Lost 4x13 and 4x14

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blackdogdeek

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Originally posted by: CptObvious
I thought the finale was OK, but thinking about season 4, the series is ripe for wrapping up after one more season, not two. It seems as though the writers are just stretching it out as best they can.

i read that seasons 4, 5 and 6 are actually the same "length" as 2 seasons, ie - 48 episodes. to stretch it out to 3 more seasons they were going to have 16 episodes per season instead of the traditional 24.
 

UpgradeFailure

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Just a heads up, when Kate got that phone call in her dream, it was backwards talk, and it was jacks dad saying "The island needs you. You have to go back before it's too late"
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Why'd they move the island again? I thought it was initially the threat from the freighter, but once they dealt with the mercs, why the big rush to move it?

I think b/c the island had been found and Widmore would send more bad guys to go after Ben, the need to move the island.

No, I got that, it was just that it was done with some amount of urgency when there didn't really seem to be any rush once the mercs got taken out.
 

imported_Imp

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Ok, I'm finally caught up. I missed the first 40 minutes yesterday, but managed to stream it from the local channel's website now. Episode was pretty damn good. Sucks to see Jin die like that, and lets not forget about the other 20 people still prepping on the deck. Also, Jack seemed like a bit selfish just leaving without Jin. By the looks of it, the copter probably could have still made it if they left later.
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Imp
Ok, I'm finally caught up. I missed the first 40 minutes yesterday, but managed to stream it from the local channel's website now. Episode was pretty damn good. Sucks to see Jin die like that, and lets not forget about the other 20 people still prepping on the deck. Also, Jack seemed like a bit selfish just leaving without Jin. By the looks of it, the copter probably could have still made it if they left later.

Which is why Sun blames Jack for the death of her husband.
 

ChaoZ

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I thought the helicopter scene was funny. They wouldn't have made it even if the island was still there.
 

JEDI

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damn it.. cant watch it on abc.com (fri, 4pm)

it's not loading. :(

must be getting slammed
 

EvilYoda

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x264 releases are out...yummy. Do I have time to watch it again tonight? I'll make time!
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Imp
Ok, I'm finally caught up. I missed the first 40 minutes yesterday, but managed to stream it from the local channel's website now. Episode was pretty damn good. Sucks to see Jin die like that, and lets not forget about the other 20 people still prepping on the deck. Also, Jack seemed like a bit selfish just leaving without Jin. By the looks of it, the copter probably could have still made it if they left later.

Don't mourn anyone. It's a time-traveling show with ghosts. There is no real death.
 
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Originally posted by: Raiden256
I'm wondering... Is it possible that the Black Rock lies in the location it does now because the Island appeared underneath it during a previous move?

Interesting theory!
 
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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: mattlear
Can't tell if someone just edited wikipedia, but

Jeremy Bentham Wikipedia entry

Check out the first sentence under "Life". Also, on the right, check out influencers...

For comparison's sake:
John Locke Wikipedia entry

I wonder how the two philosophers are related in real-life... what common thread they have for the LOST writers to join them into a single character...

-Matt

No one seems to have taken notice of my previous post but wikipedia is lacking in one area. HE WAS ALSO AN ADVOCATE OF BIRTH CONTROL! No one sees the Lsot tie in?

were does it say that?

I'm the cash symbol. It won't take you that long.
 
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Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
Originally posted by: CptObvious
I thought the finale was OK, but thinking about season 4, the series is ripe for wrapping up after one more season, not two. It seems as though the writers are just stretching it out as best they can.

i read that seasons 4, 5 and 6 are actually the same "length" as 2 seasons, ie - 48 episodes. to stretch it out to 3 more seasons they were going to have 16 episodes per season instead of the traditional 24.

Only reason in my mind:
More sales form DVD box sets.

I agree with everyone else. One more season and that should do it. THE END. IT is getting old and the love stories suck. Sorry, they do. I hope I still have hte motiviation to wathc next season.
 
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Why'd they move the island again? I thought it was initially the threat from the freighter, but once they dealt with the mercs, why the big rush to move it?

I think b/c the island had been found and Widmore would send more bad guys to go after Ben, the need to move the island.

No, I got that, it was just that it was done with some amount of urgency when there didn't really seem to be any rush once the mercs got taken out.

They moved it because Jacob said to do so. Seeing what Ben thinks of Jacob, it is the kind of thing that needs to be done ASAP.

So, to know the answer, you need to know who Jacob is. So there is no answer .... yet.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Why'd they move the island again? I thought it was initially the threat from the freighter, but once they dealt with the mercs, why the big rush to move it?

I think b/c the island had been found and Widmore would send more bad guys to go after Ben, the need to move the island.

No, I got that, it was just that it was done with some amount of urgency when there didn't really seem to be any rush once the mercs got taken out.

They moved it because Jacob said to do so. Seeing what Ben thinks of Jacob, it is the kind of thing that needs to be done ASAP.

So, to know the answer, you need to know who Jacob is. So there is no answer .... yet.

Mebbe he's Lt. Daniels from The Wire (tall skinny black guy) who keeps popping up and who we now know Locke owes a favor
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Why'd they move the island again? I thought it was initially the threat from the freighter, but once they dealt with the mercs, why the big rush to move it?

