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LOL Boehner's Plan Won't Even Pass in the Republican-Controlled House

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"What we're trying to do is save the world from the Republican budget. We're trying to save life on this planet as we know it today." - Nancy Pelosi

Really?
 
So the new Boehner plan is to make the bill even more unpassable by keeping a smaller debt ceiling increase than the president asked for, and only giving up the rest of the money after a consitutional blanced budget amendment.

He just wants any bill that he can say the repubs voted for come election time, despite knowing it is unreasonable and will not pass. Because what we really need is for this whole mess to play out again, except at election time and with a consitutional amendment as a requirement.
 
Turin39789 said:
So the new Boehner plan is to make the bill even more unpassable by keeping a smaller debt ceiling increase than the president asked for, and only giving up the rest of the money after a consitutional blanced budget amendment.

He just wants any bill that he can say the repubs voted for come election time, despite knowing it is unreasonable and will not pass. Because what we really need is for this whole mess to play out again, except at election time and with a consitutional amendment as a requirement.
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I don't know why he wasted ten days and prolonged market uncertainty for this. They voted for their lame Cut Cap Balance nonsense already. This is same thing just lamer.
 
tweaker2 said:
Sequel: Boehner and the remnant repub leadership comes out of hiding after Boston Tea Party Deux and proclaims a new mandate by the people to cut taxes and institute even more corporate welfare to create jobs and balance the budget thus spawning the Tea Lynching Mob, where Rush Limbaugh gets elected to the House and takes the leadership. Bachmann takes over the repub Senate and Palin takes over the RNC promising to lead her party and the nation into a new era of prosperity.

A New Red Dawn has risen. "Resistance is futile" says Ran Paul. "The Dems will be assimilated". :awe:
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LOL. The famous WWII general Yamamoto described the US as a "sleeping giant". When it comes to issues like this the silent majority will put up with a lot of crap, but you don't want to see them when they finally loose their temper.
 
senseamp said:
I don't know why he wasted ten days and prolonged market uncertainty for this. They voted for their lame Cut Cap Balance nonsense already. This is same thing just lamer.
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I'm sure this wasn't his intent. This vote now is to just avoid the further embarrassment of not being able to bring about a passable bill at all. The Republican party is fractured and out of control. If there was any doubt, the lunatics really are running the asylum now. The only hope left is that there enough sane Republicans willing to vote along with Dems to get something enactable passed.
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
I'm sure this wasn't his intent. This vote now is to just avoid the further embarrassment of not being able to bring about a passable bill at all. The Republican party is fractured and out of control. If there was any doubt, the lunatics really are running the asylum now. The only hope left is that there enough sane Republicans willing to vote along with Dems to get something enactable passed.
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Six and one half dozen of the other. If we default on the loan the results could be unpredictable. If we keep going the way we are the results will not be pretty. Either way the system is clearly broken and until the American people demand change it won't happen.
 
I guess Boehner has gone down in popularity ever since he stopped spray-tanning, maybe he could get his bill through if he put some more on again
 
TalonStrike said:
Boehner's Plan Won't Even Pass in the Republican-Controlled House

It needs 216 votes to pass. Boehner only has 214 votes and he's scrambling at the last moment trying to get those 2 extra votes before the bill is voted on today. LOL @ Boehner for thinking that it could pass in the Senate when the Tea Party nuts in the House won't vote for it.
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He'll get it passed but this whole fiasco has made him look like the ASS he truly is.
 
From listening to CNN, looks like they have changed the wording to get more votes. The original had that a balanced budget amendment had to be voted on before the next debt ceiling was raised. The new language states that a balanced budget amendment has be "passed" to raise the debt ceiling.

Not a chance that this will get by the Senate, much less Obama's office, in this form.
 
Although Sportage touched on it, Dick Army and his ilk have created a Frankenstein Monster called the tea party. As Dick Army searched and found in the lowest intellectual levels of the American people, a group of people who thought they could dress up in 1776 period costume, and resurrect slogans their base could rally around. Then they would hurl insults at Democrats, and thereafter go away.

But when 93 of them got their asses elected in 11/2010, they found themselves in control of the 435 member US house of Representatives. Even if they only were less than 21.38% of that body. Add in the 100 Senators and that percentage becomes 17.38% of the US legislative branch.

Yet the tea party that is just a tiny part of the US legislative branch and has no experience governing claim that their way is the only way.

And now weeping John has two choices. (1) He can reach out to reasonable republicans and democrats and tell the tea party to fuck themselves, come up with a plan that will pass the house, and the US Senate, and avert a US government default. (2) Or weeping John Boehner can go down in US history as the most idiotic squeaker of the House in history, and also the author of the destruction of the GOP.

Boehner now has only two days and change to decide, as events prove Boehner has lost all control and vision. As he becomes somewhat a man best cast in a Greek Tragedy.
 
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MomentsofSanity said:
How disingenuous. Favored meme of the GOP but completely ridiculous nonetheless.

What about the bipartisan gang if six plan? You know, the one Standard and Poors gave a AAA rating safe to as well. Why doesn't the GOP support that one and table it since it cuts the most and enjoys bipartisan Senate support as well as the WH giving it better odds of passage?
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I don't think that plan ever had a chance.

It's notably absent of key details. http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/172245-gang-of-six-plan-punts-on-key-details

It looks like it cut taxes for corporations and wealthy taxpayers (cut the top rate and abolished the AMT), yet raised taxes on middle and lower class.

It also called for SS reform but doesn't say how. It calls for a committee to figure it out, but then if that solution doesn't get 60 Senate votes the ENTIRE bill is null and void.

It calls for heavy cuts, but say where, no details.

If it actually cut taxes for corporations and the wealthy, I can't see Dems voting for it. If it raised them on middle class, I can't see TEA party types voting for it.

I can't see where it would actually get much support from either side.

As far as Boehner's bill, not sure I care given it won't stop a credit downgrade.

Fern
 
Fern said:
I don't think that plan ever had a chance.

It's notably absent of key details. http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/172245-gang-of-six-plan-punts-on-key-details

It looks like it cut taxes for corporations and wealthy taxpayers (cut the top rate and abolished the AMT), yet raised taxes on middle and lower class.

It also called for SS reform but doesn't say how. It calls for a committee to figure it out, but then if that solution doesn't get 60 Senate votes the ENTIRE bill is null and void.

It calls for heavy cuts, but say where, no details.

If it actually cut taxes for corporations and the wealthy, I can't see Dems voting for it. If it raised them on middle class, I can't see TEA party types voting for it.

I can't see where it would actually get much support from either side.

As far as Boehner's bill, not sure I care given it won't stop a credit downgrade.

Fern
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Moody's has already come out to say they are unlikely to downgrade as long as the US meets it's financial obligations. They will be put on a negative watch and if they default anywhere then you can worry.

S&P hasn't yet commented further.
 
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Anybody know if the Senate can, or will, use the Budget Reconciliation Process on this bill?

Fern
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Moody's has already come out to say they are unlikely to downgrade as long as the US meets it's financial obligations. They will be put on a negative watch and if they detail anywhere then you can worry.

S&P hasn't yet commented further.
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Thanks, hadn't heard that.

Fern
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Moody's has already come out to say they are unlikely to downgrade as long as the US meets it's financial obligations. They will be put on a negative watch and if they default anywhere then you can worry.

S&P hasn't yet commented further.
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Not downgrading IF there is a long term deal. This won't be a long term deal, so it's still up in the air as to if they will or not.
 
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