now too. They need 17 if the full Senate attends. The rule is 2/3 of votes, so if some don't show up, they're out of the proceeding. Likely to not happen until after the 20th AFAIK. If the senate guilty confirmation happens they will have a 2nd vote to disallow DJT from running again which would need a simple majority to pass.

 

[Phokus]

I find it hilarious that Mitch McConnel found his balls over impeachment because he had to cower in fear for his own life in the Capitol.

 

[Muse]

Trump has outlived his usefulness to McConnell and if there is going to be some kind of party schism best get it going now than at the midterms or in the next presidential cycle.

I'm sure MM thinks the quicker he can get Trump out of the way the better. He's the bull in the China shop. A conviction in the Senate would help. Trump's base will scatter in the wind if he's legally unelectable.

 

[TheVrolok]

I find it hilarious that Mitch McConnel found his balls over impeachment because he had to cower in fear for his own life in the Capitol.

Nah, think it has more to do with losing the GA runoffs.

 

[Muse]

As much as I can’t stand her father, I at least know her calls are coming from a moral place. She was one of the people who called this for what it was.

The NY Times article indicate she's involved with organization(s) that are to put up $50,000,000 to back Reps who vote for impeachment.

 

[Muse]

I wonder why more don't jump on board, I'd imagine having to stop session and hide from trump thugs as they rampaged the hallowed grounds might have a lot of them seething.

Torn between fearing losing their lives or losing their next election?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Another RINO has joined the cause.

First GOP House member says he supports impeaching Trump | CNN Politics

Republican Rep. John Katko of New York said in a statement Tuesday afternoon he will vote to impeach President Donald Trump, becoming the first Republican to sign on to the Democrats' effort to hold the President accountable for his role in spurring on his supporters in last week's storming of...

www.cnn.com

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I agree with the "Mitch is trying to purge the Trumpists of power and swing control back to the traditional corporatist Pubs" argument. Trump was a useful idiot that could be beguiled, manipulated, and bribed to do the party's bidding (see Supreme Court Justice picks from the Federalist Society that were supposed to throw the election in his favor, but really are there to protect corporate rights). The folks who have taken up his mantle are true believers in a weird sort of populist cult of personality, and possibly harder to manipulate.

If Mitch can swing the news cycle during the early Biden Presidency to a Republican redemption story for the moderate republicans, then turn around and say "see, Biden/Dems wasted the first x weeks of his presidency chasing Donald Trump over YET ANOTHER impeachment after he left office over some silly little parade in Congress" to rope in Trumpists, he will have had his cake and eaten it too, and the Trumpist wing of the party will be back in useful idiot mode.

 

[Wreckem]

I agree with the "Mitch is trying to purge the Trumpists of power and swing control back to the traditional corporatist Pubs" argument. Trump was a useful idiot that could be beguiled, manipulated, and bribed to do the party's bidding (see Supreme Court Justice picks from the Federalist Society that were supposed to throw the election in his favor, but really are there to protect corporate rights). The folks who have taken up his mantle are true believers in a weird sort of populist cult of personality, and possibly harder to manipulate.

If Mitch can swing the news cycle during the early Biden Presidency to a Republican redemption story for the moderate republicans, then turn around and say "see, Biden/Dems wasted the first x weeks of his presidency chasing Donald Trump over YET ANOTHER impeachment after he left office over some silly little parade in Congress" to rope in Trumpists, he will have had his cake and eaten it too, and the Trumpist wing of the party will be back in useful idiot mode.

Biden has already asked the Senate to ask the Senate Parlimentarian if the Senate can split duty daily between normal business and impeachment trial. I believe there is no rule or law that prevents them from doing both at the same times

 

[UNCjigga]

It’s like that Kevin Smith movie Dogma. The whole plot revolves around 2 fallen angels planning to walk into a church after a priest promises all who enter shall have all their sins forgiven.

Mitch believes putting GOP reps on the record as pro-impeach at the 11th hour, 59th minute of this presidency will somehow absolve them off all their earlier sins committed with this Administration. It will help them wipe the stain of Trump off the party sooner. Because American voters are pretty dumb on the whole.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I find it hard to believe if McConnell cares about whether or not Trump remains free to damage the nation, or about whether Trump faces any accountability, or about whether it becomes ‘normal’ for Republicans to say that every election they lose was “fraudulent.”

But a lot of corporate donors are saying they won’t support these things. More every day are saying they won’t support members of Congress who support these things.

And McConnell cares about that quite a bit.

