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Masks? We don't need no stinking masks!!!

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pcgeek11 said:
Who is culpable for Europeans not wearing a mask and protesting? Is that Trump also?
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Who said just because you are European it automatically makes you smart? Sure they have morons there too.

As a side note, yes even some are inspired by Trump. There was some recent Q Anon protests in Germany, Trump inspiration was present.

Trumpism, and it's supporters, are worse for this planet than the pandemic.
 
MrSquished said:
Who said just because you are European it automatically makes you smart? Sure they have morons there too.

As a side note, yes even some are inspired by Trump. There was some recent Q Anon protests in Germany, Trump inspiration was present.

Trumpism, and it's supporters, are worse for this planet than the pandemic.
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Just as I said earlier. And I am now being represented as a water carrier for Trump. They are stupid people all over the world. If you refuse to wear a mask in a group then you are stupid. Trump didn't make these people stupid. They already were.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Who is culpable for Europeans not wearing a mask and protesting? Is that Trump also?
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Why is qanon spreading in Europe right now? Odd, since it's a Trump-centric conspiracy theory. And why is Qanon in Europe directly tied to the anti-mask and anti-lockdown protests there?

slate.com

How QAnon Went Global

QAnon beliefs have become part of anti-lockdown right-wing protests in Germany and beyond.
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Like their counterparts in the United States, European Q adherents see the coronavirus and the lockdown measures imposed to fight it as part of a plot by globalist elites to control the population. Perhaps more surprisingly, “these folks celebrate Donald Trump as much as the American QAnon followers do,” says Kohler.
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Do you actually think there is no connection between the political right in Europe and the political right in the US? Do you think Trump doesn't have supporters and admirers in Europe?

The answer to your question is YES.
 
MrSquished said:
Who said just because you are European it automatically makes you smart? Sure they have morons there too.

As a side note, yes even some are inspired by Trump. There was some recent Q Anon protests in Germany, Trump inspiration was present.

Trumpism, and it's supporters, are worse for this planet than the pandemic.
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Your side note is really the lead here. Trump is the point source of the "anti-mask" movement worldwide. Yes, there are morons everywhere. Specifically, in this case, right wing morons who are admirers of Donald J. Trump.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Your side note is really the lead here. Trump is the point source of the "anti-mask" movement worldwide. Yes, there are morons everywhere. Specifically, in this case, right wing morons who are admirers of Donald J. Trump.
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Point source? I think the more likely answer is that trump supporters and trump himself are the most gullible of all people world wide. It’s trump centric because the biggest believer of Q just so happens to be an extreme narcissist and president of the US.
 
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ivwshane said:
Point source? I think the more likely answer is that trump supporters and trump himself are the most gullible of all people world wide. It’s trump centric because the biggest believer of Q is just so happens to be an extreme narcissist and president of the US.
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No, it is "Trump-centric" because the conspiracy theory is based on anonymous posts which repeatedly allege that there is a conspiracy of satanic liberal pedophiles to harm children and that Donald Trump, who is allegedly the "smartest man in the world," is running a super-secret mission to stop them. Trump is literally the hero of the narrative. The entire conspiracy theory is ABOUT Donald Trump. He isn't just a believer. He's the subject of it.

Hence, if Qanon is in Europe, Trump worship is also in Europe. And since Qanon in Europe is directly tied to the anti-mask protests, Donald Trump is also directly tied to them.
 
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woolfe9998 said:
No, it is "Trump-centric" because the conspiracy theory is based on anonymous posts which repeatedly allege that there is a conspiracy of satanic liberal pedophiles to harm children and that Donald Trump, who is allegedly the "smartest man in the world," is running a super-secret mission to stop them. Trump is literally the hero of the narrative. The entire conspiracy theory is ABOUT Donald Trump. He isn't just a believer. He's the subject of it.

Hence, if Qanon is in Europe, Trump worship is also in Europe. And since Qanon in Europe is directly tied to the anti-mask protests, Donald Trump is also directly tied to them.
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Of course it’s about trump, like I said he’s a narcissist. They make it about him because he’s attracted to such things and others follow his lead because...well...he’s a president. What better way to legitimize fake news/conspiracy than having a president accept it and repeat it as truth. It’s the same reason Putin likes trump, trump’s personality disorder makes him an easy mark.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Your side note is really the lead here. Trump is the point source of the "anti-mask" movement worldwide. Yes, there are morons everywhere. Specifically, in this case, right wing morons who are admirers of Donald J. Trump.
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Trump is indeed a worse threat than the pandemic. It is imperative to remove him from office on Jan. 20, 2021.
 
woolfe9998 said:
The answer to your question is YES.
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So Trump is responsible for the anti maskers in Europe. Glad you cleared that up.

In Germany, the theory has caught on with the so-called Reichsbürgers, a fringe extreme right movement that dates back to the 1980s and holds that the modern German state is an artificial construct created by foreign powers and that the 1937 borders of the German empire still exist.

:thumbsup:
 
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hal2kilo said:
Take that libruls, oh....

abcnews.go.com

Missouri governor, opponent of mandatory masks, has COVID-19

Missouri Gov. Mike Parson, a Republican who has steadfastly refused to require residents to wear masks, tested positive for the coronavirus
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
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I doubt he caught it because of refusing to wear a mask. Rather it means he's probably infected others.
woolfe9998 said:
Why is qanon spreading in Europe right now? Odd, since it's a Trump-centric conspiracy theory. And why is Qanon in Europe directly tied to the anti-mask and anti-lockdown protests there?

slate.com

How QAnon Went Global

QAnon beliefs have become part of anti-lockdown right-wing protests in Germany and beyond.
slate.com slate.com



Do you actually think there is no connection between the political right in Europe and the political right in the US? Do you think Trump doesn't have supporters and admirers in Europe?

