LOL @NY

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Bignate603
No way in hell this will pass. I almost wonder if he's doing this to make people freak out, get angry and when they're all pissed he'll 'compromise' to what he originally wanted. People will think they won and he'll get what he wants.

Bagnate,

You "get it". That's exactly what it is. It's called negotiating 101 and I'm glad to see somebody understands it.

Picture it as he is a used car saleman. "I'll sell you this used civic for 30,000 dollars"
Buyer - "WTF! rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble!"
Seller - "Oh, I see you drive a hard bargain! I've got to keep the lights on in this place so don't screw me here, how about 25,000 dollars?"
Buyer - "rabble"
Seller - "wow, you are really screwing me here. But I've worked really hard and can give you this used civic for 23,000 dollars."
Buyer - "OK!"

It's called "dropping the ball" - we covered basic manipulation techniques in psychology. It's quite interesting, really.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Quintox
Glad I'm in the South

Upper Midwest here, and agreed on your principle.

 

[Parasitic]

Thank goodness I'm moving out of this place in two months.

 

[WingZero94]

Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL democrats.

 

[Nerva]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Paterson is out of his fucking mind.

i blame SNL, this is vengeance. hehe

but seriously, some of these taxes are insane. you want to promote consumption, not slowing it down by pissing people off with taxes.

and yes, econ 101 shows taxes levied on sellers or the buyers are both big fucking epic fails.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: Ns1
Higher taxes on wine, beer and flavored malt beverages. He would also impose an 18% tax on non-nutritional drinks like soda.

I would move out of the state just for that one.

That's the plan :thumbsup:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Parasitic
Thank goodness I'm moving out of this place in two months.

Where are you going?

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: Ns1
Higher taxes on wine, beer and flavored malt beverages. He would also impose an 18% tax on non-nutritional drinks like soda.

I would move out of the state just for that one.

That's the plan :thumbsup:

Go back to the cesspool troll.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL democrats.

..they're a self punishing self loathing lot. They'll pay it like all the other taxes they pay in Nut York.

 

[ranmaniac]

I guess "Escape from New York" part II is in the making.

To quote Snake Plissken:

"Your rules are really beginning to annoy me."

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL democrats.

..they're a self punishing self loathing lot. They'll pay it like all the other taxes they pay in Nut York.

:laugh:
Ann Coulter, is that you?

You forgot something.
ECO-KOOK5 OMGZ!!!!!!

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Legendary,

Yes, what you bolded is the most important part and still gets a "LOL! Democrats" response.

In a time of dramatically shortened revenue, spending is STILL increased. Every point in your cuts gets a "LOL! Democrats" response because it is very funny, very predictable.

So what is his answer?
1) Increase spending
2) Increase taxes
3) Take away from crime fighting

LOL democrats!

How about this Mr. Governor? STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY! Isn't this the same dumb state that has the transfat tax or ban?

Those fancy pants republicans never did shit for reducing spending in the state when they had control of half the legislature and the governor's seat.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: spidey07
Legendary,

Yes, what you bolded is the most important part and still gets a "LOL! Democrats" response.

In a time of dramatically shortened revenue, spending is STILL increased. Every point in your cuts gets a "LOL! Democrats" response because it is very funny, very predictable.

So what is his answer?
1) Increase spending
2) Increase taxes
3) Take away from crime fighting

LOL democrats!

How about this Mr. Governor? STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY! Isn't this the same dumb state that has the transfat tax or ban?

Those fancy pants republicans never did shit for reducing spending in the state when they had control of half the legislature and the governor's seat.

..why should they?? if they can purge liberals of their money, why not??

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: spidey07
Legendary,

Yes, what you bolded is the most important part and still gets a "LOL! Democrats" response.

In a time of dramatically shortened revenue, spending is STILL increased. Every point in your cuts gets a "LOL! Democrats" response because it is very funny, very predictable.

So what is his answer?
1) Increase spending
2) Increase taxes
3) Take away from crime fighting

LOL democrats!

How about this Mr. Governor? STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY! Isn't this the same dumb state that has the transfat tax or ban?

1) You have to understand, going from a inflation rate+ budget increase every year to going to a 0.5% budget increase is essentially a budget cut. Budgets increase every year for nearly every state, simply because the same amount of money is worth less.

2) How else do you bridge a deficit gap? I can't name a state that has enacted massive budget cuts with no new taxes to fix a deficit gap. Can you?

3) Where is cutting spending on crime fighting mentioned? Closing prisons is absolutely not the same thing.


My main point is that typifying Paterson's budget as standard 'LOL Democrats' is short sighted and unfair. Every article I have read on this except New York papers only mentions the increase in taxes. Such nonsense.

