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[Indus]

the entire country is my backyard.

Care to test that against the stand my ground law?

 

[pcgeek11]

Republican position on immigration is just like abortion. They make a living talking and bitching about it but don't want to solve the problem

Obviously the Democrats don't either.

 

[soundforbjt]

Talk to people around the country. The Abortion issue is not a Silver Bullet for Dems.

Not all on the Left agree with Abortion and allowing folks to cross the southern border illegally and then be handed what amounts to hundreds of millions in aid while people who were born here get smashed by the rich.

Something tells me you don't appreciate anyone who does not march in lockstep with you. I am a Dem, but not a Liberal. Or a Progressive.

So you personally have traveled the country talking to people about this issue?
And do you also support jailing(since fines don't work) those business owners that knowingly exploit their labor?

 

[fskimospy]

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Obviously the Democrats don't either.

Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.

 

[pcgeek11]

Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.

They didn't "fix" anything. They attempted to and failed as usual as neither side wants to work together.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Obviously the Democrats don't either.

More or less, we need reasonable people with achievable ideas (goals) to sit down and craft a sensible policy.
Policy can’t be all are welcome without any vetting
Policy can’t be none are welcome ever.
Crazy stuff that needs to be off the table:
Bizarre “oppression” like I have a child limit was or something similar
Threats from home country need to be real threats
Separating families because it’s “tough”
Shooting all that cross the boarder.

There needs to be actions and I am fine with fences/walls being part of that action where they make sense
Funding needs to be assigned and ideally be self funding as in $x goes to funding boarder no matter what
There also needs to be accountability with those who control that money and how they act at the boarder. Basically I am all for paying boarder patrols a ton more money, with that money we need to establish where it comes from even if it’s a new tax and those receiving that money need to be accountable to their spending and policy interpretation.

 

[HomerJS]

Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.

They didn't "fix" anything. They attempted to and failed as usual as neither side wants to work together.
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Republicans sat on their hands in the House while Democrats got the job done in the Senate bringing along 14 Republicans

Kinda goes against what you just said.

Here's why...

Conservatives not affiliated with the House embrace the legislation because it’s consistent with major tenets of conservatism. Why, then, do many House Republicans oppose comprehensive immigration reform, as presented in the Senate bill?

It’s because House Republicans aren’t motivated by true conservatism. Rather, they represent constituencies haunted by anxiety associated with the perception that they’re “losing their country” to immigrants from south of the border.
The Republican Party is 89 percent white, and 97 percent of Republican House districts in the 113th Congress have white majorities. Moreover, 67 House Republicans won seats with the support of the Tea Party. And people who are highly identified with the Tea Party are anxious about Latino immigrants taking over “their” country. In some instances, Tea Party groups are leading the charge against comprehensive reform.

The (Real) Reason Why the House Won’t Pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform (brookings.edu)

 

[soundforbjt]

Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.

They didn't "fix" anything. They attempted to and failed as usual as neither side wants to work together.
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By "neither side" you mean House republicans.

 

[fskimospy]

They didn't "fix" anything. They attempted to and failed as usual as neither side wants to work together.

House Democrats, Senate Democrats, and Senate Republicans DID work together and passed a filibuster proof immigration reform bill that the House Republicans then scuttled.

There's no way to both sides this - one side is clearly the problem because they are the ones who blocked it.

 

[fskimospy]

More or less, we need reasonable people with achievable ideas (goals) to sit down and craft a sensible policy.
Policy can’t be all are welcome without any vetting
Policy can’t be none are welcome ever.
Crazy stuff that needs to be off the table:
Bizarre “oppression” like I have a child limit was or something similar
Threats from home country need to be real threats
Separating families because it’s “tough”
Shooting all that cross the boarder.

There needs to be actions and I am fine with fences/walls being part of that action where they make sense
Funding needs to be assigned and ideally be self funding as in $x goes to funding boarder no matter what
There also needs to be accountability with those who control that money and how they act at the boarder. Basically I am all for paying boarder patrols a ton more money, with that money we need to establish where it comes from even if it’s a new tax and those receiving that money need to be accountable to their spending and policy interpretation.

