Legitimate rape victims don't get pregnant

[nehalem256]

You said it was women's responsibility because it was "easier" for them.

I said all of the most effective reversible forms of birth control were controlled by women. Unless you are suggesting that men start lacing women's cereal with birth control pills or jamming IUDs up their vagina's they HAVE to be responsible for them.

There is no reason part of responsibility is not getting your bf to help pay for said BC. And if he wont he is clearly a jerk and someone she should not be having sex with.

This is evasion. You're responsible for your viewpoints, not "liberals". You trot out this lame rationale every time you're challenged on anything -- it is wholly unpersuasive.

It is the viewpoint of everyone who is not a radical right-wing republican. So unless you are pro-life it should be.

 

[HomerJS]

These two both signed the federal personhood bill

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I said all of the most effective reversible forms of birth control were controlled by women.

And so I was correct: you put the responsibility for birth control on women.

And you also put the responsibility for pregnancy or abortion on women.

Everything to you is the fault and responsibility of women. Men get off scot-free.

Your hatred of women infects your posts in every single thread you are active in.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Any one that reduces the Dem majority in the Senate can not be that bad. :thumbsup:

All politicians tell half truths and lies. You can not expect them to be taken by their word do you?

Elite? More like pathetic.

The man is an idiot and if it was some kind of sick joke by him or yourself, rape is no joking matter. Hope you don't have a daughter.

 

[nehalem256]

And so I was correct: you put the responsibility for birth control on women.

Because women control all of the most effective forms of contraception. I have never said men should not pay for BC for women they are having sex with.

And you also put the responsibility for pregnancy or abortion on women.

Everything to you is the fault and responsibility of women. Men get off scot-free.

Because men cannot get abortions.

Men get no (or very little) power and so have consequently little responsibility.

A woman is free to abort a man's fetus without his consent. But I guess other people having the power to destroy your stuff is scot-free huh?

It is an equally reasonable position to say that men and women have equal power over the fetus and equal responsibility. But if you are going to give women 100% power over it then they get 100% responsibility.

 

[LumbergTech]

Because women control all of the most effective forms of contraception. I have never said men should not pay for BC for women they are having sex with.



Because men cannot get abortions.

Men get no (or very little) power and so have consequently little responsibility.

A woman is free to abort a man's fetus without his consent. But I guess other people having the power to destroy your stuff is scot-free huh?

It is an equally reasonable position to say that men and women have equal power over the fetus and equal responsibility. But if you are going to give women 100% power over it then they get 100% responsibility.

Saying something doesn't make it true.

 

[nehalem256]

Saying something doesn't make it true.

So you deny that women control all of the most effective forms of reversible contraception?

You deny that a woman has 100% power over whether a fetus becomes a child? And that men have none?

You think men can get abortions?

Have you and Todd Akin been smoking the same weed?

 

[Charles Kozierok]

It is an equally reasonable position to say that men and women have equal power over the fetus and equal responsibility. But if you are going to give women 100% power over it then they get 100% responsibility.

Only in your misogynistic dream (nightmare) world.

 

[nehalem256]

Only in your misogynistic dream (nightmare) world.

Equality is a nightmare huh. Well that certainly explains a lot.

 

[alzan]

I said all of the most effective reversible forms of birth control were controlled by women. Unless you are suggesting that men start lacing women's cereal with birth control pills or jamming IUDs up their vagina's they HAVE to be responsible for them.

There is no reason part of responsibility is not getting your bf to help pay for said BC. And if he wont he is clearly a jerk and someone she should not be having sex with.



It is the viewpoint of everyone who is not a radical right-wing republican. So unless you are pro-life it should be.

Just go ahead and admit that you wished you had been born a woman. Who wouldn't want to get their fair share of menstrual cramping & bloating, of yeast infections and vaginal discharge and that special lower backache that comes from being especially well-endowed. And pregnancy; that's golden: swelled ankles and legs, that well endowed rack growing even more, nipple discharge, night sweats and morning sickness, constipation and incessant bladder emptying. And horny, honey you'll be ready to go all night long. Any man within your grasp will be ridden hard and put away wet in your 5-7 month long quest to satiate your rampant sexual desire.

I know, I know; I've got you emerald green with jealousy. Let your rage build to a peak for your next vitriolic tirade against the fairer sex. We all feel your pain, dude.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Equality is a nightmare huh. Well that certainly explains a lot.

Making women responsible for birth control and pregnancy and carrying or aborting fetuses, and men responsible for nothing, is not equality.

The fact that you even consider your position to be anywhere near "equality" really speaks volumes about how warped your worldview truly is.

 

[OrByte]

These two both signed the federal personhood bill

OOooooOOOOO unfortunate picture for Ryan.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Because men cannot get abortions.

Men can have cancerous tumors removed from their bodies at their own behest.

Men get no (or very little) power and so have consequently little responsibility.

You're right, men are not responsible for incubating a fetus. Did you discover this all by yourself, big guy?

A woman is free to abort a man's fetus without his consent.

Because what she does with her body is her business, and no business of any man's or any fetus's. WTF would she need his consent for? Do you have to ask permission to get your teeth pulled?

But I guess other people having the power to destroy your stuff is scot-free huh?

I completely support your right to take over gestational responsibilities from any woman who no longer wants to continue her pregnancy. We'll remove the fetus from her and stick it in you, sound good?