I think b/c the island had been found and Widmore would send more bad guys to go after Ben, the need to move the island.

No, I got that, it was just that it was done with some amount of urgency when there didn't really seem to be any rush once the mercs got taken out.

They moved it because Jacob said to do so. Seeing what Ben thinks of Jacob, it is the kind of thing that needs to be done ASAP.

So, to know the answer, you need to know who Jacob is. So there is no answer .... yet.

Mebbe he's Lt. Daniels from The Wire (tall skinny black guy) who keeps popping up and who we now know Locke owes a favor

there is a good chance that may be true. He seems to orchestrate everything so that things happen the way they do. Him being Jacob would just be fitting in that what he wants done ultimately is always done on the island.

So why there is a character like Jacob, and why he has so much power on the island, and even why he is there to begin with and if there is a reason for him wanting things to go the way to do... these are questions that really drive the central plot of the show, imho. Everything else really falls into apart of the island and why the island is the way it is. Time travel, electromagnetism, cloning, smoke monster, the island's healing properties... all other things I want to know more about.

Personally, I'm happy the show has two more 'seasons' left, even though its only like 1.5 seasons. I don't want it to be over next year, it gives me a good show to watch through my last two years of school, although honestly, as long as they could keep introducing things, I would likely watch it for however long new episodes came out. I never lost interest even during the beginning of Season 3 when nothing was being answered and episodes were kind of flat in the scheme of things. I just like watching the characters interact with each other, and some of the more 'boring' episodes actually provide much needed time with the characters to let them grow a bit.

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n7

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Amazing.

I almost gave up watching this show in the second & then third season due to the retarded amount of meaningless filler episodes.

But this fourth season has been unreal.

 

TripleAAA

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Wow, for some reason I thought that was the final final FINAL episode so I'm glad to see there are two more seasons.

Curious to see how Walt ties into all this....

Remember when Sawyer was locked in the bear cage and saw the flight attendant live and well amongst the "others". What's up with that too? That's been bugging me ever since.
 

Delita

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I have a feeling Jin is still alive and for some reason I think that when they all take Locke back to the island he might come back as well.
 

OrByte

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OK didnt we see Jin in a flash forward earlier this season, the one where he was running around with the big teddy bear?

I think "the others" pick him up as well as Daniel and the survivors that were on the way to the boat.

I dont' think freckles seeing claire in her dream is significant since it was her dream and normally the "missing" or "dead" people can just pop up out of nowhere. What was significant was the phone call and it sounded like sawyers voice. Is there a link anywhere to the audio yet?

 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: OrByte
OK didnt we see Jin in a flash forward earlier this season, the one where he was running around with the big teddy bear?

I think "the others" pick him up as well as Daniel and the survivors that were on the way to the boat.

I dont' think freckles seeing claire in her dream is significant since it was her dream and normally the "missing" or "dead" people can just pop up out of nowhere. What was significant was the phone call and it sounded like sawyers voice. Is there a link anywhere to the audio yet?

Jin's "flash forward" was actually a flash back that coincided with Sun's flash forward.
 

Foxery

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Eesh, you guys didn't pay very much attention.

-John Locke is named after a philosopher. Jeremy Bentham was a philosopher. It was just a fake name, since there are supposed to be no more survivors. It was an obscure clue by the writers as to who they were talking about. There's no further "reading inbetween the lines" here.

-Jin is dead. This was made clear when Sun had her baby.

-Yes, the island time traveled. That was the whole point of the rabbit in the video. Jacob/Ben moved it so it will be impossible for Whitmore to find again.

-After Ben turned that large lever, he somehow popped into the middle of some Middle Eastern desert as seen in the previous episode. He stood up in the sand, disoriented, wearing a winter coat, with a bleeding arm.

-I am a consumer whore, and I can't wait for the next season :p
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Foxery
Eesh, you guys didn't pay very much attention.

-John Locke is named after a philosopher. Jeremy Bentham was a philosopher. It was just a fake name, since there are supposed to be no more survivors. It was an obscure clue by the writers as to who they were talking about. There's no further "reading inbetween the lines" here.

-Jin is dead. This was made clear when Sun had her baby.

-Yes, the island time traveled. That was the whole point of the rabbit in the video. Jacob/Ben moved it so it will be impossible for Whitmore to find again.

-After Ben turned that large lever, he somehow popped into the middle of some Middle Eastern desert as seen in the previous episode. He stood up in the sand, disoriented, wearing a winter coat, with a bleeding arm.

-I am a consumer whore, and I can't wait for the next season :p

you should know nothing in Lost is as clear as it may seem at first
this hearkens back to the episode its discovered that Hurley won the lottery with those numbers, and it all was made out to seem like the plane crashing was because of hurley's bad luck.

Bentham is a philosopher, yes, as is John Locke. However, that's not the end of the connections. They are ties between the two are well... they worked together or something...
but the writings of the philosophers are important in the show. What Bentham wrote about are pretty huge themes covered in the structure of the show, as are Locke's.

but how Locke is dead and why he's back Stateside is the big question that comes from that scene.

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Kev

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Everyone seems to think that Sun blames Jack for Jin's death. I think Locke came and talked to her, and told her about how Ben stabbed that guy causing the boat to explode, so she blames Ben, which is why she has decided to work with Widmore.