May 6th Primaries Thread

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
So, what's with the "empty suit?"

Empty suit without checks and balances is the worst case scenario. See Bush.

Yeah, because Obama and Bush are sooooo alike. :roll:

By the way, you didn't answer his question. Go ahead and define 'empty suit'.

He stands for nothing. All we know is he is a big follower of black liberation theology and his healthcare plan won't work.

Thank you for answering - but may I ask you, sir - what is this "black liberation theology" you refer to?

His church. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology

So, you feel that if, and if, Obama became President, he'd want to enslave whitey?

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
So, what's with the "empty suit?"

Empty suit without checks and balances is the worst case scenario. See Bush.

Yeah, because Obama and Bush are sooooo alike. :roll:

By the way, you didn't answer his question. Go ahead and define 'empty suit'.

He stands for nothing. All we know is he is a big follower of black liberation theology and his healthcare plan won't work.

He knows what's wrong with Washington and he's not afraid to attack it head on. Hence the no money from lobbyists or big business. A president should make decisions with the people in mind, not those who are slipping hundreds of thousands of dollars into their pockets to pull policy in their favor.

He knows what people want to hear.

I thought Hillary said he was out of touch with the people?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
So, what's with the "empty suit?"

Empty suit without checks and balances is the worst case scenario. See Bush.

Yeah, because Obama and Bush are sooooo alike. :roll:

By the way, you didn't answer his question. Go ahead and define 'empty suit'.

He stands for nothing. All we know is he is a big follower of black liberation theology and his healthcare plan won't work.

He knows what's wrong with Washington and he's not afraid to attack it head on. Hence the no money from lobbyists or big business. A president should make decisions with the people in mind, not those who are slipping hundreds of thousands of dollars into their pockets to pull policy in their favor.

He knows what people want to hear.

Sounds like a winning political skill to me.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
So, what's with the "empty suit?"

Empty suit without checks and balances is the worst case scenario. See Bush.

Yeah, because Obama and Bush are sooooo alike. :roll:

By the way, you didn't answer his question. Go ahead and define 'empty suit'.

He stands for nothing. All we know is he is a big follower of black liberation theology and his healthcare plan won't work.

He knows what's wrong with Washington and he's not afraid to attack it head on. Hence the no money from lobbyists or big business. A president should make decisions with the people in mind, not those who are slipping hundreds of thousands of dollars into their pockets to pull policy in their favor.

He knows what people want to hear.

you mean like hillary 'gas-holiday' clinton?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Vic
And for those of you (like me) who might have been getting worried about the little blank spot in the lower right hand corner, per wikipedia, Union county, Indiana only has a population of 7,349.

edit: a population tally virtually unchanged for the past 170 years too, it seems.

Also looks like Monroe is 67% reporting and going 2:1 to Obama. Not a big county but it will help.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Vic
And for those of you (like me) who might have been getting worried about the little blank spot in the lower right hand corner, per wikipedia, Union county, Indiana only has a population of 7,349.

edit: a population tally virtually unchanged for the past 170 years too, it seems.

Also looks like Monroe is 67% reporting and going 2:1 to Obama. Not a big county but it will help.

I go school at Indiana University in Bloomington, looks like the hardcore campaigning paid off. I've never seen anything like it, I got asked at least 5 or 6 times every day for the past month to vote for Obama. Didn't see a single person campaigning for Hillary. I think 5,000 showed up to hear her talk when she came to Bloomington, compared to the 13,000 who came to see Obama

 

[Vic]

I'm almost prepared to call IN for Obama. If only I knew which precincts had reported thus far in Lake county.

 

[b0mbrman]

This isn't possible...but look:

Current votes
Clinton 588823
Obama 568156

Extrapolated net votes by county
%reported - Co. - Net Votes
0 - Union - 2000c
28- Lake - 47625o
67 - Monroe - 8698o
98 - Marion - 1259o
99 - Hamilton - 89o

Estimated total
Clinton 590823
Obama 625828

No way...

There is no f'n way...

 

[miketheidiot]

omgomgomgomgomg

 

[ja1484]

Where'd those numbers come from?

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
This isn't possible...but look:

Clinton Obama
%rep'd Co. 588823 568156 Current total
0 Union 2000
28 Lake 47625
67 Monroe 8698
98 Marion 1259
99 Hamilton 89

590823 625828 Estimated total

No way...

There is no f'n way...

Where'd you get that from? Link?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
This isn't possible...but look:

Clinton Obama
%rep'd Co. 588823 568156 Current total
0 Union 2000
28 Lake 47625
67 Monroe 8698
98 Marion 1259
99 Hamilton 89

590823 625828 Estimated total

No way...

There is no f'n way...

