http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...45104#44045104
The process to recall the mayor and two representatives has been initiated.
*re-posting so this is at the top of the page*
The process to recall the mayor and two representatives has been initiated.
*re-posting so this is at the top of the page*
amdhunter
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Hahahaha, where are all these White protesters when a person of color gets murdered by the Police?
Page count stuff screws up where it shows up anyways, so edit your OP and put it there.
Sometimes, the police do seem do use excessive force, and there's rarely a video being taken.
This is an example why I think every police officer should wear a video recorder, which will far more often clear them, but help convict them when they should be.
They'll also be a major deterrent to wrongdoing.
Most people who have served on a jury appreciates having that evidence.
This is an example why I think every police officer should wear a video recorder, which will far more often clear them, but help convict them when they should be.
They'll also be a major deterrent to wrongdoing.
Most people who have served on a jury appreciates having that evidence.
Locut0s
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Agreed. From the evidence that we have in this at the moment, I'd say these "police" are just a waste of human skin.
Tweak155
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Should put this update in the OP in a section titled something like *UPDATE 8/6/11* so we don't have to search through the posts to see what the update is.
Just a suggestion
Should put this update in the OP in a section titled something like *UPDATE 8/6/11* so we don't have to search through the posts to see what the update is.
Just a suggestion
Done.... thank you.
Arkaign
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A nice thought, it'd be absolutely hilarious to take these so-called 'officers', break their arms, break their knees, break their legs, take a blowtorch to their eyeballs, tear off their ballsacks with a rusty dull set of garden shears, and have a congo line of people with severe diarrhea take a shit on what's left of them repeatedly, then drag them off into the desert to die alone, hopefully picked apart slowly by wild animals.
That'd be a real laugh.
That'd be a real laugh.
foghorn67
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Fullerton Police Chief on medical leave.
http://www.cityoffullerton.com/civica/press/display.asp?layout=1&Entry=2445
http://www.cityoffullerton.com/civica/press/display.asp?layout=1&Entry=2445
Locut0s
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/da-announces-kelly-thomas-murder-charges.html
Two Fullerton police officers have been criminally charged in the violent confrontation that left a homeless man dead, Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas announced Wednesday.
Officer Manuel Ramos has been charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter in connection with the beating of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas, a homeless schizophrenic man. Officer Jay Cicinelli has been charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force.
Document: Charges against police
Rackauckas said the department reviewed 151 witness statements, videos of the beating, medical reports and police statements.
The district attorney's office had been awaiting the coroner's determination on the cause of death before deciding whether to file charges.
Photos: Kelly Thomas death
Officers approached Kelly Thomas on July 5 at the bus depot in downtown Fullerton while responding to a report of someone trying to break into cars. According to witness accounts, Thomas ran when officers attempted to search his bag. Exactly what happened next is unclear, but witnesses said they saw multiple officers hitting Kelly and shooting him with a Taser while he was on the ground.
Officials from the district attorney's office have said they were awaiting toxicology and other test results from the coroner before making a decision on the case. That report was handed over to the district attorney's office Tuesday, but the findings were not made public.
Thomas, a 37-year-old homeless man with schizophrenia, was a regular presence in downtown Fullerton. He died five days after the confrontation, after being removed from life support.
Earlier this month, an attorney representing the Thomas family released hospital records that showed Thomas had tested negative for drugs and alcohol and that the immediate cause of death was "brain death" due to "head trauma" from the incident.
The hospital records released showed that he suffered brain injuries, a shattered nose, a smashed cheekbone, broken ribs and severe internal bleeding. Thomas also had been shocked with a stun gun "multiple" times, including in the left chest near the heart, the records showed.
Thomas' father, Ron, has been pushing the district attorney's office to file charges against the officers, and the case has sparked a furious reaction, including weekly protests outside the police station and a recall campaign against three City Council members.
Two Fullerton police officers have been criminally charged in the violent confrontation that left a homeless man dead, Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas announced Wednesday.
Officer Manuel Ramos has been charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter in connection with the beating of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas, a homeless schizophrenic man. Officer Jay Cicinelli has been charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force.
Document: Charges against police
Rackauckas said the department reviewed 151 witness statements, videos of the beating, medical reports and police statements.
The district attorney's office had been awaiting the coroner's determination on the cause of death before deciding whether to file charges.
