Libya: U.N. Security Council to support action short of invasion

[Aegeon]

By the way, logically this is really not likely to be about oil that much because if that was the priority the best approach would have been to sit back and let Quadhafi win so oil shipments go back to normal quickly. (Intervention probably means oil shipments are going to be disrupted for a longer period, and countries such as Libya and the UK already had companies engaging in oil drilling in Libya prior to this conflict.)

 

[RbSX]

This is simply an attempt by the Europeans to colonize another state. The US needs to be involved and make sure that the French, British, and whoever else do not take all of Libya's oil or commit any mass genocide against the population. We should not forget the European tendency to colonize and genocide.

There are and have been other serious issues in Africa, some perhaps even more serious than what is going on in Libya. How come the Europeans were not getting involved to such a degree in these other circumstances? It's simple. Oil and colonialism.

They think that they can trick the US and then pillage Libya once they defeat the Libyan army, but the US should position a couple of carrier attack groups around the UK and France (maybe in the Channel) to make sure that they behave properly.

You americans really are stupid aren't you? Libya WAS an Italian state, and they let it go.

 

[speg]

Shit is going down, US missiles inbound! Britsh forces also active.

 

[Infohawk]

Obama clearly believes in the alliance with Europe. He wouldn't be conducting joint military action with his European allies if he felt that they were on a genocidal mission or anything like that. COW must be absolutely devastated that the Pacific president is rejecting his worldview.

 

[CanOWorms]

6 fighters is pretty insulting. It's not enough to contribute to the European agenda for oil and migrants. What is the purpose of these 6 fighters? They'll probably just get in the way. Canada may be an acceptable nation here that has no interest in Libyan oil or migrants or even to colonize Libya like the Europeans probably are desiring. However, they are providing a pathetic 6 fighter jets? Yet another example of Canadian uselessness and irrelevance in the world.

It's kind of interesting since they like to claim themselves to be some great nation involved in international peacekeeping. I think that their token involvement is basically just a PR campaign at this stage. They could be more involved later.

 

[Infohawk]

You americans really are stupid aren't you?

Please don't generalize. You're being trolled by someone (who may have access to two accounts) with a very unusual world view.

 

[CanOWorms]

I'm guessing you put on the tinfoil and received signals from aliens as to the exact agenda of the Europeans?

It's not exactly a secret. It's European energy security, migrant exodus, and PR for France.

 

[Aegeon]

Probably not, in all likelihood we'll be spending the majority of our resources enforcing the no-fly zone, seeing as how we're one of the few nations with the ability to even do so effectively. Gates said it would take two aircraft carriers worth of fighters to enforce. The Canadians are sending what? 6 fighters? Lol. I mean it's appreciated, but lol. Drop in the bucket much? I doubt the French and British combined are contributing more than half the total air power, so that leaves us holding the majority share.

Uh, if the UK and France contributed half the air power, plus the other nations contributing, that would clearly put the US contribution below half of it, or in other words less than the majority.

It should be noted that France is deploying its own nuclear powered carrier to assist in addition to what is clearly a separate land based contribution from them.

 

[CanOWorms]

You americans really are stupid aren't you? Libya WAS an Italian state, and they let it go.

Wow, trying to revise history? They lost it. Saying that they "let it go" sounds like it was some altruistic behavior. Also calling it an Italian state is insulting. It was an Italian slave colony.

 

[Dominato3r]

So they hop from airport to airport due to lack of Canadian carrier, where are their munitions coming from?Not only should they do that but make sure they're upwind of London and Paris and pre-empt with multiple nuclear strikes. This is the most prudent way to ensure that these countries do not colonize and steal the oils!!!

Anyway, reports out in the last few min US has launched Tomahawks against Libyan air defense.

Along with the fighters there approximately 150 support personnel, my guess would be there are a few C-130's of C-17's going along with them. They will most likely be our own munitions.


And I guess my quote is outdated because the BBC is reporting that Canada will be joining Britain and France in the preliminary waves.

 

[RabidMongoose]

You americans really are stupid aren't you? Libya WAS an Italian state, and they let it go.

Wow, you Europeans have a hilarious view of colonialism. It's as if you think that most of the de-colonialism of European genocidal colonies was voluntary. Even in the case of Libya and Italy, it was due to the Italian genocidal forces being defeated by the Allied forces in WW2.

Moreover, here we have a concern about other European powers (France and the UK) who are looking into taking over Libyan oil and to implement another colonialist state.

Anyways, typical disgusting European history revisionist. Next you're going to tell me that it was good that Europeans raped and murdered millions upon millions of people all over the world. You are mentally deranged.

 

[CanOWorms]

Obama clearly believes in the alliance with Europe. He wouldn't be conducting joint military action with his European allies if he felt that they were on a genocidal mission or anything like that. COW must be absolutely devastated that the Pacific president is rejecting his worldview.

He required Arab participation, not European participation. He slighted them yet again.

 

[RbSX]

Wow, trying to revise history? They lost it. Saying that they "let it go" sounds like it was some altruistic behavior. Also calling it an Italian state is insulting. It was an Italian slave colony.

Yeah you mean like the United States was until the 60s? You guys are oh so civilized too. AMIRITE?

 

[irishScott]

Uh, if the UK and France contributed half the air power, plus the other nations contributing, that would clearly put the US contribution below half of it, or in other words less than the majority.

It should be noted that France is deploying its own nuclear powered carrier to assist in addition to what is clearly a separate land based contribution from them.

Cool, but at the very least I'm sure we'll be making the largest contribution of any single nation in terms of air power.

