List of people I was surprised to learn were extreme conservatives.

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pete6032

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I'm bored, so I feel like making a list.


Victoria Jackson
- short blonde SNL actor, never did much after that. She is currently starring in a movie called "Liberalism is a Dirty Disease"

Mel Gibson
- We all know what he's like today, but for the 80's and most of the 90's nobody knew his politics

Scott Baio
- Again, we know now, but for years he never hinted at any political leanings, much less ultra-conservative nonsense. Same as.....

Kirk Cameron
- I never followed celeb gossip as a child, also I didn't like Growing Pains, but apparently he became a born again christian was back then and was harassing the cast and crew all day for years on end. I think he got a cast member kicked off for having a baby out of wedlock, or some bullshit.

Adam Baldwin
- The non-Baldwin brother. He switched to extreme conservative views after reading one book, and allegedly harassed women during the gamergate debacle, to the point where he was banned from sci-fi conventions (you may recall him as the tall man on Firefly)

Kirstie Alley
- Also famous for not speaking her views until very recently. If her Twitter is any indication, she's a conspiracy nut as well.

The main reason these people surprised me is until I saw something about them (mostly during the Trump years) on the news I had no idea they kept extreme conservative beliefs. I actually miss the days before social media, when unpleasant information about celebs wasnt being forced on me every time I checked out the internet.

Others are sad but not surprising, like Micheal Bay, Jerry Bruckheimer, James Caan, Adam Carolla, Jon Cryer, Bo Derek, Clint Eastwood, Lou Ferrigno, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Hopper, Patricia Heaton, and Heather Locklear.
I don't have a problem with people if they have conservative views and can justify it but if you're spouting conspiracy theories or practicing identity politics then you are an awful person. Your list seems to contain both. Patricia Heaton used to be a Democrat, and openly supports gay right and gay marriage, doesn't like Trump, supports feminism, opposes the death penalty, and has done lots of work to support children in third world countries. She became a Republican due to her pro-life stance. I'm not pro-life, but I can respect her decision because she isn't an overly-derisive Republican who spouts out hate and blindly accepts the party line, and she seems like a pretty decent human being.
 

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The only one on that list I found at all surprising is Scott Baio. And only because I had never heard (or even thought about) his views on anything, ever. Can't say I'd ever spent any time wondering 'is Bugsy Malone a right-winger?'.

The one I confess I was a bit surprised by was Gary Oldman. But probably the fact that Gary Numan is pretty right-wing should have been a clue. Maybe Gary Middleagedman is the liberal one?
 
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Lifer
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I actually feel a tiny bit impressed that Kelsey Grammar never let his own politics affect his ability to play a quintessentially elite-liberal type of character. Only a tiny bit, but still, you can't say it ever affected his performance as an actor.
 
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fskimospy

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How can anyone forget Kevin Sorbo, of Hercules fame?! Not only is he super conservative and super Christian, he has revealed that this is why his career has gone nowhere in the last 25 years.

I can’t think of any other reason so he must be right.
 
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HomerJS

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Antonio Sabato Jr been blackballed from entertainment world has now works a construction job.
I doubt he was blackballed. If you can make money you will work. Ala Mel Gibson and he's a huge anti Semite
 

Commodus

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Also I tend to go with the general notion that we all want the same ultimate goal (regardless of political party) - it's just that the political parties differ on the best way to get to the goal.

I'm not entirely convinced that's the case.

It's not just that the modern Republican party and its diehard supporters treat politics like a game, where it's more important to win than to actually govern (see: voter suppression), it's that there's an open contempt for people you just don't see in... well, most political parties around the world.

Think about it: Republican governors not only reopened economies prematurely knowing how deadly it would be, but have been eager to cut support for out-of-work people to unsustainably low levels. Then there's denying climate science and explicitly pushing for environmental deregulation that they know will kill people. And let's not forget staples like blocking gun violence research (because that could easily show a need for more gun control).

The Democrats, for all their faults, at least seem to treat governing as a serious responsibility and see their goal as making the country better for everyone. Right now, Republicans seem to treat governing as a way to help only themselves... and the scary thing is that they're genuinely willing to end lives deemed to be 'burdens,' no matter how hard-working or promising those people might be.
 
