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randay

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Even though COD3 isn't out, even though the PS3 will have better graphics, somehow I know bashing a kraut over the head by swinging the nunchuk down hard, and aiming directly at the screen to shoot will draw me far more in than a more realistic explosion. One makes me think "cool", and the other puts a grin on my face just thinking about it.


lol that does sound hilarious. what if it was multiplayer and the other guy is sitting right next to you. haha.
 

mugs

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As has been said over and over... it's all about the games.

You criticized Nintendo for mentioning the possibility of remakes of GameCube games with Wii-mote functionality added. I think that's a spectacular idea, especially if they're priced competitively. Like... $20.

See, by all accounts the Wii should outsell the GameCube by a sizeable margin. Many people who will be buying the Wii will have never played those GameCube games anyway. It's a great way to build a collection of good, cheap games.

Of course they will continue to release innovative new games, as they always have.



Nintendo's biggest problems are its stigma of making systems for kids (those "kids" games are still fun to me and I'm 25) and fanboys - young adult males who grew up on PlayStations. I grew up on the NES and SNES, so I'm a bit partial to Nintendo, but I'll eventually buy all three systems (the PS3 last probably, because I'll probably want to wait for the price to drop a LOT)
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?
 

randay

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?

Are they gonna make a standard controller for when you're just not in the mood? or have a headache? or someone's already in the bathroom?
 

imported_goku

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The real question is how much did the GC cost at launch, if it cost significantly more then it would make sense for the Wii to cost less but if the GC cost as much as the wii, then I see no reason for the Wii to cost as much as it's launch price will be.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?

Are they gonna make a standard controller for when you're just not in the mood? or have a headache? or someone's already in the bathroom?

Ah, someone went off spouting when they're clearly uninformed.
Yes, you can plug in standard Gamecube controllers. Or you can get the classic controller.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Pastore
From that post it sounds like you'll enjoy a Wii if you like crazy retarded games.

I love Nintendos crazy fun games, back when they were on the Nintendo. Since then they haven't made enough original games for me to buy any of thier consoles since the super Nintendo. The N64 was tempting, but my friend had that and they were all multiplayer games anyway. Is there any game that can compete with Chrono Trigger?

I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Then you need to give a try to super monkey ball, wario ware, zelda four swords, among others. Wiimote will definitely be much fun multi, but will be excellent for single player games as well.

As someone already said, standard controller will be available on day one, already compatible with GC controllers, including the wireless wavebird. Plus, its up to you whether or not you want to stand up and make really exaggerated motions, or quick flicks of the wrist.

The real question is how much did the GC cost at launch, if it cost significantly more then it would make sense for the Wii to cost less but if the GC cost as much as the wii, then I see no reason for the Wii to cost as much as it's launch price will be.

GC cost $199 at launch, and came with one wired controller, as was sold at a loss.
Wii costs $249 at launch, is more powerful hardware than the GC, has internal storge + wifi, etc, comes with a wireless controller with far more tech in it than those gc controllers, the nunchuk attachment, and a pack in game. And they're making a profit. They could probably have sold it at $199 at a loss, but honestly, they are already much cheaper than the competitors, and don't really need to.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?

Are they gonna make a standard controller for when you're just not in the mood? or have a headache? or someone's already in the bathroom?

Ah, someone went off spouting when they're clearly uninformed.
Yes, you can plug in standard Gamecube controllers. Or you can get the classic controller.

That "Classic Controller" is an abomination. They actually made a controller that's WORSE than DualShock 2, something I thought would be impossible in this day and age. Or at least it looks bad, can't say I've ever held it in my hands. I guess if you're not using the analog sticks it's not so bad - just like a SNES controller. And for N64 games you could use the GameCube controller I guess (although that'll get tricky with the C buttons... hmm...).
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?

Are they gonna make a standard controller for when you're just not in the mood? or have a headache? or someone's already in the bathroom?

Ah, someone went off spouting when they're clearly uninformed.
Yes, you can plug in standard Gamecube controllers. Or you can get the classic controller.

That "Classic Controller" is an abomination. They actually made a controller that's WORSE than DualShock 2, something I thought would be impossible in this day and age. Or at least it looks bad, can't say I've ever held it in my hands. I guess if you're not using the analog sticks it's not so bad - just like a SNES controller. And for N64 games you could use the GameCube controller I guess (although that'll get tricky with the C buttons... hmm...).

Ya, it really is hideous. I'm just gonna use the wavebird.
 

randay

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?

Are they gonna make a standard controller for when you're just not in the mood? or have a headache? or someone's already in the bathroom?

Ah, someone went off spouting when they're clearly uninformed.
Yes, you can plug in standard Gamecube controllers. Or you can get the classic controller.

Yes when I ask a question that usually means I don't know the answer. Will you be able to play games that have wiimote functionality, without the wiimote, and still be able to play the game? Will the wiimote be mandatory for the games or not?
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Ramma2
Originally posted by: Tom
"I don't see how I have taken Miyamoto's quote out of context when I took it literally. He said that "The hardware is basically a GC"."

