LOL Boehner's Plan Won't Even Pass in the Republican-Controlled House

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wuliheron

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In the end, everything will be destroyed. This will be worse than the depression, the civil war, and any world war America has gone through.
The American coup of 2011.
Stay tuned.. we will see.

Its not a coup and this ain't the civil war. Its maybe a quarter of the population who have the disposition of rabid dog and the brain of a rat. They demanded to either get their way or be slapped around a bit and, guess what, they're getting slapped around.
 

wuliheron

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So if that's true they basically think they'll stand a better chance if their entire party looks fractured and impotent? :p

Hell, even if it gets them re-elected, it won't get them into the leadership positions in the House. As long as they are outside of the power structure, they aren't going to fulfill many of their goals. Assuming they have a goal beyond just pure obstructionism, that is.

Children throwing tantrums all the time don't really have a strategy. Its who they are and the habit they've acquired. Hence, Boehner can't get it up, has pissed off almost everyone, but keeps raising hell anyway.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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The Tea Party fringe will never appeal to the broad American public. The Sarah Palins, Michelle Bachmanns, etc. will never win a general election.

The R's have no road to turn to. The Southern Strategy will no longer work. They are forced to make a deal with the devil, Teabaggers, and they are already beginning to regret it.
 

Craig234

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The Tea Party fringe will never appeal to the broad American public. The Sarah Palins, Michelle Bachmanns, etc. will never win a general election.

The R's have no road to turn to. The Southern Strategy will no longer work. They are forced to make a deal with the devil, Teabaggers, and they are already beginning to regret it.

Reagan couldn't win because he was too much a right-wing radical. George W. Bush couldn't win, he was only known for one thing; being the son of a President, a spoiled brat.

Don't underestimate the ability for radicals to win elections. Even if most can't, along comes one who can appeal to voters enough and play the game who can.

Look at our statehouse around the country who elected Republicans who regret it now.

For one thing, just remember, forget the candidate - a lot of money demonizes the Dem.

After 12 years of Reagan/Bush and 8 more of Bush 2, the country gave Congress to R in a big way, a historic win.

They have setbacks and backlashes, but corporate interests aren't going away.

Actually they have a historic advantage with the Supreme Court ruling, allowing unlimited corporate donations that turned Republican spending from less than Dems to double.

You could have said a bit ago there's no way the Tea Party could win the seats it has in Congress, too. Every Republican presidential candidate IMO is no better than a 'tea partier'.

While they haven't won the election in 2012, they have a winning strategy that gives them a chance if the economy is destroyed over the debt ceiling.
 

trenchfoot

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The repubs have an uncanny knack for playing on the emotions of a lot of the voting public. They make the Dems look like rank amatuers in this regard. There must be a whole brigade of Madison Ave. types that's being put to work by them to continually get voters to vote against their own best interests. I suppose the Tea Party's origins lie somewhere in that mix of messages that came out of the repub's style of advertizing their brand.

I see it every election cycle (much more after the USSC ruling on corporate political spending) and marvel at what unlimited funds poured into these 501/527 "civic interest groups" can do to influence the voting public into choosing an emotionally derived opinion based on innuendo and misinformation over an opinion based on fact and common sense.

Maybe that's about to change with the repubs being more obvious about their intentions of late, but 3 card monty is still their signature game.

However, as Boehner's found out the hard way, the repub leaders can't play that same game with the Tea Party faction of their party.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Basically the plan the Tea Party has is to block anything being done till it's too late, destroy the US economy totally (something Al Qaida can only dream of doing), and then claim the Democrats are to blame because it's their President who's being kept powerless to save the country by the Tea Party and the rest of the Republicans.

Al Qaida gave the US the first nudge, the Bush administration ruined the economy badly, and now the Tea Party is trying to give the country the killing blow. Spot the terrorist organisation(s).
 

phillyTIM

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This +1

basically the plan the tea party has is to block anything being done till it's too late, destroy the us economy totally (something al qaida can only dream of doing), and then claim the democrats are to blame because it's their president who's being kept powerless to save the country by the tea party and the rest of the republicans.

Al qaida gave the us the first nudge, the bush administration ruined the economy badly, and now the tea party is trying to give the country the killing blow. Spot the terrorist organisation(s).
 

ayabe

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Where's the GOP JOBS bill? How many jobs has Boner created since they took over? Unemployment was under 9% when they took over, now we are at 9.2% on the way to god knows what w/ this leadership.

