Man says he's going blind thanks to Obama

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senseamp

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The federal government pays 100 percent of the ACA expansion to cover low-income, able-bodied adults, but 21 Republican-led states, including North Carolina and South Carolina, declined to participate.

For now, Lang qualifies only for a South Carolina Medicaid plan that covers checkups and family planning. The aged (65 and older), blind and disabled get more extensive coverage.
Looks he is on the right track...
 

fskimospy

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As per usual, the guy is all about freedom, no handouts, and personal responsibility until he's the one in trouble. Then he starts asking "where is my handout?"
 

Jhhnn

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Why should my tax burden depend on how stupid you act to recklessly put your health at risk? If you want to provide some base level of care for everyone that's one thing, but fvck no if you want my taxes to go up every time you say "hey y'all watch this" or got shot by another gang member. The guy in the OP article is the perfect example of this. Without personal accountability single payer is a terrible idea.

Yeh, that's why single payer or modified single payer is pretty much the norm in the rest of the first world.

Obviously evil socialism, huh?
 

Jhhnn

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The federal government pays 100 percent of the ACA expansion to cover low-income, able-bodied adults, but 21 Republican-led states, including North Carolina and South Carolina, declined to participate.

For now, Lang qualifies only for a South Carolina Medicaid plan that covers checkups and family planning. The aged (65 and older), blind and disabled get more extensive coverage.

That's some catch, that catch 22.
 

Blackjack200

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I actually do feel bad for the guy. I don't think he was being selfish or cheap, it seems like he's just a total ideologue.

I mean, read this shit from his go fund me.

My name is Luis Lang and Several months ago I was told that I had suffered several mini strokes over a period of 3-5 days. Because of this a eye condition that I have has come back with a vengeance. I suffer from Diabetic retinopathy. Because of my condition I have not worked since December. I tried to sign up for the affordable healthcare act but I was refused. And since in SC tghey have not expanded the medicaid program I have fallen into the so called dounot hole. I was told about 1 1/2 years ago about my eyes and found a doctor that worked on a sliding scale for paitints like myself without insurance.My visit were $80.00 per treatment. And I had 3 treatment but when I went in for my next appointment the cost went from $80 to $610. I asked why and was told since the healthcare act was now in place that he could not give me the discount that he was giving me. So at that point I stop treatment but that was ok becouse my eyes were much better. But because of the strokes and stress it has come back with a vengeance like I said before. At this point I'm looking at $10,000 - $30,000 in treatment or I will go blind. At the moment I am down to about 20% in my left eye and about 30% vision in my right eye. So I do need to apologize about my spelling because I can not see very well. I have tried every organization out there but I'm either to young ot to old for there program. I am to old because i am older then 10 and to young because i am not 65 yet I am only 49. As each day goes by my vision get worst. And if I do go blind it will take surgary to get my vision bac if they can.Thank you and god bless.

Who the hell has diabetes, several strokes, and a vision problem requiring $600 treatments, and still refuses to get coverage??

That's like refusing to buy fire insurance as lava flows begin curling up to the front door.
 

fskimospy

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I actually do feel bad for the guy. I don't think he was being selfish or cheap, it seems like he's just a total ideologue.

I mean, read this shit from his go fund me.

Who the hell has diabetes, several strokes, and a vision problem requiring $600 treatments, and still refuses to get coverage??

That's like refusing to buy fire insurance as lava flows begin curling up to the front door.

It IS super sad. He's a guy who is sick and scared, and he's reaching out for help. The thing is that he's reaching out for exactly the sort of help that he's been so vehemently against giving other people.

I want him to be helped, but I want everyone to be helped.
 

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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Poor guy. Caught up in Obama's liberal heathcare madness. If only McCain or Romney got elected president instead like he hoped, and put in their own idea for a healthcare plan. Then I bet he wouldn't be in this fix.
 

Blackjack200

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It IS super sad. He's a guy who is sick and scared, and he's reaching out for help. The thing is that he's reaching out for exactly the sort of help that he's been so vehemently against giving other people.

