Man says he's going blind thanks to Obama

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Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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Why should my tax burden depend on how stupid you act to recklessly put your health at risk? If you want to provide some base level of care for everyone that's one thing, but fvck no if you want my taxes to go up every time you say "hey y'all watch this" or got shot by another gang member. The guy in the OP article is the perfect example of this. Without personal accountability single payer is a terrible idea.

You think your tax dollars aren't already going there?
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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Who the hell has diabetes, several strokes, and a vision problem requiring $600 treatments, and still refuses to get coverage??

That's like refusing to buy fire insurance as lava flows begin curling up to the front door.

That's not really buying insurance. Insurance is for "in case shit happens", once shit happens it's a known cost and not insurance anymore. It would be like all the Katrina victims buying flood insurance after the levees broke.

That is the reason that the US government ran flood insurance policy takes 30 days to kick in after you purchase it. Otherwise people would just buy it when a possibility of flooding happens, like a hurricane in the gulf or a river swelling, and then cancel it once the threat has passed.
 

JockoJohnson

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Before opening the thread, I thought it was going to be about the guy masturbating so much to Obama.

Back on topic, he is an idiot for not taking advantage of government funded programs that could help him. I don't care if you are D or R. Any reasonable person should get help when needed by using the resources that are available.
 

Blackjack200

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May 28, 2007
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Yeah but that claim is most likely bullshit. There's no plausible reason why the price for that procedure would increase 700% due to the ACA.

I saw that and my guess is that the doctor was probably heavily discounting for people without insurance, maybe even providing the services below cost since people without insurance typically were people who couldn't afford it. Now that the ACA is in place (and, as I understand it, reduced payments to providers) he feels that he shouldn't have to subsidize the uninsured any longer.

So not only is the guy trying to mooch now, but was mooching off the doctor and taking advantage of his good will the whole time.
 
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What are the odds he has his house listed on the market to, you know, raise funds? Or is he expecting to keep his house AND have others pay?
 

dank69

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Actually, yes. Why do they feel the need to be condescending? I surely don't feel the need to so when I make charitable donations.

Maybe it's self hate that make them feel the need to do such.
What does this have to do with your charitable donations? This is one specific person who isn't just down on his luck. He dug himself into this hole and refuses to admit responsibility.
 

highland145

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What are the odds he has his house listed on the market to, you know, raise funds? Or is he expecting to keep his house AND have others pay?
I can't find Luis or Mary in the York Co property records, land or vehicles. Wonder if he ran them through his business?
 

Blackjack200

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Oh shit, time for some 4 chan/SA Forums style internet outing! Does he have a website we can DDOS? :p
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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It's a shitty story, and I have empathy for him. He did it to himself though.
This. Though a more principled conservative stance would have been to purchase a high deductible HSA. He would still be paying his own way, but with a safety net so that if life happens he can still provide for himself and his family without being a burden on others. As is often the case, ideology tends to to flex to accommodate the myhaveits.

If I'm doing him an injustice and he has a true moral opposition to health insurance then my bad, but in that case he has an accompanying moral imperative to band together with like-minded people for mutual aid, as people have been doing for at least hundreds of years.
 
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If I'm doing him an injustice and he has a true moral opposition to health insurance then my bad, but in that case he has an accompanying moral imperative to band together with like-minded people for mutual aid, as people have been doing for at least hundreds of years.

.... Isn't that just health insurance? Sure, it's not on a grand scale run through a corporation, but getting together with a group of people specifically to help out with medical expenses incurred by anyone paying into the group... that's just health insurance.
 

Jhhnn

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What does this have to do with your charitable donations? This is one specific person who isn't just down on his luck. He dug himself into this hole and refuses to admit responsibility.

Well, if charitable giving were all conservatives claim it to be, this guy would have been fixed up some while back.

He's not alone, I'm sure, certainly not in states where compassionate conservatives asserted their values & declined medicaid expansion.

Thank you Justice Roberts & pals.
 

Blanky

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What a knob. Also a great example of why government has to tell some people how to live because they cannot so it properly otherwise. Maybe of he does it right he can through his own stupidity really screw himself more and run up a super huge ER bill on the taxpayer's dime. Being financially comfortable, old, with diabetes, and no health insurance even though it can be bad much cheaper with ACA for someone like that is pure fail.
 

nickqt

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ive always wondered why cant you enroll whenever you want, was is there a "enrolment period"

seems stupid IMO
Step 1: pay nothing into the health insurance pool.
Step 2: get incredibly ill, now sign up.
Step 3: day 1 of coverage, reap benefits.

That's stupid.
You get literally 5+ months to sign up. You can do it online. You can get free assistance that walks you through all of it.

Boots, meet a program willing to plug in bootstraps, lace them up, and tie em for ya. If you aren't an ideological idiot, of course.

Sure, but in the end if his stupidity doesn't have consequences then why should he change his behavior? Now what will happen is that the bleeding hearts will bail him out, and some other sucker who was reponsible but unlucky (say had the same condition and health insurance, but still piled up high bills) will get screwed over because we use all our money to help the first idiot.

Basically if you try to do the right thing and be responsible, then should you ever come to need help the progressives will prioritize you lower than the person who knowingly made bad choices and acted stupidly.
Do you read what you write before hitting submit? So, stupid-head libruuls are going to help conservative idiot, but they are going to prioritize him lower than someone else because he intentionally avoided getting insurance for political reasons. Yeah, seems OK to me. The ACA exists to help people get health insurance. Some people don't know how, but this conservative idiot knew about it but avoided it intentionally because "freedom".

Yeah, I'd prioritize the ignorant person over the willfully stupid.

Actually, yes. Why do they feel the need to be condescending? I surely don't feel the need to so when I make charitable donations.

Maybe it's self hate that make them feel the need to do such.
Self-hate? Yes, that must be it. Or, perhaps, libruuls want to make sure CaptainFreedom™ here knows that had he become a SlaveToObamacare™, he wouldn't be in this situation.

You know, begging evil communist socialist fascist atheist libruuls on the f-ing internet for money.
 

Strk

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Anyone mention the irony that without the ACA he wouldn't have been able to get insurance anyways? He has a preexisting condition.....
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Or, in his case....

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bahahahahahahahahaha.

Yeah, no sympathy from me, tbh.
 

zinfamous

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Maybe it's because this is a teachable moment? If anyone is undeserving of charity, it's somebody who not only engages in risky behavior, but does so proudly, with a holier-than-thou attitude, who then starts whining about how life is unfair when his risky behavior catches up with him. I mean, the wife's quote about how he should get bumped to the front of the line? How tone-deaf can you possibly be? But maybe this guy will change his tune about liberals if self-professed liberals are the ones who bail him out of the inevitable result of his poor decision-making. Maybe he'll continue to be an unrepentant ideologue in the face of overwhelming evidence that he's been wrong about everything, but who knows?

Maybe it's just the liberal tax for the guilt of schadenfreude.

Never happen. This guy is like Dave Chapelle in the sketch where he plays the blind and black KKK Grand Dragon.


Liberals bailing him out will just reinforce in his mind that they are all like that. He will hate them even more, because their actions just prove to him how right he was.

Chapelle sketch (after he discovers that he is, in fact, a black man):

--Frontline dude: So, you've divorced your wife. Why, after 60 years of devoted marriage, would you do this?
--Chapelle: Because she's a n****r lover!