Where'd you get that from? Link?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...ries/results/state/#IN


NOTE THAT THESE ARE EXTRAPOLATIONS I DID! ...and are heavily dependent on the rest of Lake going super-strong Obama




For example:
Monroe is 67% reporting and Obama has taken 8,901 votes to Clinton's 4,617 for a net of 4284o = 8901-4617
When Monroe's remaining 33% reports, I estimate that it will net 2110o = 4284o(33%/67%)


[Edit] Oops! Looks like I caught my own mistake

Here:

Current votes
Clinton 588823
Obama 568156

Extrapolated net votes by county
%reported - Co. - Net Votes
0 - Union - 2000c
28- Lake - 47625o
67 - Monroe - 2110o
98 - Marion - 1259o
99 - Hamilton - 89o

Estimated total
Clinton 590823
Obama 619240

 

[Robor]

Are you using the CNN link and projecting, b0mbrman?

Edit: Heh, I see you explained it while I was writing.

Come on results. I wanna know before I go to bed. Stupid eastern time zone!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
This isn't possible...but look:

Current votes
Clinton 588823
Obama 568156

Extrapolated net votes by county
%reported - Co. - Net Votes
0 - Union - 2000c
28- Lake - 47625o
67 - Monroe - 8698o
98 - Marion - 1259o
99 - Hamilton - 89o

Estimated total
Clinton 590823
Obama 625828

No way...

There is no f'n way...

Thanks for fixing the formatting. It was confusing before.

The problem with extrapolating the votes from the current reporting is that Gary is not all of Lake county, and other cities in the county are expected to be more balanced. So if that 28% is mostly from Gary, then it's either Hillary wins or a recount.

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: ja1484
If you look at CNN's by-county spread here, most of the rural counties are 100% in, where Clinton has her strongest showings. Conversely, the urban areas, where Obama has his strongholds, are mostly only 50-75% in. These areas heavily favor Obama percentage-wise and have very large populations.

Most of Clinton's vote is already in, Obama's only stands to grow at this point. It's unlikely, but he could still carry the state, and if he does lose it'll be by a razor margin.

I just wanted to point out that I semi-called this quite a while ago.

That's all.


Also:

RCP is saying absentee ballots may not be counted tonight, meaning might have to wait til tomorrow for results:

http://time-blog.com/real_clea...nc_primary_thread.html

FWIW, if Billary takes Indiana by 1%, they can have it, don't bother recounting. That would be about as hollow as a victory can get.

 

[ProfJohn]

Look at the country by county map via Washington Post link
Obama's second best county is 67/33

But Lake County is 75/25.

There are going to be a lot of people looking at these results very closely.
Wouldn't it be great to watch the Democrats accuse each of the 'stealing' an election...

 

[Farang]

Clinton has canceled all of her public appearances tomorrow, including her scheduled interviews on morning programs. News organizations seem comfortable addressing him as the presumptive nominee (though they stop short of using that term). It has been over for a while now but I expect a concession soon, if not it will be her playing nice and trying to demonstrate her power with wins in WV and Kentucky, much like the later days of Mike Huckabee's campaign.

 

[ja1484]

CNN now reports Lake Co. 65/35 for Obama.

Hillary's lead is down to 16.5k - keeps narrowing as the night goes on.

I'm off to bed. Look forward to seeing what the morning brings.

Edit:

Linkage

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Look at the country by county map via Washington Post link
Obama's second best county is 67/33

But Lake County is 75/25.

There are going to be a lot of people looking at these results very closely.
Wouldn't it be great to watch the Democrats accuse each of the 'stealing' an election...

You're trying too hard, PJ.

Lake is 65/35 @ 56%.

 

[b0mbrman]

Update, estimate Obama loses by 0.0112%

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[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Farang
Clinton has canceled all of her public appearances tomorrow, including her scheduled interviews on morning programs. News organizations seem comfortable addressing him as the presumptive nominee (though they stop short of using that term). It has been over for a while now but I expect a concession soon, if not it will be her playing nice and trying to demonstrate her power with wins in WV and Kentucky, much like the later days of Mike Huckabee's campaign.

Damn that is twice tonight!!!

I am going to copyright the Mike Huckabee approach. From now on posters must add (PJ) when ever they use that idea.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Look at the country by county map via Washington Post link
Obama's second best county is 67/33

But Lake County is 75/25.

There are going to be a lot of people looking at these results very closely.
Wouldn't it be great to watch the Democrats accuse each of the 'stealing' an election...

That's why I said it depends on where in Lake county the votes were coming from. Some precincts in Gary were exit-polling nearly 100% for Obama, according to some sources.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Look at the country by county map via Washington Post link
Obama's second best county is 67/33

But Lake County is 75/25.

There are going to be a lot of people looking at these results very closely.
Wouldn't it be great to watch the Democrats accuse each of the 'stealing' an election...

You're trying too hard, PJ.

Lake is 65/35 @ 56%.

Link says 75/25.

But you may be right, 65/35 is believable.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Update, estimate Obama loses by 0.0112%

0042.jpg

Noooooooooooooo! You jinxed him!

I'm off to bed too. Will F5 in the morning. G'nite all. 'Cept you sense. I hope you wet your bed.

 

[theeedude]

I think Obama will likely be the eventual nominee, but hopefully Hillary will rough him up some for the general election, because he is going to be a bad president, especially for the Democratic party.
He is going to be like Jesse Jackson meets Jimmy Carter, and undo all the momentum the Democrats are having. It's better to have McCain checked by a Democrat Congress for 4 years and try with a better candidate later.