California under Ronald Regan.

 

[vshah]

moving there next year....not good

 

[The Boston Dangler]

thank goodness massachusetts is right next to new york - that way, we don't look like as big a douche.

 

[Ballatician]

It really bothers me when people are overly attached to a particular political party and find any reason to generalize and insult the opponents. Grow a mind and use it, stop drinking your party kool-aid.

Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL democrats.

Indeed.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: spidey07
Legendary,

Yes, what you bolded is the most important part and still gets a "LOL! Democrats" response.

In a time of dramatically shortened revenue, spending is STILL increased. Every point in your cuts gets a "LOL! Democrats" response because it is very funny, very predictable.

So what is his answer?
1) Increase spending
2) Increase taxes
3) Take away from crime fighting

LOL democrats!

How about this Mr. Governor? STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY! Isn't this the same dumb state that has the transfat tax or ban?

1) You have to understand, going from a inflation rate+ budget increase every year to going to a 0.5% budget increase is essentially a budget cut. Budgets increase every year for nearly every state, simply because the same amount of money is worth less.

2) How else do you bridge a deficit gap? I can't name a state that has enacted massive budget cuts with no new taxes to fix a deficit gap. Can you?

3) Where is cutting spending on crime fighting mentioned? Closing prisons is absolutely not the same thing.


My main point is that typifying Paterson's budget as standard 'LOL Democrats' is short sighted and unfair. Every article I have read on this except New York papers only mentions the increase in taxes. Such nonsense.

California under Ronald Regan.

Only it's not true. Reagan had the largest tax increase ever in California at the time.

Text

In March, along with a new budget, Reagan sent the Legislature a wide-ranging menu of proposed tax increases worth $946 million. It was the largest tax increase ever sought by a U.S. governor and four times as large as Brown's previous record in 1959. By the time the bill cleared the state Senate, the total was $1 billion -- more than $6 billion in 2008 dollars.
The tax bill might have been the work of a New Deal Democrat: It changed California's revenue-raising structure from a regressive system to a progressive one. During Reagan's administration, with most of the changes coming in the 1967 tax bill, taxes on corporations nearly doubled, from 5.5% to 9%. The tax on banks went from 9.5% to 13%. The maximum on personal income taxes increased from 7% to 11%. Both Unruh and Deukmejian said they suspected that a Democratic governor -- and indeed many Republican governors -- would never have been able to get such a thing approved. "It was sort of like [Richard] Nixon going to China," Deukmejian said.


What is it with righties? They want to go back to time that never was.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: BW86
I just bought something from Amazon and didn't pay taxes for it. hmm.

I do...

Originally posted by: RedArmy
Overall, the price for tuition here at SUNY Binghamton will be up 1000 dollars next semester compared to now.

Ooo another STNY person.

 

[Zee]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Paterson is out of his fucking mind.

The guy is fucking incompetent and should never have been governor. this guarantees a republican governor again for years to come.

INVESTIGATE THE MTA YOU FOOL! WHERE'S THE BILLIONS GOING AND HOW CAN THEY BE GIVING THEMSELVES A RAISE IN APRIL?

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH SPENDING MILLIONS CHANGING THE NAME OF THE GODDAMN TRIBOROUGH BRIDGE?!

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH SPENDING MILLIONS AS WELL AS INCREASE CONGESTION AND DECREASE PARKLING SPACES FOR TO CHANGE A BUNCH OF FUCKING STREETS IN THE CITY TO PAINT SOME FUCKING BICYCLE LANES!?!?

this country, every aspect of it, needs a dictator. A dictator needs to come in for 10 years, clean the fucking house and set everything straight.

 

[moshquerade]

Don't LOL @ NY. We are a suffering people living in Tax Hell.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: Farang
Hasn't the luxury tax proven to be a failure.. I thought I learned this in econ 101

In what way, in discouraging consumption or in helping fill state coffers?

 

[Aikouka]

Nerds will be hit hard in the Bawls tax.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Babbles
Instead of fixing the spending problems, it seems their only solution is more taxes. Feel bad for people living in New York.

Democrat mentality -- never decrease spending, just increase taxes to bring in more money to waste. Don't give me this "increasing spending less than inflation is 'effectively' a decrease" BS. What the need is a real spending reduction. Period.

Even with the economy going to hell and a huuuuuge deficit, NY manages to increase spending. Unbelievable. It's time they actually decrease spending by 20% or so -- simply take 20% out of the budget, let the legislature fight over where the cuts come from.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Need to get Paterson out of office. Just keep raising spending and taxes, don't they see how much trouble we're having as it is.