Also ... he realizes that his power is fractured right now. He isn’t in control of his caucus as long as Trump is around, and he knows as well as we do that he can’t trust Donald Trump.
Impeachment allows Mitch to regain control; that’s why he’s for it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I find it hard to believe if McConnell cares about whether or not Trump remains free to damage the nation, or about whether Trump faces any accountability, or about whether it becomes ‘normal’ for Republicans to say that every election they lose was “fraudulent.”

But a lot of corporate donors are saying they won’t support these things. More every day are saying they won’t support members of Congress who support these things.

And McConnell cares about that quite a bit.

Also ... he realizes that his power is fractured right now. He isn’t in control of his caucus as long as Trump is around, and he knows as well as we do that he can’t trust Donald Trump.
Impeachment allows Mitch to regain control; that’s why he’s for it.

pretty solid analysis :thumbsup:

 

[MtnMan]

If people think Trump wore the pants in the McConnell Trump relationship I got a bridge to sell them. Ones is the greatest political tactician of the last 100 years and the other is an orange stooge.

I'll give you the political tactician part, but he had never come against a bully like trump before, even in decades in the Senate. He folded like a cheap lawn chair.

 

[Paratus]

I find it hard to believe if McConnell cares about whether or not Trump remains free to damage the nation, or about whether Trump faces any accountability, or about whether it becomes ‘normal’ for Republicans to say that every election they lose was “fraudulent.”

But a lot of corporate donors are saying they won’t support these things. More every day are saying they won’t support members of Congress who support these things.

And McConnell cares about that quite a bit.

Also ... he realizes that his power is fractured right now. He isn’t in control of his caucus as long as Trump is around, and he knows as well as we do that he can’t trust Donald Trump.
Impeachment allows Mitch to regain control; that’s why he’s for it.

Don’t forget Trump encouraged the rabble to invade Mitches Senate, trash the place and put his life in some danger. McConnell isn’t above indulging a grudge, especially when it aligns with goals as you laid out.

 

[RY62]

McConnell turning on Trump and his "movement" could be what it takes to keep things blue for a while. Here in the usually bright red state of AL, mixed in with a few "Civil War" nuts, I've been hearing all week things like "the game is stacked against us and the only way to win is don't play anymore", "Republican and Democratic parties are just two faces of the same puppet masters", "They're going to do what they want to do anyway.", etc. To hear some of these people you'd think AL might be in play next time around. A lot can change in the next couple of years but, right now, I wouldn't expect another high turn out election on the red side for a while, especially if they're seen as attacking Trump on his way out. Legalize weed and send me another check. I'm done too. LOL

 

[vi edit]

If Trump is impeached and convinced he can't run in 2024. With him rumbling as a spoiler in 2024 Mitch just may be playing the long game.

 

[TheVrolok]

If Trump is impeached and convinced he can't run in 2024. With him rumbling as a spoiler in 2024 Mitch just may be playing the long game.

I think it's absolutely this, and if Trump can't run again it makes him even less relevant even more quickly which may hasten McConnell getting his party back.

 

[Muse]

If Trump can't run he's lost his swagger. Who's gonna listen to him? Why would they? Besides, he can't Tweet!!!!!!! And there are his crimes to consider come 1/21/21.

 

[eelw]

If people think Trump wore the pants in the McConnell Trump relationship I got a bridge to sell them. Ones is the greatest political tactician of the last 100 years and the other is an orange stooge.

Yeah why so many think Mitch was the orange loser's bitch? Mitch played him like fiddle to get everything he wanted with justices.

 

[K1052]

Starting to look pretty real to me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1349197360329461761

 

[cytg111]

Starting to look pretty real to me.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1349197360329461761

came to post this.
wondering if this can/will be used as leverage to resign... but I dont see it, I think the turtle want this clean chop off with the head to be in the history books...

 

[Fenixgoon]

came to post this.
wondering if this can/will be used as leverage to resign... but I dont see it, I think the turtle want this clean chop off with the head to be in the history books...

Given what we've seen of Trump, no way he resigns. They're going to have to force him it is they want him it before January 20

 

[kage69]

He's onboard, but not to help the country. If he wasn't a traitor himself the impeachment would be handled with the velocity and drive of a holy roller shithead being foisted on the Supreme Court. The only thing Mitch cares about is taking care of rich people and sandbagging minority republican power to resist democratic representation.

Notice Moscow Mitch has done everything he can to slow down and obstruct the Biden admin. Made me so mad to hear Biden proclaim how proud he was of Mitch. Really Joe? This reptile is still fucking you and American both, maybe skip the compliments.