Hopefully I'm wrong. I still foresee the US being left holding the bag a few months or possibly years from now (which is how long it may take to stabilize Libya).

 

[RbSX]

6 fighters is pretty insulting. It's not enough to contribute to the European agenda for oil and migrants. What is the purpose of these 6 fighters? They'll probably just get in the way. Canada may be an acceptable nation here that has no interest in Libyan oil or migrants or even to colonize Libya like the Europeans probably are desiring. However, they are providing a pathetic 6 fighter jets? Yet another example of Canadian uselessness and irrelevance in the world.

Irrelevance? Where do you think your oil comes from pal?

 

[Dominato3r]

Probably not, in all likelihood we'll be spending the majority of our resources enforcing the no-fly zone, seeing as how we're one of the few nations with the ability to even do so effectively. Gates said it would take two aircraft carriers worth of fighters to enforce. The Canadians are sending what? 6 fighters? Lol. I mean it's appreciated, but lol. Drop in the bucket much? I doubt the French and British combined are contributing more than half the total air power, so that leaves us holding the majority share.

I was kind of surprised that we sent so few, but so is Norway, Denmark and Belgium.

This no-fly zone was actually supported by the Liberal opposition and for some reason Harper chose to send only six. I would have liked to see two squadrons at least. It would have been a good way to sell the purchase of the F-35s

 

[CanOWorms]

Yeah you mean like the United States was until the 60s? You guys are oh so civilized too. AMIRITE?

I don't think that you're going to win an argument over treatment of minorities.

 

[CanOWorms]

Irrelevance? Where do you think your oil comes from pal?

lol

 

[Dominato3r]

Key points
-The first shots have been fired in Libya by French military jets enforcing the no-fly zone voted for by the UN
-French aircraft are preventing forces loyal to Libyan leader Col Gaddafi from attacking the rebel-held city of Benghazi, French President Nicolas Sarkozy says after a meeting of world leaders in Paris
-French aircraft also flew over "all Libyan territory" on reconnaissance missions, according to French military sources
-Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte tells journalists he believed British, French and Canadian aircraft would launch the first airstrikes, a BBC correspondent reports
-Earlier, Pro-Gaddafi forces launched an assault on Benghazi, a BBC journalist witnessed. A jet appears to have been shot down over the city

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418

 

[RabidMongoose]

Irrelevance? Where do you think your oil comes from pal?

LOL - this is your response? Then considering the dependence of Canada's entire economy on the US, it's like saying that Canada wouldn't even exist without the United States.

Yes, Canada has shown that it is irrelevant in the world. Here it could provide a reasonable force to protect Libyans. Canada likely does not share the same European agenda. However, 6 fighter jets is just pathetic. I bet that Bhutan could provide more support than that. Canada has proven itself to be useless. At the very least it could have provided enough forces to keep the UK and the French in check, but instead Canada sends out some pathetic token force that will maybe blow up one tank and kill 2 goats. Good job, Canada. You sure are proving your worth with 6 fighters!

 

[Infohawk]

He required Arab participation, not European participation. He slighted them yet again.

"Indeed, our British and French allies, and members of the Arab League, have already committed to take a leadership role in the enforcement of this resolution, just as they were instrumental in pursuing it." -Barack Obama

This must be very hard for you. Obama is just repeating what the rest of the world already knows: the USA is very close allies with Western Europe. He doesn't want to attack any European carriers or bomb London. He wants to help Britain and France with their goals. Don't do anything rash. Obama's not going to let those evil Europeans beat you up and humiliate you. But don't expect better luck with white women unless you stop being such a weirdo.

 

[RbSX]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418

Winning.

 

[Dominato3r]

We just got a name: Operation Odyssey Dawn

 

[Dominato3r]

LOL - this is your response? Then considering the dependence of Canada's entire economy on the US, it's like saying that Canada wouldn't even exist without the United States.

Yes, Canada has shown that it is irrelevant in the world. Here it could provide a reasonable force to protect Libyans. Canada likely does not share the same European agenda. However, 6 fighter jets is just pathetic. I bet that Bhutan could provide more support than that. Canada has proven itself to be useless. At the very least it could have provided enough forces to keep the UK and the French in check, but instead Canada sends out some pathetic token force that will maybe blow up one tank and kill 2 goats. Good job, Canada. You sure are proving your worth with 6 fighters!

AFAIK there are transport craft and patrol ships in the region. One of our Halifax frigates has been in the region for months keeping a check on the Somali pirates with that International force there.

We also had one leave on March 2nd from Halifax.

 

[RbSX]

LOL - this is your response? Then considering the dependence of Canada's entire economy on the US, it's like saying that Canada wouldn't even exist without the United States.

Yes, Canada has shown that it is irrelevant in the world. Here it could provide a reasonable force to protect Libyans. Canada likely does not share the same European agenda. However, 6 fighter jets is just pathetic. I bet that Bhutan could provide more support than that. Canada has proven itself to be useless. At the very least it could have provided enough forces to keep the UK and the French in check, but instead Canada sends out some pathetic token force that will maybe blow up one tank and kill 2 goats. Good job, Canada. You sure are proving your worth with 6 fighters!

You're right, we abuse your fascination with consumption. Thanks for making us rich up here, seriously, when you guys were eating shit off the ground during your recession the streets here were flourishing. Thanks for your fascination with home equity financing, credit card debt and general stupidity.

Frankly, the Danes sent an equal number of F-16s to our CF-18s, why don't you move on to mocking them next.