I want him to be helped, but I want everyone to be helped.

Yeah, and he's angry about "falling into the doughnut" when removing that doughnut would mean full on "Medicare for Everyone". The cognitive dissonance is just incredible.
 

sportage

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I know a couple of people that came up with all kinds of excuses why they could not get Obamacare during open enrollment.
Basically they wanted insurance but were too busy to ask for assistance signing up.
And plenty of one on one assistance was available.
And like most procrastinators, especially those that think of themselves as super human, failed to get enrolled.
THEN, some unforeseen catastrophic illness came along, and poo poo.
Now they blame Obama.
Yeah RiGhT...

You can try to help people. Even as president.
But there will always be those people that listen to too much Fox News, vote against their own best interest, act totally ignorant, then when they get kicked in the butt that just can't figure it out.
I mean really and actually, Americans should have taken care of this way back during the Clinton years.
When Bill and Hillary wanted to give Americans national healthcare, that would have covered all and every American.
And if that had happened, we wouldn't be in this mess.
And neither would this guy, Luis Lang.
But NO.... America had the best healthcare system in the world. Right?
So who needs national healthcare?
Looks to me like Mr Luis Lang might have rethought his opposition during those Clinton years. Ya think?

Its not that Obamacare is so bad or misguided of an idea.
Its that where we all screwed ourselves up was back in the 1990's.
Because if we had indeed passed national healthcare for all, by now some twenty years later most of the bugs would have been worked out.
And things would be a lot better for everyone.
And we still wouldn't be stuck with this muck called healthcare for profit.
But hey. As Forest Gump said, .....
 

DrPizza

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Damn Obamacare wants to take my money away to pool risk. Oh wait. Now I need insurance. Surely, I can go for years without insurance when I don't need it, but the moment I do need insurance, sign right up for it, right?

The idiot should be thrust into the public's face just as much as Joe the Plumber was.

And... I spy, with my little eye, something beginning with c in his pocket that he shouldn't have if he's diabetic. Smoking makes diabetes much harder to control.
From http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/campaign/tips/diseases/diabetes.html
Smokers with diabetes have higher risks for serious complications, including:
  • Heart and kidney disease
  • Poor blood flow in the legs and feet that can lead to infections, ulcers, and possible amputation (removal of a body part by surgery, such as toes or feet)
  • Retinopathy (an eye disease that can cause blindness)
  • Peripheral neuropathy (damaged nerves to the arms and legs that causes numbness, pain, weakness, and poor coordination)
Aww, you don't say. I'm willing to wager that his doctor told him that he needed to stop smoking. So, here's a guy who doesn't give a shit about the advice he's given, until the shit hits the fan.
 

Moonbeam

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This poor person like many others in his state will have to pay for his CBD. I suspect that his egregious begging full of so much cognitive dissonance is a crafty attempt to get some wealthy conservative to bail him out to save such nut-balls from ridicule.
 
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But he has never bought insurance. Instead, he says, he prided himself on paying his own medical bills.

That worked while he and his wife were relatively healthy. But after 10 days of an unrelenting headache, Lang went to the emergency room on Feb. 25. He says he was told he’d suffered several ministrokes. He ran up $9,000 in bills and exhausted his savings. Meanwhile, his vision worsened, and he can’t work, he says.

That’s when he turned to the Affordable Care Act exchange. Lang learned two things: First, 2015 enrollment had closed earlier that month. And second, because his income has dried up, he earns too little to get a federal subsidy to buy a private policy.
OK...so is the OP trying to argue that without Obamacare, under Republi-care ("Don't get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly and quietly"), that Mr. Lang would have been able to obtain affordable insurance? Seriously? Do you think any insurance company would have wanted to touch him with a ten foot pole, at that point?