He was talking about game compatibility, not power. That is precisely how you took it out of context.

Exactly. The question has nothing to do with hardware specs, and the answer has nothing to do with hardware specs.

Take of the Sony blinders and relax a little.

I don't agree, the question was in regard to the pace at which games will be released, in regards to the pace at which games for the GC were released.

Miyamoto responds with the reason: Because "The hardware is basically a GC". They plan to remake GC games, modifying them for functionality with the wiimote, and that is his answer as to why the release pace is similiar to the GC's.

You are right that the question had nothing to do with hardware specs, but his ANSWER does.


No it doesn't. His comment has absolutely nothing to do with the specs of the Wii, except the one spec that it is capable of running Gamecube software.

That says absolutely nothing about your original claim, that the Wii is just a Gamecube with a different controller.

 

randay

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Originally posted by: Tom
No it doesn't. His comment has absolutely nothing to do with the specs of the Wii, except the one spec that it is capable of running Gamecube software.

That says absolutely nothing about your original claim, that the Wii is just a Gamecube with a different controller.

The Nyle is a river in Egypt.
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Tom
No it doesn't. His comment has absolutely nothing to do with the specs of the Wii, except the one spec that it is capable of running Gamecube software.

That says absolutely nothing about your original claim, that the Wii is just a Gamecube with a different controller.

The Nyle is a river in Egypt.


congrats, you can't spell either. ;)
 

randay

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Tom
No it doesn't. His comment has absolutely nothing to do with the specs of the Wii, except the one spec that it is capable of running Gamecube software.

That says absolutely nothing about your original claim, that the Wii is just a Gamecube with a different controller.

The Nyle is a river in Egypt.


congrats, you can't spell either. ;)

i can spell if i wanted to i just dont want to right now
 

Kirby

Lifer
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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Pastore
From that post it sounds like you'll enjoy a Wii if you like crazy retarded games.

I love Nintendos crazy fun games, back when they were on the Nintendo. Since then they haven't made enough original games for me to buy any of thier consoles since the super Nintendo. The N64 was tempting, but my friend had that and they were all multiplayer games anyway. Is there any game that can compete with Chrono Trigger?

I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

:confused:

 

BD2003

Lifer
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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: randay
I think the wiimote is only gonna be good when it comes to multiplayer games, other then that its gonna be like whackin off in the bathroom.

Is that a bad thing?

Are they gonna make a standard controller for when you're just not in the mood? or have a headache? or someone's already in the bathroom?

Ah, someone went off spouting when they're clearly uninformed.
Yes, you can plug in standard Gamecube controllers. Or you can get the classic controller.

Yes when I ask a question that usually means I don't know the answer. Will you be able to play games that have wiimote functionality, without the wiimote, and still be able to play the game? Will the wiimote be mandatory for the games or not?

You will not be able to play wiimote games without the wiimote. At least, there arent any games designed with dual types of control. Some games will use just the remote, many will require the packed nunchuk attachment.

For the most part, the wiimote is the controller of choice. Although it has been stated that smash bros will not use the motion sensing capabilities of the wiimote, so there will likely be many games with "standard controls". Although I cant see why anyone wouldnt use the wiimote when they could...you don't *have* to stand up and make giant exaggerated motions like they do in the commercials.
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: goku
The real question is how much did the GC cost at launch, if it cost significantly more then it would make sense for the Wii to cost less but if the GC cost as much as the wii, then I see no reason for the Wii to cost as much as it's launch price will be.


brain explodes.

 

CellarDoor

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I think you're all stupid for arguing endlessly about which console is better, when neither of them are out yet.

I'm currently playing "Wild Arms" for the original playstation and I love it. :)
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: BD2003
I for one would love to play f-zero GX with the wii-mote. :)

I don't know about that one. The Wiimote is very sensitive. A small little twitch and you will crash and burn at the speeds FZero runs at.

 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: BD2003
I for one would love to play f-zero GX with the wii-mote. :)

I don't know about that one. The Wiimote is very sensitive. A small little twitch and you will crash and burn at the speeds FZero runs at.

That I can vouch for. Using the Wiimote with ExciteTruck and any sudden twitch or movement and GAME OVER MAN!!!!
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: BD2003
I for one would love to play f-zero GX with the wii-mote. :)

I don't know about that one. The Wiimote is very sensitive. A small little twitch and you will crash and burn at the speeds FZero runs at.

Then lower the sensitivity. Just don't sneeze.

Thats the only thing that bugs me about the wiimote really. There should be an easily reachable hold button, so you can shift around in your seat without flying all over the place.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: BD2003
I for one would love to play f-zero GX with the wii-mote. :)

I don't know about that one. The Wiimote is very sensitive. A small little twitch and you will crash and burn at the speeds FZero runs at.

Then lower the sensitivity. Just don't sneeze.

Thats the only thing that bugs me about the wiimote really. There should be an easily reachable hold button, so you can shift around in your seat without flying all over the place.

That would be called the pause button.....