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Accipiter22

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I'm betting money they are building up to something big for the end of the season concerning the others....as in another character dying but maybe getting Walt back.....maybe just finding out about the others in general

haha apparently the writers sucked at least one person in......honestly though, having walt kidnapped is just a fake plot line...it doesn't advance anything if they get walt back. All that does is put them back to where they were at the end of season 1...
 

iamme

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every episode thread has people whining about the show. dude, stop watching it then. if you think it's so ridiculous or dumb, change the channel.

anyways, i'm enjoying the ride as we go. the back stories really make the show. the mystery that was revealed of Ecko was great to watch, imo.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: iamme
the mystery that was revealed of Ecko was great to watch, imo.

I loved seeing him pick up Charlie like a ragdoll :D

i thought he was holding up Charlie by the neck, off the ground...but Charlie didn't seem to be choking or straining.

btw, what happened to the black smoke/monster after it and Mr. Ecko were face to face? the TV went crazy and when it came back on, it was commericial. did it just evaporate? zoom away?
 

Furyline

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: iamme
the mystery that was revealed of Ecko was great to watch, imo.

I loved seeing him pick up Charlie like a ragdoll :D

i thought he was holding up Charlie by the neck, off the ground...but Charlie didn't seem to be choking or straining.

btw, what happened to the black smoke/monster after it and Mr. Ecko were face to face? the TV went crazy and when it came back on, it was commericial. did it just evaporate? zoom away?

It zoomed away :confused:
 

mAdD INDIAN

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The images in the smoke showed Ecko's past. It contained scenes of him shooting the elderly person, looking at his reflection, etc...

You can find the images here: Scroll down till you see the screen captures

The reason the smoke "backed" away was because it realized that Ecko was stronger than it. See the smoke is hte way the island "traps" the survivors. It contains their fears and past and makes them confront it. Since Ecko was at peace with himself, he was able to stand up to it...so the smoke retreated.

If you remember the first season, the same thing happened with Locke. He confronted it, and so he never got "taken" by it nor was he scared of it. He has accepted his past. I think the smoke is the reason that Jack saw visions of his father (in the first season) and Kate seeing the black horse (this season).

The smoke/monsters is a mechanism that the island uses to "test" the survivors I guess. Remember, ALL of them have had a difficult past.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The images in the smoke showed Ecko's past. It contained scenes of him shooting the elderly person, looking at his reflection, etc...

You can find the images here: Scroll down till you see the screen captures

The reason the smoke "backed" away was because it realized that Ecko was stronger than it. See the smoke is hte way the island "traps" the survivors. It contains their fears and past and makes them confront it. Since Ecko was at peace with himself, he was able to stand up to it...so the smoke retreat.

If you remember the first season, the same thing happened with Locke. He confronted it, and so he never got "taken" by it nor was he scared of it. He has accepted his past. I think the smoke is the reason that Jack saw visions of his father (in the first season) and Kate seeing the black horse (this season).

The smoke/monsters is a mechanism that the island uses to "test" the survivors I guess. After all, ALL of them have had a difficult past.

good stuff, thanks :)

they might have hinted at that when Mr. Eko said, "i was not afraid" when Charlie was wondering why he hadn't run.
 

TechnoPro

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The images in the smoke showed Ecko's past. It contained scenes of him shooting the elderly person, looking at his reflection, etc...

You can find the images here: Scroll down till you see the screen captures

The reason the smoke "backed" away was because it realized that Ecko was stronger than it. See the smoke is hte way the island "traps" the survivors. It contains their fears and past and makes them confront it. Since Ecko was at peace with himself, he was able to stand up to it...so the smoke retreated.

If you remember the first season, the same thing happened with Locke. He confronted it, and so he never got "taken" by it nor was he scared of it. He has accepted his past. I think the smoke is the reason that Jack saw visions of his father (in the first season) and Kate seeing the black horse (this season).

The smoke/monsters is a mechanism that the island uses to "test" the survivors I guess. Remember, ALL of them have had a difficult past.

What's your take on the episode when the smoke did scare Locke? Was it a case of losing his cool or having self-doubt?
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The images in the smoke showed Ecko's past. It contained scenes of him shooting the elderly person, looking at his reflection, etc...

You can find the images here: Scroll down till you see the screen captures

The reason the smoke "backed" away was because it realized that Ecko was stronger than it. See the smoke is hte way the island "traps" the survivors. It contains their fears and past and makes them confront it. Since Ecko was at peace with himself, he was able to stand up to it...so the smoke retreated.

If you remember the first season, the same thing happened with Locke. He confronted it, and so he never got "taken" by it nor was he scared of it. He has accepted his past. I think the smoke is the reason that Jack saw visions of his father (in the first season) and Kate seeing the black horse (this season).

The smoke/monsters is a mechanism that the island uses to "test" the survivors I guess. Remember, ALL of them have had a difficult past.