It is an equally reasonable position to say that men and women have equal power over the fetus and equal responsibility. But if you are going to give women 100% power over it then they get 100% responsibility.

See, the problem here is that you do not view women as people. You see them as incubators. Idle baby factories, meant to process a man's input and deliver him the output. A woman's personal bodily rights simply do not exist in your view. That is why people point out how pathetically and despicably misogynistic you are. You have a pathetic and despicable hatred of women.

Maybe mommy didn't cuddle you enough, or maybe the pretty girl laughed at you when you asked her to dance in junior high... whatever it was, it's time to grow up and realize that women are people, too. If you want to go have your appendix removed, or donate a kidney, or excise a mole, or pierce your nipple, you get to decide that on your own. Nobody can force you to give your brother one of your kidneys. Nobody can put holes in your ears without your express permission. When you understand why you have the right to say "no" to kidney donation or an appendectomy, you'll understand why women have the right to terminate their pregnancy.

Unfortunately, that will only be possible when you realize that women are people, and you don't seem like the type that learns very fast.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I'm not sure which is more ridiculous, what he said, or people trying to act like this thinking is mainstream in the GOP.

How many GOP wackjobs do you need to see before that conclusion becomes justified?

Sarah Palin
Michelle Bachman
Akin
Etc.
Etc.

 

[Oric]

Tell that to the women of Bosnia

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

The mainstream GOP has been corrupted by the extremists. I don't see any moderate or centrist POVs even allowed into the discussion anymore.

If the GOP doesn't realign itself, it is doomed to fail on the national stage for a long time coming.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

You'd think so, but...

After all that Akin STILL leads McCaskill, 44-43. Little difference from our last poll which was Akin 45-44

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/237740225919610880

 

[nextJin]

I hope he drops put, too.

What is a "proud libertarian"?

Someone who was a libertarian well before Republicans thought it would be cool to say they are libertarian. Unlike someone's post earlier, Republicans are in no way trying to pass on their evil libertarian ideals onto Americans. Republicans are trying to legislate everyone's lives just as much as Democrats.

 

[nehalem256]

Just go ahead and admit that you wished you had been born a woman. Who wouldn't want to get their fair share of menstrual cramping & bloating, of yeast infections and vaginal discharge and that special lower backache that comes from being especially well-endowed. And pregnancy; that's golden: swelled ankles and legs, that well endowed rack growing even more, nipple discharge, night sweats and morning sickness, constipation and incessant bladder emptying. And horny, honey you'll be ready to go all night long. Any man within your grasp will be ridden hard and put away wet in your 5-7 month long quest to satiate your rampant sexual desire.

I know, I know; I've got you emerald green with jealousy. Let your rage build to a peak for your next vitriolic tirade against the fairer sex. We all feel your pain, dude.

Hey, at least they dont have periods

 

[nehalem256]

Making women responsible for birth control and pregnancy and carrying or aborting fetuses, and men responsible for nothing, is not equality.

The fact that you even consider your position to be anywhere near "equality" really speaks volumes about how warped your worldview truly is.

And how should I make men responsible for birth control. Should we make it legal for men to inject women with depoprovera without their consent so that men can be responsible too?

Men cannot carry fetus.

Because of this women can the say over whether to bring a fetus to term. And must then be responsible for the consequences of said choice.

For some reason it is always the fetus is always always the woman's body, until it comes time for responsiblity and then it is the man's too

EDIT: And the whole birth control thing is irrelevant. Since sex does not create a child it creates a zygote, which is just a ball of cells. A woman is the one who gets 100% choice of whether a zygote becomes a child, and should therefore be 100% responsible for the child she choose to create.

But if we follow your logic. So if a guy uses a condom and therefore "takes responsibility" in your view should he be able to abdicate all responsibility for the child the woman chooses to create?

See, the problem here is that you do not view women as people. You see them as incubators. Idle baby factories, meant to process a man's input and deliver him the output. A woman's personal bodily rights simply do not exist in your view. That is why people point out how pathetically and despicably misogynistic you are. You have a pathetic and despicable hatred of women.

So because I expect women to be responsible for themselves that means I dont think they are people

No. In fact it is YOU who does not view men as people. But rather a slave that exists merely to serve women.

 

[Linux23]

wow, i hope and pray that this fucking idiot just made a slip of the tongue.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I heard his apology ad this morning...looks like he's going to make a go of it despite party pressure to resign. He still leads the polls Akin 44%, McCaskill 43%.

 

[feralkid]

These two both signed the federal personhood bill

Signed it?

Didn't they actually co-sponsor it?

 

[K1052]

I heard his apology ad this morning...looks like he's going to make a go of it despite party pressure to resign. He still leads the polls Akin 44%, McCaskill 43%.

The biggest problem now is that the RNC and superPACs are pulling their money out of the race. McCaskill has already out raised Akin 10 to 1, he needed that money to see him through the election.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

So because I expect women to be responsible for themselves that means I dont think they are people

You expect women to be responsible for *everything* associated with sex and reproduction. You want men to be free to have sex with whomever they want, whenever they want, as often as they want, and for women to take care of everything associated with birth control, pregnancy, childbirth and/or abortion.

In another thread, you claimed that pregnancy occurs when "a woman allows" a man to ejaculate inside of her. You revealed in that sentence everything that you are about: even the male orgasm is twisted around to be the woman's responsibility.