Man that sure sounds like a good idea some people should put in a bill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigration_Modernization_Act_of_2013

 

[theeedude]

Still going to vote party line Democrat, since the alternative is fascism and continued loss of our rights.

 

[ivwshane]

Obviously the Democrats don't either.

It’s odd that you would say this when it’s been explained to you more than once other than today.

Obama and senate republicans came to a bipartisan deal to both improve legal immigration and border security. House republicans refused to even bring it to a vote because they were afraid it would pass.

 

[Indus]

Still going to vote party line Democrat, since the alternative is fascism and continued loss of our rights.

You will be forever in debt, able to own nothing and be happy under your fascist founding fathers!

 

[kt]

I found new avatar for @pcgeek11

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Man that sure sounds like a good idea some people should put in a bill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigration_Modernization_Act_of_2013

Still went nowhere, result is the same failure. As I’ve heard “efforts are appreciated, results are rewarded”
Sort of a cold statement but it is true. Regardless if just a handful of republicans stopped it the result is the same.

 

[MrSquished]

We also know if those people seeking asylum looked like Scandinavians - Felix and most of his regressive GQP folks would be running down there with ladders and food and snacks asking them 'any of y'all need something? can I help y'all get over that obstacle?'

 

[soundforbjt]

I'll believe republicans are really against illegal immigration when they pass a law mandating jail time for those that exploit (hire) them. And I don't mean the plant manager, I mean the president, CEO, actual owner sees jail. Until then it's all posturing.

 

[brycejones]

I'll believe republicans are really against illegal immigration when they pass a law mandating jail time for those that exploit (hire) them. And I don't mean the plant manager, I mean the president, CEO, actual owner sees jail. Until then it's all posturing.

Very much this.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Weird Al has a song for you.

🎵 This land is your land, this land is my land, from California to the New York Island! 🎵

Deport illegals, secure the border...this land needs more legal emigres...

 

[dainthomas]

These peeps should be bussed right back across the southern border and no city should be applauded for housing illegals in violation of our immigration laws. If they want to be a "sanctuary" then let them shoulder all of the costs associated with it.

Seeking asylum is not a violation of the law. FFS.

As a citizen of America, the entire country is my backyard. Many of my fellow Americans are homeless in big cities partly in thanks to jobs that are being taken by illegals who are in fact illegally employed. But since Brandon allows this activity to take place, we just look the other way.

New alert Brandon: They cant vote for you.

Conservatives care about homeless people as much as they do about veterans. As in, they do until they're asked to spend a nickel to fix the problem.

 

[nakedfrog]

🎵 This land is your land, this land is my land, from California to the New York Island! 🎵

Deport illegals, secure the border...this land needs more legal emigres...

You definitely don't understand that song.

 

[Commodus]

🎵 This land is your land, this land is my land, from California to the New York Island! 🎵

Deport illegals, secure the border...this land needs more legal emigres...

Net migration rates in the US have barely changed in the past 20 years, and the past couple of years aren't good examples because the pandemic unsurprisingly curbed migration as a whole (particularly legal migration, as it often depends on commercial travel). So there isn't really much of a crisis.

While border security and illegal immigration are problems, they're not as serious as you've been led to believe. If anything, the bigger problem is that conservative politicians exaggerate the importance of the problem to exploit xenophobia and hyper-nationalism; don't give in.

 

[pcgeek11]

I'll believe republicans are really against illegal immigration when they pass a law mandating jail time for those that exploit (hire) them. And I don't mean the plant manager, I mean the president, CEO, actual owner sees jail. Until then it's all posturing.

I'd agree with that.

Put them in jail and/or massive fines for hiring illegal aliens.

 

[hal2kilo]

House Democrats, Senate Democrats, and Senate Republicans DID work together and passed a filibuster proof immigration reform bill that the House Republicans then scuttled.

There's no way to both sides this - one side is clearly the problem because they are the ones who blocked it.

They don't want an immigration policy because then they wouldn't have it as an annual funding raising tool.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'd agree with that.

Put them in jail and/or massive fines for hiring illegal aliens.

There's already fines on the books now, but the big industries still save lots of money even accounting for the fines should they get caught. Jail time would be the only deterrent that may work.