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the entire country is my backyard.
Care to test that against the stand my ground law?
the entire country is my backyard.
Republican position on immigration is just like abortion. They make a living talking and bitching about it but don't want to solve the problem
So you personally have traveled the country talking to people about this issue?Talk to people around the country. The Abortion issue is not a Silver Bullet for Dems.
Not all on the Left agree with Abortion and allowing folks to cross the southern border illegally and then be handed what amounts to hundreds of millions in aid while people who were born here get smashed by the rich.
Something tells me you don't appreciate anyone who does not march in lockstep with you. I am a Dem, but not a Liberal. Or a Progressive.
Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.Obviously the Democrats don't either.
Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.
More or less, we need reasonable people with achievable ideas (goals) to sit down and craft a sensible policy.Obviously the Democrats don't either.
Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.
Conservatives not affiliated with the House embrace the legislation because it’s consistent with major tenets of conservatism. Why, then, do many House Republicans oppose comprehensive immigration reform, as presented in the Senate bill?
It’s because House Republicans aren’t motivated by true conservatism. Rather, they represent constituencies haunted by anxiety associated with the perception that they’re “losing their country” to immigrants from south of the border.
The Republican Party is 89 percent white, and 97 percent of Republican House districts in the 113th Congress have white majorities. Moreover, 67 House Republicans won seats with the support of the Tea Party. And people who are highly identified with the Tea Party are anxious about Latino immigrants taking over “their” country. In some instances, Tea Party groups are leading the charge against comprehensive reform.
Not true - Democrats passed a bipartisan immigration bill with Republicans in the Senate and then House Republicans refused to even bring it up for a vote out of fears it would pass.
House Democrats, Senate Democrats, and Senate Republicans DID work together and passed a filibuster proof immigration reform bill that the House Republicans then scuttled.They didn't "fix" anything. They attempted to and failed as usual as neither side wants to work together.
Man that sure sounds like a good idea some people should put in a bill.More or less, we need reasonable people with achievable ideas (goals) to sit down and craft a sensible policy.
Policy can’t be all are welcome without any vetting
Policy can’t be none are welcome ever.
Crazy stuff that needs to be off the table:
Bizarre “oppression” like I have a child limit was or something similar
Threats from home country need to be real threats
Separating families because it’s “tough”
Shooting all that cross the boarder.
There needs to be actions and I am fine with fences/walls being part of that action where they make sense
Funding needs to be assigned and ideally be self funding as in $x goes to funding boarder no matter what
There also needs to be accountability with those who control that money and how they act at the boarder. Basically I am all for paying boarder patrols a ton more money, with that money we need to establish where it comes from even if it’s a new tax and those receiving that money need to be accountable to their spending and policy interpretation.
Obviously the Democrats don't either.
Obama and senate republicans came to a bipartisan deal to both improve legal immigration and border security. House republicans refused to even bring it to a vote because they were afraid it would pass.
Still going to vote party line Democrat, since the alternative is fascism and continued loss of our rights.
Still went nowhere, result is the same failure. As I’ve heard “efforts are appreciated, results are rewarded”Man that sure sounds like a good idea some people should put in a bill.
Very much this.I'll believe republicans are really against illegal immigration when they pass a law mandating jail time for those that exploit (hire) them. And I don't mean the plant manager, I mean the president, CEO, actual owner sees jail. Until then it's all posturing.
These peeps should be bussed right back across the southern border and no city should be applauded for housing illegals in violation of our immigration laws. If they want to be a "sanctuary" then let them shoulder all of the costs associated with it.
As a citizen of America, the entire country is my backyard. Many of my fellow Americans are homeless in big cities partly in thanks to jobs that are being taken by illegals who are in fact illegally employed. But since Brandon allows this activity to take place, we just look the other way.
New alert Brandon: They cant vote for you.
I'll believe republicans are really against illegal immigration when they pass a law mandating jail time for those that exploit (hire) them. And I don't mean the plant manager, I mean the president, CEO, actual owner sees jail. Until then it's all posturing.
They don't want an immigration policy because then they wouldn't have it as an annual funding raising tool.House Democrats, Senate Democrats, and Senate Republicans DID work together and passed a filibuster proof immigration reform bill that the House Republicans then scuttled.
There's no way to both sides this - one side is clearly the problem because they are the ones who blocked it.
There's already fines on the books now, but the big industries still save lots of money even accounting for the fines should they get caught. Jail time would be the only deterrent that may work.I'd agree with that.
Put them in jail and/or massive fines for hiring illegal aliens.