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You didn't get into the music world...

Mo Tucker turning out to be a tea-party supporter?

And then there's Morrrissey...I actually don't feel able to listen to the Smiths any more, he's become so rancid. "Conservative" I can live with, but he's come close to endorsing the racist far-right.
 
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sactoking

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I don't have a problem with people if they have conservative views and can justify it but if you're spouting conspiracy theories or practicing identity politics then you are an awful person. Your list seems to contain both. Patricia Heaton used to be a Democrat, and openly supports gay right and gay marriage, doesn't like Trump, supports feminism, opposes the death penalty, and has done lots of work to support children in third world countries. She became a Republican due to her pro-life stance. I'm not pro-life, but I can respect her decision because she isn't an overly-derisive Republican who spouts out hate and blindly accepts the party line, and she seems like a pretty decent human being.
If she votes AGAINST all the "decent" things she believes in due to a single issue then that sounds like she's a pretty shit person to me.
 
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Victoria Jackson got me to ignore everything she does when I heard a stern show interview with her a long time ago.
She basically said I send my kids to private school and I don’t want to pay for poor kids to go to public school. Fuck them they should have known not to be poor.

Pure deplorable logic before the deplorable word was used.
 
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fskimospy

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Victoria Jackson got me to ignore everything she does when I heard a stern show interview with her a long time ago.
She basically said I send my kids to private school and I don’t want to pay for poor kids to go to public school. Fuck them they should have known not to be poor.

Pure deplorable logic before the deplorable word was used.
Oh well then you've missed out on all the horrible shit she's done since then! There's plenty. She's total human garbage.
 

dainthomas

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I'm bored, so I feel like making a list.


Victoria Jackson
- short blonde SNL actor, never did much after that. She is currently starring in a movie called "Liberalism is a Dirty Disease"

Mel Gibson
- We all know what he's like today, but for the 80's and most of the 90's nobody knew his politics

Scott Baio
- Again, we know now, but for years he never hinted at any political leanings, much less ultra-conservative nonsense. Same as.....

Kirk Cameron
- I never followed celeb gossip as a child, also I didn't like Growing Pains, but apparently he became a born again christian was back then and was harassing the cast and crew all day for years on end. I think he got a cast member kicked off for having a baby out of wedlock, or some bullshit.

Adam Baldwin
- The non-Baldwin brother. He switched to extreme conservative views after reading one book, and allegedly harassed women during the gamergate debacle, to the point where he was banned from sci-fi conventions (you may recall him as the tall man on Firefly)

Kirstie Alley
- Also famous for not speaking her views until very recently. If her Twitter is any indication, she's a conspiracy nut as well.

The main reason these people surprised me is until I saw something about them (mostly during the Trump years) on the news I had no idea they kept extreme conservative beliefs. I actually miss the days before social media, when unpleasant information about celebs wasnt being forced on me every time I checked out the internet.

Others are sad but not surprising, like Micheal Bay, Jerry Bruckheimer, James Caan, Adam Carolla, Jon Cryer, Bo Derek, Clint Eastwood, Lou Ferrigno, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Hopper, Patricia Heaton, and Heather Locklear.

Adam Baldwin also was on that Last Ship show, which started out really good but kinda floundered towards the end. He blocked me on Twitter because I mocked him during the big "boycott the NFL" thing. I guess words hurt.
 

hal2kilo

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I'm bored, so I feel like making a list.


Victoria Jackson
- short blonde SNL actor, never did much after that. She is currently starring in a movie called "Liberalism is a Dirty Disease"

Mel Gibson
- We all know what he's like today, but for the 80's and most of the 90's nobody knew his politics

Scott Baio
- Again, we know now, but for years he never hinted at any political leanings, much less ultra-conservative nonsense. Same as.....

Kirk Cameron
- I never followed celeb gossip as a child, also I didn't like Growing Pains, but apparently he became a born again christian was back then and was harassing the cast and crew all day for years on end. I think he got a cast member kicked off for having a baby out of wedlock, or some bullshit.

Adam Baldwin
- The non-Baldwin brother. He switched to extreme conservative views after reading one book, and allegedly harassed women during the gamergate debacle, to the point where he was banned from sci-fi conventions (you may recall him as the tall man on Firefly)

Kirstie Alley
- Also famous for not speaking her views until very recently. If her Twitter is any indication, she's a conspiracy nut as well.

The main reason these people surprised me is until I saw something about them (mostly during the Trump years) on the news I had no idea they kept extreme conservative beliefs. I actually miss the days before social media, when unpleasant information about celebs wasnt being forced on me every time I checked out the internet.

Others are sad but not surprising, like Micheal Bay, Jerry Bruckheimer, James Caan, Adam Carolla, Jon Cryer, Bo Derek, Clint Eastwood, Lou Ferrigno, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Hopper, Patricia Heaton, and Heather Locklear.
Not the least surprised. One of them actually has an agent that calls regularly.
 

FaaR

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She became a Republican due to her pro-life stance. I'm not pro-life, but I can respect her decision because she isn't an overly-derisive Republican who spouts out hate and blindly accepts the party line, and she seems like a pretty decent human being.
Problem is, Repuggers aren't "pro-life", they're merely anti-abortion. The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate in the western world, that should say some about how "pro-life" the GOP is. These fuckers don't want any of the things that would help low income newborns especially and their mothers, either early on in life or later; no universal health care, no paid maternal leave, no paid sick leave, against proper funding for public education and so on and on.

Someone who votes for the Repuggers is an enabler for all the monstrous shit they get up to - especially these days. It's as simple as that. There are no "good people" Repugnicons.

How can anyone forget Kevin Sorbo, of Hercules fame?! Not only is he super conservative and super Christian, he has revealed that this is why his career has gone nowhere in the last 25 years.
This galls me. Hercules was an admittedly low budget but still cool TV show, as a lifelong sci-fi and fantasy nerd it's really depressing to have its legacy tainted this way. And sadly, chance that Sorbo is unable to grasp his lack of carreer success is due to his own embracing of the most obnoxious ("born-again" "christians") of the obnoxious (conservatives) is a mathematical function approaching infinity I would think.

And then there's Morrrissey...I actually don't feel able to listen to the Smiths any more, he's become so rancid.
Morrissey... lol! If he smells bacon on you he'll have you thrown out of his venue, that he's essentially fascism-adjacent is pretty much a foregone conclusion! lol
 

fskimospy

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Problem is, Repuggers aren't "pro-life", they're merely anti-abortion. The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate in the western world, that should say some about how "pro-life" the GOP is. These fuckers don't want any of the things that would help low income newborns especially and their mothers, either early on in life or later; no universal health care, no paid maternal leave, no paid sick leave, against proper funding for public education and so on and on.

Someone who votes for the Repuggers is an enabler for all the monstrous shit they get up to - especially these days. It's as simple as that. There are no "good people" Repugnicons.


This galls me. Hercules was an admittedly low budget but still cool TV show, as a lifelong sci-fi and fantasy nerd it's really depressing to have its legacy tainted this way. And sadly, chance that Sorbo is unable to grasp his lack of carreer success is due to his own embracing of the most obnoxious ("born-again" "christians") of the obnoxious (conservatives) is a mathematical function approaching infinity I would think.


Morrissey... lol! If he smells bacon on you he'll have you thrown out of his venue, that he's essentially fascism-adjacent is pretty much a foregone conclusion! lol

I know, I used to watch Hercules all the time! It was absolutely ridiculous but it was fun. It also occasionally had Bruce Campbell, who is one of my all time favorites.

Sad to see that Kevin Sorbo is a whiny, entitled dickbag, yes.
 
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hal2kilo

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I know, I used to watch Hercules all the time! It was absolutely ridiculous but it was fun. It also occasionally had Bruce Campbell, who is one of my all time favorites.

Sad to see that Kevin Sorbo is a whiny, entitled dickbag, yes.
Maybe he can find a gig doing "Buy Gold" ads.
 
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pauldun170

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There are tons of actors out there who are conservative. Like most people, Acting is just a profession and like most people religion and politics courtesy guidelines still apply in their daily lives.
When GOP started going full stupid in the 90's it seemed the smarter ones started to keep a distance from the GOP and the Republican "machine" went the extra mile to avoid political conversations in public.
You can be conservative and disagree with the GOP just like you can be a gun owner and hate the NRA.

Then you have those who play the blame game.
They blame their failing careers on their political preference instead of blaming it on their asshole behavior, drug addictions and lack of drawing power.
"I was blacklisted for being a conservative!!!"
No. You lectured the director on same sex marriage for 3 months and then argued with the writers.

"No one would hire me because I believe liberty!!!"
No. You showed up late everyday and talked down to people even though the last hit you had was in 1992. Side note: Referring to castmates as "The Jew" is frowned upon.

"I can't get work because I don't subscribe to the liberal media"
No. You can't get work because coke addicts who threaten people on set generally get work only when they actually can pull in $$$$ in the box office.
 

fskimospy

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There are tons of actors out there who are conservative. Like most people, Acting is a profession and like most people religion and politics courtesy guidelines still apply in their daily lives.
When GOP started going full stupid in the 90's it seemed the smarter ones started to keep a distance from the GOP and the Republican "machine" went the extra mile to avoid political conversations in public.
You can be conservative and disagree with the GOP just like you can be a gun owner and hate the NRA.

Then you have those who play the blame game.
They blame their failing careers on their political preference instead of blaming it on their asshole behavior, drug addictions and lack of drawing power.
"I was blacklisted for being a conservative!!!"
No. You lectured the director on same sex marriage for 3 months and then argued with the writers.

"No one would hire me because I believe liberty!!!"
No. You showed up late everyday and talked down to people even though the last hit you had was in 1992. Side note: Referring to castmates as "The Jew" is frowned upon.

"I can't get work because I don't subscribe to the liberal media"
No. You can't get work because coke addicts who threaten people on set generally get work only when they actually can pull in $$$$ in the box office.
I suspect another reason is the acting profession has a disproportionate percentage of non-college educated white people, which is basically ground zero for Trumpkins. It's the same deal in professional sports.
 
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dainthomas

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Problem is, Repuggers aren't "pro-life", they're merely anti-abortion. The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate in the western world, that should say some about how "pro-life" the GOP is. These fuckers don't want any of the things that would help low income newborns especially and their mothers, either early on in life or later; no universal health care, no paid maternal leave, no paid sick leave, against proper funding for public education and so on and on.

Someone who votes for the Repuggers is an enabler for all the monstrous shit they get up to - especially these days. It's as simple as that. There are no "good people" Repugnicons.


This galls me. Hercules was an admittedly low budget but still cool TV show, as a lifelong sci-fi and fantasy nerd it's really depressing to have its legacy tainted this way. And sadly, chance that Sorbo is unable to grasp his lack of carreer success is due to his own embracing of the most obnoxious ("born-again" "christians") of the obnoxious (conservatives) is a mathematical function approaching infinity I would think.


Morrissey... lol! If he smells bacon on you he'll have you thrown out of his venue, that he's essentially fascism-adjacent is pretty much a foregone conclusion! lol

You don't run into many ultra conservative militant vegans. Was surprised when I heard that.
 

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Adam Baldwin career plan...fits many others on the list.


Take a mediocre actor who fails to make it big, have him discover religion and claim he's being persecuted for his faith...send him out on the evangelical TV circuit to cultivating a following. Soon the low-budge roles flood in.
 

woolfe9998

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How can anyone forget Kevin Sorbo, of Hercules fame?! Not only is he super conservative and super Christian, he has revealed that this is why his career has gone nowhere in the last 25 years.

I can’t think of any other reason so he must be right.

Funny, I never watched Hercules. I know Sorbo from Andromeda. And yes, I knew he was a conservative Christian. His "career" currently consists of roles in Christian apologetics movies, much like Kirk Cameron.
 

dank69

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If that theory holds, why are a majority of Hollywood celebrities liberal?
It's common. It isn't a rule. I'm sure there are a lot of factors that counter the normal trend once you get into show business. Lots of exposure to LBGTQ people being pretty high on that list.
 

MtnMan

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Mel Gibson surprises you? Well color me surprised. Don't you remember his anti-jewish meltdowns?