The answer to your question is YES.
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Q-anonsense is the "American virus". But just as with coronavirus, you can't blame it entirely on the point-of-origin, it spreads because conditions elsewhere are conducive to it.


www.theguardian.com

QAnon conspiracy theory gaining ground in UK, analysis shows

Followers believe that Donald Trump is waging secret war against ritual child abusers
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com


Edit - interesting that it's not purely a 'right wing' thing, it seems particularly appealing to people into 'alternative medicine' and 'wellness'. Goddam hippies. Mystics usually end up leaning right.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
Who is culpable for Europeans not wearing a mask and protesting? Is that Trump also?
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I've been to protests in Phila. The ratio of mask wearing is completely opposite of Trump. My best guess 90-95% of people are masking up.

Trump is responsible for the US. Stick to topic. You've admitted his people are stupid. If a POTUS suggests to his people something that will cause harm that is completely negligent.

Everyone look at this conversation we are having about a President of the United States. The bar has been lowered so much people like @pcgeek11 continues to justify his behavior as no big deal. What happened to standards? If people continue to accept Trump's behavior and acts as norm we are part of the problem.

I have no intention of being part of that problem.
 
HomerJS said:
I've been to protests in Phila. The ratio of mask wearing is completely opposite of Trump. My best guess 90-95% of people are masking up.

Trump is responsible for the US. Stick to topic. You've admitted his people are stupid. If a POTUS suggests to his people something that will cause harm that is completely negligent.

Everyone look at this conversation we are having about a President of the United States. The bar has been lowered so much people like @pcgeek11 continues to justify his behavior as no big deal. What happened to standards? If people continue to accept Trump's behavior and acts as norm we are part of the problem.

I have no intention of being part of that problem.
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I haven't tried to justify anything. People such as you always wants to blame someone else for our ills and shortcomings. What Trump says or Fauci says has nothing much to do with my choice to wear a mask. It is the intelligent thing to do irregardless of what the talking heads choose to tell you. I was wearing a mask when Fauci and the WHO was telling everyone they didn't need to wear one.

Did you or did you wait to be told by the talking heads?

In the end we are all responsible for our own actions. Some or even a great many of these people will end up regretting their decision to not wear a mask.
 
pcgeek11 said:
In the end we are all responsible for our own actions. Some or even a great many of these people will end up regretting their decision to not wear a mask.
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Thats the kind of thinking that stops thinking. Its the old using a qualitative example to define a quantitative quota. Cant be done, its a fallacy.
A group of people conditioned in x way will respond to stimuli y with z result. Its called sociology. What you are talking about is psychology.
If you know for a fact that your brain cant reach around that, then embrace your limitations .. but why tf would you wanna drag those around you down with you.
 
cytg111 said:
Thats the kind of thinking that stops thinking. Its the old using a qualitative example to define a quantitative quota. Cant be done, its a fallacy.
A group of people conditioned in x way will respond to stimuli y with z result. Its called sociology. What you are talking about is psychology.
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geek can't see that deep, the surface keeps him calm.
 
pcgeek11 said:
I haven't tried to justify anything. People such as you always wants to blame someone else for our ills and shortcomings. What Trump says or Fauci says has nothing much to do with my choice to wear a mask. It is the intelligent thing to do irregardless of what the talking heads choose to tell you. I was wearing a mask when Fauci and the WHO was telling everyone they didn't need to wear one.

Did you or did you wait to be told by the talking heads?

In the end we are all responsible for our own actions. Some or even a great many of these people will end up regretting their decision to not wear a mask.
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Does this mean anything to you?
Asymptomatic spread is the transmission of the virus by people who do not have symptoms and will never get symptoms from their infection. But those infected carriers could still get others very sick.
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Do you think this is some deep state conspiracy? Do you realize your decision effects others? If you want to take up base jumping that is your right. The good news is your base jumping has ZERO effect on me. However if you "choose" not to wear a mask you could infect others and kill them. I guess u cool wit dat.

We have already seen hoards of Trumpers are putting the rest of the country at risk. It's not a coincidence we are 4% of the world's population but have 22% of COVID deaths.

BTW - You continue to put down the medical establishment. Without the WHO, CDC, FDA you wouldn't even know the virus exists. Have they gotten everything right, no but they are using science as a guideline not arbitrary political decisions.
 
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HomerJS said:
The bar has been lowered so much people like @pcgeek11 continues to justify his behavior as no big deal. What happened to standards? If people continue to accept Trump's behavior and acts as norm we are part of the problem.
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The bar has been lowered enough over the last 4 years that you can step over it. Or it it's laying on the ground.
 
cytg111 said:
Thats the kind of thinking that stops thinking. Its the old using a qualitative example to define a quantitative quota. Cant be done, its a fallacy.
A group of people conditioned in x way will respond to stimuli y with z result. Its called sociology. What you are talking about is psychology.
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Hey! You know what?

I don't give a damn what you want to call it with your pseudo sociology / psychology or whatever pseudo babble you are trying to convey.
 
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