Why not blame the Republicans for standing in the way of our nation getting real socialized medicine? Why weren't the Republicans advocating a British-style health care system? Obama at least attempted to something within the realm of what was politically and Constitutionally possible.
 

senseamp

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South Carolina GOP can take care of that guy today by expanding Medicaid. But they don't want to. And the sucker apparently voted for them.
 

MrColin

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If I could help him I would. The f**ker probably still has more money than I do thanks to his years of working for the man. The irony of trying to have his free market dog eat dog capitalist cake and his inability to eat his socialist subsidized healthcare cake earns him some indignance from me though.
 

TheVrolok

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DrPizza said:
Aww, you don't say. I'm willing to wager that his doctor told him that he needed to stop smoking. So, here's a guy who doesn't give a shit about the advice he's given, until the shit hits the fan.

This is nearly the norm in most places. People refuse to take any responsibility for their own health, and then start the finger pointing/blame game when consequences become apparent. Denial is strong.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Mama said "Stupid is as stupid does"

If he was truly responsible he would have purchased health insurance instead of spending the money on a $300k house in South Carolina, I'm sure a house that cost a 3rd of that would have been more than sufficient.
 

Newell Steamer

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Raging moron's rage back fires.

First and foremost, he isn't taking care of himself, at all. You don't just get diabetes over night. Annual blood work doesn't cost anything more than $150 without insurance if you run a barrage of tests. He could have caught this much earlier on. He also smokes.

He has chosen to live an unhealthy lifestyle with no measure of protection and prevention.

And, he voted for a party that does not want to cover him.

He clearly does not want to take care of himself. He clearly does not want someone else to take care of him. So, now he is complaining how no one wants to take care of him?

He got what he wanted.

We're done here.
 

brandonb

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What is amazing to me here is that if he said he as a democrat, the response here would be completely different.

I guess when it comes down to it, the services aren't here to help people. It's to help people on our team.
 

Newell Steamer

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What is amazing to me here is that if he said he as a democrat, the response here would be completely different.

I guess when it comes down to it, the services aren't here to help people. It's to help people on our team.

No - we would crown him king and force you and your future generations to serve him.

:rolleyes:

He refuses to take care of himself.

This wasn't an accident. He wasn't born with a disease. He wasn't attacked by someone else. He did this to himself. No party affiliation will take on the responsibility of purposely screwing yourself over.

Furthermore, this is EXACTLY what he wanted to happen from a political perspective. He voted for this. He voted for not having anyone to take care of him.
 

thraashman

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What is amazing to me here is that if he said he as a democrat, the response here would be completely different.

I guess when it comes down to it, the services aren't here to help people. It's to help people on our team.

If he was a Democrat, he wouldn't have refused to do the intelligent thing for ideological reasons despite the massive harm it caused him. It's like, Obama started a fire in a grill to feed some people, then this guy refused to eat what Obama was serving. Then he went and stuck his hand into the fire and now he's blaming Obama because he's hungry and burnt. It's real fucking hard to feel bad for a guy whose own idiotic ideology has fucked him.
 

glenn1

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If he was a Democrat, he wouldn't have refused to do the intelligent thing for ideological reasons despite the massive harm it caused him. It's like, Obama started a fire in a grill to feed some people, then this guy refused to eat what Obama was serving. Then he went and stuck his hand into the fire and now he's blaming Obama because he's hungry and burnt. It's real fucking hard to feel bad for a guy whose own idiotic ideology has fucked him.

Is the left truly going to allow him to live/die with his bad choices, or bail him out? If the later why do you care the reason for him being irresponsible? Why is it the same people who can readily articulate why to not give money to panhandlers/homeless on the street use a completely different decision process when it comes to a guy like this in the OP?
 

Anubis

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ive always wondered why cant you enroll whenever you want, was is there a "enrolment period"

seems stupid IMO
 

Newell Steamer

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Most of the donations he is getting are from liberals.

This is an untruthitude.

It was already established that liberals are evil and mean spirited.

Or, what money he did receive was actually fake and traceable back to Columbia drugs lords just to cause more trouble for him.