Photos: Kelly Thomas death
Officers approached Kelly Thomas on July 5 at the bus depot in downtown Fullerton while responding to a report of someone trying to break into cars. According to witness accounts, Thomas ran when officers attempted to search his bag. Exactly what happened next is unclear, but witnesses said they saw multiple officers hitting Kelly and shooting him with a Taser while he was on the ground.
Officials from the district attorney's office have said they were awaiting toxicology and other test results from the coroner before making a decision on the case. That report was handed over to the district attorney's office Tuesday, but the findings were not made public.
Thomas, a 37-year-old homeless man with schizophrenia, was a regular presence in downtown Fullerton. He died five days after the confrontation, after being removed from life support.
Earlier this month, an attorney representing the Thomas family released hospital records that showed Thomas had tested negative for drugs and alcohol and that the immediate cause of death was "brain death" due to "head trauma" from the incident.
The hospital records released showed that he suffered brain injuries, a shattered nose, a smashed cheekbone, broken ribs and severe internal bleeding. Thomas also had been shocked with a stun gun "multiple" times, including in the left chest near the heart, the records showed.
Thomas' father, Ron, has been pushing the district attorney's office to file charges against the officers, and the case has sparked a furious reaction, including weekly protests outside the police station and a recall campaign against three City Council members.
amdhunter
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ch33zw1z
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Fixed that for ya. You may believe it's a race thing, but I know many people who will not care what color someone is. This is a police brutality issue.
Anyways, from the update article:
"Thomas' father, Ron, has been pushing the district attorney's office to file charges against the officers, and the case has sparked a furious reaction, including weekly protests outside the police station and a recall campaign against three City Council members."
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Good job citizens.
foghorn67
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Stop trolling your race bullshit.
Fullerton is predominantly white. Odds are against you finding a black related police beating here are slim to none. Go troll another thread.
Red Squirrel
No Lifer
Brutal. At least in this case the victim was not innocent, but damn since when does a B&E deserve an execution? This is crazy.
Thumbs up to that bus driver for keeping an evidence log of witnesses though.
There really needs to be some police regulations about when it is ok to use force, and when to stop. This stuff is just ridiculous.
I can't speak for the rest of Canada, but here cops are pretty nice. You get the odd asshole one but none of this beating up BS. From what I've heard from cops I know, physical interaction normally involves grabbing a guy to cuff him if he's not cooperating, and then shoving him in the back seat of the cruiser. None of this beating up crap. Cops in my town don't even have tasers, and manage just fine. If there's any threatening person they will just be like 4 cops to grab him, cuff him, and take him away. There's no need to beat up someone when you're 4 on 1.
This guy should have been caught, cuffed, dragged in the cruiser, and trialed for B&E. Maybe 6 months or a year in jail... w/e the standard is. It's as far as it should have went.
Thumbs up to that bus driver for keeping an evidence log of witnesses though.
There really needs to be some police regulations about when it is ok to use force, and when to stop. This stuff is just ridiculous.
I can't speak for the rest of Canada, but here cops are pretty nice. You get the odd asshole one but none of this beating up BS. From what I've heard from cops I know, physical interaction normally involves grabbing a guy to cuff him if he's not cooperating, and then shoving him in the back seat of the cruiser. None of this beating up crap. Cops in my town don't even have tasers, and manage just fine. If there's any threatening person they will just be like 4 cops to grab him, cuff him, and take him away. There's no need to beat up someone when you're 4 on 1.
This guy should have been caught, cuffed, dragged in the cruiser, and trialed for B&E. Maybe 6 months or a year in jail... w/e the standard is. It's as far as it should have went.
Is there a source for this? All I see that might suggest this is that he ran when the cops tried to search his bag. He's a homeless schizophrenic, it's not surprising that he's running guilty or innocent.
And that's ignoring the larger issue that he's innocent until a jury says otherwise.
amdhunter
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How many times have we seen police walk away from killing innocent minorities - and this guy was actually GUILTY of a crime and fought the police. Where is all the "you fight the police, you deserve what you get" comments now?
It's a double standard. You might not think so - but I find it incredible how the White community not only got charges against these officers, but even went so far as to get political figures thrown into recall elections.
That's amazing. For a guilty piece of crap criminal.
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