I mean, has there been a president who wasn't a fascist war criminal? Until we return native lands and repatriate our money to those who earned it, we will always be fascist war criminals as a nation, as will our leaders. Relatively speaking, Obama was the best president of my lifetime. He was still a fascist war criminal.
I liked Obama, but he expanded the police state, cracked down harder on the border than GWB and normalized drone strikes overseas. It is fair to call those fascism and war crimes. Again, I like the guy, but I don't worship him.
That's the war criminal part. He authorized hits on civilian populations without authorization by national authorities. He even murdered Americans via this program.
www.brookings.edu
That's the war criminal part. He authorized hits on civilian populations without authorization by national authorities. He even murdered Americans via this program.
Holder: We've Droned 4 Americans, 3 By Accident. Oops. | Brookings
Although President Obama this week approved the infamous Disposition Matrix, the bureaucratic codification of the administration’s so-called targeted killing program, and Attorney General Eric Holder admitted to Congress that U.S. drone strikes have killed four Americans abroad since 2009, Noah...
Edit: I'd add that extrajudicial killings of Americans overseas is quite fascist, it's literally assassination program against US Nationals who conveniently commit crimes while outside our borders. Something authoritarian leaders do all the time.
Edit #2: A more comprehensive look at Obama's criminal actions: https://harvardpolitics.com/obama-war-criminal/
That is probably still not fascism. Fascism is not defined by politics you dont like. Did Obama try to destroy the co equal branches of government? Give all power to him? If he didnt, then its probably not fascism. Probably.
Holder: We've Droned 4 Americans, 3 By Accident. Oops. | Brookings
Although President Obama this week approved the infamous Disposition Matrix, the bureaucratic codification of the administration’s so-called targeted killing program, and Attorney General Eric Holder admitted to Congress that U.S. drone strikes have killed four Americans abroad since 2009, Noah...
Edit: I'd add that extrajudicial killings of Americans overseas is quite fascist, it's literally assassination program against US Nationals who conveniently commit crimes while outside our borders. Something authoritarian leaders do all the time.
This is, quite simply, not what fascism is.That's the war criminal part. He authorized hits on civilian populations without authorization by national authorities. He even murdered Americans via this program.
Holder: We've Droned 4 Americans, 3 By Accident. Oops. | Brookings
Although President Obama this week approved the infamous Disposition Matrix, the bureaucratic codification of the administration’s so-called targeted killing program, and Attorney General Eric Holder admitted to Congress that U.S. drone strikes have killed four Americans abroad since 2009, Noah...
Edit: I'd add that extrajudicial killings of Americans overseas is quite fascist, it's literally assassination program against US Nationals who conveniently commit crimes while outside our borders. Something authoritarian leaders do all the time.
Edit #2: A more comprehensive look at Obama's criminal actions: https://harvardpolitics.com/obama-war-criminal/
Anyone who knows me here knows I think nationalism is poison. That said, when a person renounces their citizenship and/or commits/plans acts of war or terror against the United States, calling them Americans strains one's credibility.That's the war criminal part. He authorized hits on civilian populations without authorization by national authorities. He even murdered Americans via this program.
Holder: We've Droned 4 Americans, 3 By Accident. Oops. | Brookings
Although President Obama this week approved the infamous Disposition Matrix, the bureaucratic codification of the administration’s so-called targeted killing program, and Attorney General Eric Holder admitted to Congress that U.S. drone strikes have killed four Americans abroad since 2009, Noah...
Edit: I'd add that extrajudicial killings of Americans overseas is quite fascist, it's literally assassination program against US Nationals who conveniently commit crimes while outside our borders. Something authoritarian leaders do all the time.
Edit #2: A more comprehensive look at Obama's criminal actions: https://harvardpolitics.com/obama-war-criminal/
Expanding the police state and civilian surveillance infrastructure is fascist. He did a LOT of that as well as aggressively defending those policies via the DoJ.
A bunch of fascist polices do not make it fascism. I get it. It's no true scotsman for people who blindly defend our party. Always.
Regardless of what you personally believe, extrajudicially assassinating americans is a violation of due process, and assassinations themselves are against US policy since the 70's and yet Obama did more of that than any president in decades. Plus, yes he committed dozens of war crimes in the process, such as double tap drone strikes.
Essentially in your mind it isn't fascism until all aspects are 100% accomplished and the nation is under the boot. In reality fascism grows over time in that direction, with a variety of policies that enable fascism, and a series of leaders who either push one or another policy forward or who decline to oppose existing fascist policies. This is an age old debate, but the most common "it's not fascist" line of argument is the one you are making, and it's most commonly made by the far right to claim that since it's not *all* in place we can't call it fascism.What are you on about? Since you can’t be bothered to read the definition, already linked for you, I’ll do the honors
Fascism - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.
So, while Obama made some changes that could be viewed as authoritarian, there’s not a shot at calling Obama fascist.
Look it’s not our fault the dictionary disagrees with you.
Barry Sotero definitely fit the bill. He created the ACA which led to the unnecessary death of thousands of my healthcare dollars, which was a war crime and quite fascist if you axe me.
So fucking weird this is the hill you are choosing to die on after 23 years.
You loved me until you realized I'm to the left of liberals/progressives. Murdering civilians is a war crime. Obama did a ton of that. Intentionally.
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Weird how this became an issue once someone pointed out with evidence that much of what we accuse the right of is also true of our side....
Sounds like a cool both sides thread you should start. Nothing you have posted has to do with raping children or drug use or congressional committees sitting on investigations of one of their own.
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