The GOP 112th Congress has been a historic failure. Even Newt got more done.

Don't worry they'll return to the "laser-like focus" on jobs just as soon as this bukkake dojo has concluded. Their laser pointer needs new batteries anyway.
 

her209

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Don't worry they'll return to the "laser-like focus" on jobs just as soon as this bukkake dojo has concluded. Their laser pointer needs new batteries anyway.
FY2011 ends on September 31, 2011. That gives us approximately 64 days, including today, to work on passing the FY2012 budget.
 

a777pilot

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FY2011 ends on September 31, 2011. That gives us approximately 64 days, including today, to work on passing the FY2012 budget.

Have they, the Congress Critters, passed the FY 2011 budget yet?

Answer: NO!

....and you think they will pass a FY 2012 budget? Why?
 

a777pilot

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S&P will likely lower our rating if we don't approve $4T in spending cuts.


If you think that any legislation by the 112th Congress ties the spending hands of future Congresses, then you need to have your credit rating lowered......to junk status.
 

her209

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Have they, the Congress Critters, passed the FY 2011 budget yet?

Answer: NO!
False. Congress passed and the President signed the stop gap measure that funded the federal government until the end of the fiscal year.
 

hal2kilo

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Looks like Boehner has finally found a way to get his bill to pass. Turn it into the Cut, Cap, and Balance bill they passed already.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/07/practically_delusional.php?ref=fpblg

What is it about that this bill will never make it out of the Senate that the idiot Teabaggers don't understand. Welcome to divided government which so many posters on the forum proclaim to love. The Republican house is getting a taste of there own medicine in the form of the previously Democratic majority House not being able to get bills through the "controll by minority filibuster" Senate did.

Teabaggers thanks for diminishing the wealth of us poor middle class fools that were basically forced into investing in 401ks for retirement. If you jokers get what you want, which is to basically "burn the village to save the village" mentality. Good luck getting elected in 2012.
 

Tom

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It would be nice to see a large middle party.

there is one. It's the Democratic Party.

The problem is, there used to be a another middle party, the Republican Party.

Those 2 parties could get together and run the country pretty well.

The Republican Party has been replaced with the No Taxes Party.

This party attracts a lot of voters because people like free stuff.

Problem is, this isn't actually possible.
 

trenchfoot

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there is one. It's the Democratic Party.

The problem is, there used to be a another middle party, the Republican Party.

Those 2 parties could get together and run the country pretty well.

The Republican Party has been replaced with the No Taxes Party.

This party attracts a lot of voters because people like free stuff.

Problem is, this isn't actually possible.


Well, in most respects I agree with you, especially right at this moment. On second thought, thinking about what the Dems in Congress and Obama have yielded to so far, and as Red Dawn alluded to, it looks like the Dems have bent over so far backwards that they're now bent over forwards in a "compromizing position" and are being gang raped by the young hormone-pumped Tea Party faction, with their repub elders standing around the disgusting act cheering the rapers on.

Harry Reid's offer looks to be, for all intents and purposes, exactly what the repubs expected to offer up from the get-go. Alarmingly, there's no revenue component in his offer to get the very rich to bleed in their fair share....The very rich gets a free pass from the Dems.....AGAIN.

The Dems, at the moment, in their efforts to appear"compromizing", have abandoned their core ideology and are now looking and smelling like mainstream repubs. If that's what it's going to take to get all on board, I guess the Tea Party did their job after all.
 
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trenchfoot

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Boner can't get it up, blames liberals for impedance. Economy collapses and angry mob throws Tea Party in Boston harbor. Film at 11:00.

Sequel: Boehner and the remnant repub leadership comes out of hiding after Boston Tea Party Deux and proclaims a new mandate by the people to cut taxes and institute even more corporate welfare to create jobs and balance the budget thus spawning the Tea Lynching Mob, where Rush Limbaugh gets elected to the House and takes the leadership. Bachmann takes over the repub Senate and Palin takes over the RNC promising to lead her party and the nation into a new era of prosperity.

A New Red Dawn has risen. "Resistance is futile" says Ran Paul. "The Dems will be assimilated". :awe: