Libya: U.N. Security Council to support action short of invasion

[RbSX]

AFAIK there are transport craft and patrol ships in the region. One of our Halifax frigates has been in the region for months keeping a check on the Somali pirates with that International force there.

We also had one leave on March 2nd from Halifax.

Yeah it should be arriving there right around now actually.

Not to mention we could probably redeploy some of our forces from Afghanistan, you know, that other shithole we got involved in for the Americans.

 

[CanOWorms]

"Indeed, our British and French allies, and members of the Arab League, have already committed to take a leadership role in the enforcement of this resolution, just as they were instrumental in pursuing it." -Barack Obama

This must be very hard for you. Obama is just repeating what the rest of the world already knows: the USA is very close allies with Western Europe. He doesn't want to attack any European carriers or bomb London.

I've never denied that they're our allies. I've claimed that Obama recognizes their general state of decline and supports new alliances among the newly emerging powers. He wants to reorient US foreign relations.

He wants to help Britain and France with their goals.

I don't think so. European energy security, migrant exodus, and French PR are not Obama's goals. Why do you think he has been hesitant until Gaddafi's forces turned the tide and seemed to be reaching the base of the opposition? It's to prevent a civilian massacre.

Don't do anything rash. Obama's not going to let those evil Europeans beat you up and humiliate you. But don't expect better luck with white women unless you stop being such a weirdo.

Obama will not let the Europeans run out of control.

 

[Dominato3r]

Reuters quotes a senior US military official saying US, British, French, Italian and Canadian forces are to launch a strike along the Libyan coast.

 

[RabidMongoose]

AFAIK there are transport craft and patrol ships in the region. One of our Halifax frigates has been in the region for months keeping a check on the Somali pirates with that International force there.

We also had one leave on March 2nd from Halifax.

Great. Now Canada is to abandon a role in the prevention of piracy if it wants to be more responsible in Libya? Again, Canada is about as relevant as Mongolia when it comes to important global issues, especially since the Canadian response in Libya is pretty sad. 6 fighters! Again, that would probably be good enough to blow up 1 tank and kill 2 goats.

This was an opportunity for Canada to step up and show that it can actually do something, that it isn't a country that is 100% dependent upon the United States. However, Canada up to this point has failed. Step up, please, and help out the Libyans and keep the Europeans in check.

 

[CanOWorms]

You're right, we abuse your fascination with consumption. Thanks for making us rich up here, seriously, when you guys were eating shit off the ground during your recession the streets here were flourishing. Thanks for your fascination with home equity financing, credit card debt and general stupidity.

Frankly, the Danes sent an equal number of F-16s to our CF-18s, why don't you move on to mocking them next.

The Danes don't pretend to be the world's greatest international peacekeeping force the world has ever seen.

 

[CanOWorms]

Reuters quotes a senior US military official saying US, British, French, Italian and Canadian forces are to launch a strike along the Libyan coast.

Italy's role is very interesting given Berlusconi's close personal relationship with Gaddafi. I question if they can be trusted.

 

[RbSX]

And... JTF2 has been deployed. Wonderful!

HMCS Charlottetown to head to Libya for evacuation

OTTAWA — Canada is following the lead of its allies and stepping up its military presence around violence-plagued Libya.

HMCS Charlottetown will depart Halifax Wednesday on a week-long journey to the region to assist with the evacuation of Canadian civilians, Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced Tuesday in the House of Commons.

"The men and women of our naval forces, the men and women of all of our armed forces, have been called upon time and time again to make a difference in difficult situations," he said during question period. "We are once again pleased that they are answering the call."

The navy frigate and its crew of 240 officers and seamen will join two C-130 Hercules aircraft which are already in the area and are capable of landing on shorter, unpaved terrain. Canada also has one C-17 in nearby Malta along with 22 military police officers, medics and reconnaissance personnel.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay said the ship carries a Sea King helicopter and is prepared to go beyond simply removing the remaining 100 to 200 Canadians still stuck in Libya.

"The intention here is obviously to provide . . . for the continued support of all efforts to remove Canadians . . . from Libya as well as support, if need be, certain humanitarian efforts," he said.

"As we've seen in Haiti, this is a very versatile platform. To have this type of capability in the region, we feel will further empower our efforts to evacuate Canadians and to prepare for other inevitabilities, whether it's the enforcement of sanctions (or) to work with the international community."

Postmedia News has confirmed that JTF2, Canada's elite special forces unit, has been sent to the region. MacKay would not comment on JTF2's movements but did note that some Canadian troops are embedded within the operations centre with British and other allied forces.

 

[RbSX]

Great. Now Canada is to abandon a role in the prevention of piracy if it wants to be more responsible in Libya? Again, Canada is about as relevant as Mongolia when it comes to important global issues, especially since the Canadian response in Libya is pretty sad. 6 fighters! Again, that would probably be good enough to blow up 1 tank and kill 2 goats.

This was an opportunity for Canada to step up and show that it can actually do something, that it isn't a country that is 100% dependent upon the United States. However, Canada up to this point has failed. Step up, please, and help out the Libyans and keep the Europeans in check.

You're an idiot aren't you? We just deployed a second ship specifically dedicated to the Libya situation.

 

[Infohawk]

Obama will not let the Europeans run out of control.

You tell yourself that. You are safe in your home. Nobody is going to attack you assuming you don't act like this much of an asshat in real life. When you were beat up in Europe was it only after you accused them of being Nazis? Maybe their parents died at the hands of the Nazis and they just felt like they had to beat you up to protect their memory?

Like I said, don't do anything extreme like shooting at European tourists or European-Americans who you hate just as much.

 

[CanOWorms]

You tell yourself that. You are safe in your home. Nobody is going to attack you assuming you don't act like this much of an asshat in real life. When you were beat up in Europe was it only after you accused them of being Nazis? Maybe their parents died at the hands of the Nazis and they just felt like they had to beat you up to protect their memory?

Like I said, don't do anything extreme like shooting at European tourists or European-Americans who you hate just as much.

ADD again, huh?

 

[RabidMongoose]

You're right, we abuse your fascination with consumption. Thanks for making us rich up here, seriously, when you guys were eating shit off the ground during your recession the streets here were flourishing. Thanks for your fascination with home equity financing, credit card debt and general stupidity.

Frankly, the Danes sent an equal number of F-16s to our CF-18s, why don't you move on to mocking them next.

As if the US is poor? Get real. At this point, Canada's entire economy (imports and exports) are almost entirely dependent upon the United States. This is why Canadians always cry about the US, but the US barely even cares about Canada.

This was a Canadian opportunity to stand up and show that it is relevant in the world. As usual, Canada failed. Keep on being useless.

 

[CanOWorms]

As if the US is poor? Get real. At this point, Canada's entire economy (imports and exports) are almost entirely dependent upon the United States. This is why Canadians always cry about the US, but the US barely even cares about Canada.

This was a Canadian opportunity to stand up and show that it is relevant in the world. As usual, Canada failed. Keep on being useless.

It probably takes some time for them to ask the Queen for permission.

 

[Dominato3r]

Great. Now Canada is to abandon a role in the prevention of piracy if it wants to be more responsible in Libya? Again, Canada is about as relevant as Mongolia when it comes to important global issues, especially since the Canadian response in Libya is pretty sad. 6 fighters! Again, that would probably be good enough to blow up 1 tank and kill 2 goats.

This was an opportunity for Canada to step up and show that it can actually do something, that it isn't a country that is 100% dependent upon the United States. However, Canada up to this point has failed. Step up, please, and help out the Libyans and keep the Europeans in check.

I have no information about the Frigate near Somalian waters other than the fact that it is there. Whether or not it's moving towards Libya is uncertain.

What I do know is that HMCS Charlottetown left here on March the 2nd and is carrying about 240 sailors to help in any humanitarian efforts, and is to serve as a command for Canada there.

Along with the six hornets there are support personnel, which by my best guess are going to be brought there by C-17's or C-130s. Those will likely be used in what ever way Nato wants.

 

[RbSX]

As if the US is poor? Get real. At this point, Canada's entire economy (imports and exports) are almost entirely dependent upon the United States. This is why Canadians always cry about the US, but the US barely even cares about Canada.

This was a Canadian opportunity to stand up and show that it is relevant in the world. As usual, Canada failed. Keep on being useless.

Hmmm completely dependent on you. So how come when your consumption plunged and economy crashed, we were just peachy up here?

It's okay keep on thinking you're on top of the pedestal.

 

[RabidMongoose]

You tell yourself that. You are safe in your home. Nobody is going to attack you assuming you don't act like this much of an asshat in real life. When you were beat up in Europe was it only after you accused them of being Nazis? Maybe their parents died at the hands of the Nazis and they just felt like they had to beat you up to protect their memory?

Like I said, don't do anything extreme like shooting at European tourists or European-Americans who you hate just as much.

LOL - OK, now you think that Obama will let the Europeans get out of control? I don't think so. The US has already stepped in on the very European continent in the 1990's when Europeans were getting out of control. Obama won't let Europeans get out of control in Libya, no matter how much big your European genocide fetish is.

 

[RbSX]

I have no information about the Frigate near Somalian waters other than the fact that it is there. Whether or not it's moving towards Libya is uncertain.

What I do know is that HMCS Charlottetown left here on March the 2nd and is carrying about 240 sailors to help in any humanitarian efforts, and is to serve as a command for Canada there.

Along with the six hornets there are support personnel, which by my best guess are going to be brought there by C-17's or C-130s. Those will likely be used in what ever way Nato wants.

Special forces are already there, which is awesome.

 

[speg]

As if the US is poor? Get real. At this point, Canada's entire economy (imports and exports) are almost entirely dependent upon the United States. This is why Canadians always cry about the US, but the US barely even cares about Canada.

This was a Canadian opportunity to stand up and show that it is relevant in the world. As usual, Canada failed. Keep on being useless.

Not sure what your point is, but you sure are rabid in your efforts to put down Canada. This is an international effort and everyone can play a role.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Hmmm completely dependent on you. So how come when your consumption plunged and economy crashed, we were just peachy up here?

It's okay keep on thinking you're on top of the pedestal.

Are you serious? The US is a giant compared to Canada. It's not as if the US completely stopped. Canada is completely dependent upon the United States. It's why you guys cry about things like softwood lumber and that isn't even thought of in the US.

Canada is just content being completely dependent upon the United States, almost as if it were a 51st US state. This is an opportunity for Canadians to be more relevant than Bhutan on the world stage, but as usual the Canadians are failing because they are just dependent upon the US. 6 fighters - LOL.

 

[matt0611]

OBAMA: "The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

I don't think the congress authorized this.

Lies.

 

[Infohawk]

ADD again, huh?

Don't try to deflect. This is all about you and how your worldview is 100% different than what the rest of us call the real world. Do you have nightmares about Europe? Anyway, this has been great to see current events fly in the face of your delusions. So much fun seeing you flail around when you're proved wrong yet again. Jstorm really hit it on the head when he pointed out that in this thread you said the US has to stop France but in the other thread you said France is too weak to be a threat. Which one is it? LOL.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Not sure what your point is, but you sure are rabid in your efforts to put down Canada. This is an international effort and everyone can play a role.

I agree, everyone can play a role...helping out Libyans and keeping European armies in check is important. However, 6 fighters? That can maybe take out 1 tank and accidentally kill 2 goats. Canada has failed in this international effort.

 

[CanOWorms]

Special forces are already there, which is awesome.

Hopefully they'll be more useful than the British Special Forces who were defeated by rebel civilians.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Special forces are already there, which is awesome.

The 'Special Forces' consists of three men. Go Canada!

 

[CanOWorms]

Don't try to deflect. This is all about you and how your worldview is 100% different than what the rest of us call the real world.

"Rest of us" huh? How big is your ego? Everyone's world view is different. We come from different cultures so of course our views will be different.

Do you have nightmares about Europe?

LOL, I have to ask the same of you. Do you have nightmares over the future of Europe, population demographics, decline in economic state, decline in culture, etc.?

Anyway, this has been great to see current events fly in the face of your delusions. So much fun seeing you flail around when you're proved wrong yet again. Jstorm really hit it on the head when he pointed out that in this thread you said the US has to stop France but in the other thread you said France is too weak to be a threat. Which one is it? LOL.

I thought you were all against intellectual dishonesty.

In that other thread you said that Libyan civilians should all be gathered up, impaled, and luggage made out of their skin. Now you support helping the rebels. Which one is it?

 

[Infohawk]

"Rest of us" huh? How big is your ego? Everyone's world view is different.

Libyan civilians should all be gathered up, impaled, and luggage made out of their skin.

You are a sick puppy. I have never seen this level of fail-dancing on your part. This is a lot of fun though. People have disagreements over Europe, but you're on another planet. Today's events just show how wrong your beliefs are and you are having a break down and talking about turning Libyans into luggage. LOL. Don't interact with any Europeans or white people today, you might stab them in the back because you're so angry.