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Looks like the Da Vinci Code finally struck a nerve

Fingolfin269

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If I say what I would like to say about that guy then I will surely go to hell.

It's just a book.
 

rh71

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It's a good thing I don't read!

Cliffs ? (literally)

EDIT>>> Oh it's religious ? Fuhget that.
 

ThePresence

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I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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The Vatican should have been used as nuclear testing grounds long ago already. The whole of Italy for that matter.
 

ATLien247

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
If I say what I would like to say about that guy then I will surely go to hell.

It's just a book.

And a book of fiction at that! :roll:
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You know what fiction is, right?
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You know what fiction is, right?

Yes. But he bases it on "facts". The so-called facts that he uses in this work of fiction is fiction itself.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p
 
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It's amazing how many people suddenly think they are masters of spiritual secrets, history, or even art appreciation after reading that book. It's the Wal-Mart of conspiracy novels, catering to the lowest common denominator. Read Foucault's Pendulum instead.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You know what fiction is, right?

Yes. But he bases it on "facts". The so-called facts that he uses in this work of fiction is fiction itself.

The so-called facts that the Vatican uses in their religion is fiction itself. Not much difference between the two.
 

CptObvious

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I resisted reading it for all this time, but now I'll have to just to see what the fuss is about :p
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: CptObvious
I resisted reading it for all this time, but now I'll have to just to see what the fuss is about :p

I'll give you my hardcover copy for free.
PM your info to me.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Of course he researched his subject and then purposely drew some false conclusions in order to create a story. If he followed the Bible completely what would be the point in the book?

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Of course he researched his subject and then purposely drew some false conclusions in order to create a story. If he followed the Bible completely what would be the point in the book?

It's not that he drew false conclusions, his basic understanding of the religious principals were flawed. But hey, enjoy the book! I know I did.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Also, what would Judaism have to do with the Da Vinci Code? Its about Catholicism. It doesn't need to go in depth about Judaism.
 

MrNutz

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You know what fiction is, right?

Yes. But he bases it on "facts". The so-called facts that he uses in this work of fiction is fiction itself.
I just can't believe they are making a movie... :(
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Of course he researched his subject and then purposely drew some false conclusions in order to create a story. If he followed the Bible completely what would be the point in the book?

It's not that he drew false conclusions, his basic understanding of the religious principals were flawed. But hey, enjoy the book! I know I did.

You sound just like my overly religious friends who read this book and could not read it as fiction. Once the word JESUS is invoked it becomes a religious crusade to discredit the author as much as possible.

But hey, at least scientists recently uncovered 'hobbits' so there is still a chance that Tolkien could have been right!

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Also, what would Judaism have to do with the Da Vinci Code? Its about Catholicism. It doesn't need to go in depth about Judaism.
There are times he discusses ancient Jewish customs and rites which are complete fabrications. Also, when he talks about the Dead Sea scrolls, he displays his ignorance again. I don't want to get in to an in-depth discussion about it.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Of course he researched his subject and then purposely drew some false conclusions in order to create a story. If he followed the Bible completely what would be the point in the book?

It's not that he drew false conclusions, his basic understanding of the religious principals were flawed. But hey, enjoy the book! I know I did.

You sound just like my overly religious friends who read this book and could not read it as fiction. Once the word JESUS is invoked it becomes a religious crusade to discredit the author as much as possible.

But hey, at least scientists recently uncovered 'hobbits' so there is still a chance that Tolkien could have been right!
I read it as fiction, I said I enjoyed it. I did find it ignorant though. When I read The Hobbit it's understood that it's a complete fabrication. I haven't run into any hobbits or cavetrolls recently, have you? I met a Jew AND a Christian yesterday! Hmmm...
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Also, what would Judaism have to do with the Da Vinci Code? Its about Catholicism. It doesn't need to go in depth about Judaism.
There are times he discusses ancient Jewish customs and rites which are complete fabrications. Also, when he talks about the Dead Sea scrolls, he displays his ignorance again. I don't want to get in to an in-depth discussion about it.

Why are you so certain that he is ignorant? Have you never told a story and changed some of the facts in order to make the story more enjoyable? This guy is not out to change the landscape of the Christian faith so I don't understand the problem here. Anyone with an internet connection can figure out that most of the stuff in that book is completely fictional. Just remember there is a distinct difference between ignorance and fabrication.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I read the book. While it's an entertaining story, I found it extremely ignorant of even a basic understanding of Judaism. I attended an Orthodox Rabbincal seminary for 7 years, so I know a thing or two about it. Dan Brown doesn't have a clue. While I'm not as well versed in Christianity and it's dogma, it's safe to assume that he's just as ignorant.

You are just as bad as the Cardinal. It is a freaking book of fiction. :p

I understand that. But most writers (yes, even FICTIOn writers) research their subject matter beforehand. Would I write a novel on the people of Madagascar and describe their customs in detail if I don't have a clue about them? I think that would be a bit strange. But hey, I thought the book was a fun story. Ignorant, but entertaining.

Of course he researched his subject and then purposely drew some false conclusions in order to create a story. If he followed the Bible completely what would be the point in the book?

It's not that he drew false conclusions, his basic understanding of the religious principals were flawed. But hey, enjoy the book! I know I did.

You sound just like my overly religious friends who read this book and could not read it as fiction. Once the word JESUS is invoked it becomes a religious crusade to discredit the author as much as possible.

But hey, at least scientists recently uncovered 'hobbits' so there is still a chance that Tolkien could have been right!
I read it as fiction, I said I enjoyed it. I did find it ignorant though. When I read The Hobbit it's understood that it's a complete fabrication. I haven't run into any hobbits or cavetrolls recently, have you? I met a Jew AND a Christian yesterday! Hmmm...

Actually scientists recently uncovered what appeared to be a 'hobbit-like' creature. Google. ;)