What's your take on the episode when the smoke did scare Locke? Was it a case of losing his cool or having self-doubt?


that was the first time he encountered the smoke right? I think he was scared initially, but after that he realized what his role was on the island and he accepted it. That is why he wasn't eager to escape nor was he panicked. He knew it was his destiny, and since then, he hasn't really been scared about anything, cautious yes, but not scared.
 

Accipiter22

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The images in the smoke showed Ecko's past. It contained scenes of him shooting the elderly person, looking at his reflection, etc...

You can find the images here: Scroll down till you see the screen captures

The reason the smoke "backed" away was because it realized that Ecko was stronger than it. See the smoke is hte way the island "traps" the survivors. It contains their fears and past and makes them confront it. Since Ecko was at peace with himself, he was able to stand up to it...so the smoke retreated.

If you remember the first season, the same thing happened with Locke. He confronted it, and so he never got "taken" by it nor was he scared of it. He has accepted his past. I think the smoke is the reason that Jack saw visions of his father (in the first season) and Kate seeing the black horse (this season).

The smoke/monsters is a mechanism that the island uses to "test" the survivors I guess. Remember, ALL of them have had a difficult past.

What's your take on the episode when the smoke did scare Locke? Was it a case of losing his cool or having self-doubt?


that was the first time he encountered the smoke right? I think he was scared initially, but after that he realized what his role was on the island and he accepted it. That is why he wasn't eager to escape nor was he panicked. He knew it was his destiny, and since then, he hasn't really been scared about anything, cautious yes, but not scared.

word.
 

Tommouse

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I enjoyed the episode as well.

I think the writers might not have a plan to go with the series I think that each episode is well written. Can't wait for more :)
 

Udel

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Originally posted by: LoKe
The season finale is going to be such a let down.

Could you atleast condense your Lost bashing into one insightful post next time?

Another very well done episode. There is alot more to this show then special effects people. You can watch Lost on many different levels.
 

kitkit201

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yeah, awesome episode.. :) So did anyone catch what the last words from "WALT" were from the computer when Michael asked him where he was?
 

frankgomez75

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
People are talking about flashes of pictures in the smoke, but I just stepped through it frame by frame and I don't see anything.. maybe my TV doesn't display enough shades of black to show it.

HDTV FTW! :)
My gf who has extremely poor vision saw it too... if you have SDTV it may have been hard to see it... even at 720P I saw it clearly, but you had better not blinked cuz it did happen kinda fast (the flashes of the ppl in the smoke that is).

If you do have HDTV and captured it in HD than perhaps your TV needs to be calibrated using something like AVIA calibrating DVD or DVE's calibration DVD... both fairly inexpensive and worth the time to use it for both your TV and A/V equipment. ;)


Anyways... this episode rocked. I love Eko's background. He's one of my favorite characters... doesn't speak much... but when he does you get the point! :)
The few words he speaks... speaks volumes.
 

ntdz

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I definetly saw pictures in the smoke too...I was watching on HDTV.

I thought the episode was so-so...
 

BMdoobieW

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I didn't see the images in the smoke, so thanks for the link to the screen shots and for the explanation.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I'm betting money they are building up to something big for the end of the season concerning the others....as in another character dying but maybe getting Walt back.....maybe just finding out about the others in general

haha apparently the writers sucked at least one person in......honestly though, having walt kidnapped is just a fake plot line...it doesn't advance anything if they get walt back. All that does is put them back to where they were at the end of season 1...

WHy would you think it is a fake plot line? Eko found a missing portion of the movie and it said do not use the computer for anything other than entering the code. And that is what Walt's dad is doing.
 

Hav0k99

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Next week looks pretty killer...today's was pretty tame by Lost standards.

I thought it was easily the best episode of this season....every other episode was them trapsing through the jungle trying to get home with no real plot progress.

But honestly the cloud of smoke thing....it's like they're crossing over from believable fiction and some sort of Earthly bizarre explanation for the island into the realm of extreme fantasy......I hope that black smoke thing has some sort of explanation that's not too outlandish.....like maybe the machine noises are some sort of system to produce the smoke...but the people in it...that was just freaky.



Note: Is anyone else seeing that the 'mysteries' on the Island aren't part of some plan the writers have? Everyone gets that they're just making this stuff up as they go along with no real direction, that's why nothing ever gets solved or anything like that...not because of plot development, but because the writers don't have a fvcking clue where to go with the show


This is totaly BS. It's obvious this show is slow paced. I mean come on it's in its 2nd season. I don't doubt the writers have alot material that yet has to be seen. People kick and screen because plots get confusing and complicated. They want it all to make sense. But what is the fun of that when there's no end of the show in sight. I would at least hold off to your ridiculous comments until the season finale.

 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: frankgomez75Anyways... this episode rocked. I love Eko's background. He's one of my favorite characters... doesn't speak much... but when he does you get the point! :)
The few words he speaks... speaks volumes.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

~Theodore Roosevelt
 

SaltBoy

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I don't think anybody's mentioned this, but Eko looked pretty dang cool with the cornrows. I wonder if the actor (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) had to grow a fro or if they used something else, because I doubt that he could have gotten cornrows with the amount of hair he currently has on.

<-- Knows very little about hair styling for black people.