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chowderhead

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Darwin333 said:
Frankly, he is much more consistent than the majority of pro-lifers. I might not agree with his stance but he gets a few points from me for being consistent.

As I said, if you believe abortion is actually murder of an innocent person why would you make exceptions in which what you believe is the murder or an innocent person is "ok"?
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Romney is certainly rubbing off on Ryan. He just flipped on the issue and now DOES support an exception for rape. See their press release disagreeing with Akin's interview.
 
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Phokus said:
Maybe you need to:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nationalism?s=t

excessive patriotism; chauvinism.

That's the definition i use.
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Ignoring the 3 other ?

1. national spirit or aspirations.

2. devotion and loyalty to one's own nation; patriotism.

3. excessive patriotism; chauvinism.

4. the desire for national advancement or independence.

5. the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation, viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.

I don't think you will get many people to believe Nationalism/Patriotism is necessarily a bad thing, much less is what is bankrupting country. If we had a little more Nationalism maybe people whould stop buying so much imported crap and we could put Americans back to work.
 
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boy...this guy really stepped in it.

He is throwing the national dialogue off track...I bet Mitt has gotta be pissed
 
Phokus

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Matt1970 said:
Ignoring the 3 other ?

1. national spirit or aspirations.

2. devotion and loyalty to one's own nation; patriotism.

3. excessive patriotism; chauvinism.

4. the desire for national advancement or independence.

5. the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation, viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.

I don't think you will get many people to believe Nationalism/Patriotism is necessarily a bad thing, much less is what is bankrupting country. If we had a little more Nationalism maybe people whould stop buying so much imported crap and we could put Americans back to work.
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Patriotism usually has a positive connotation, Nationalism is usually used more in a negative connotation. And i obviously didn't use the word incorrectly.

And yes, i do think when nationalist idiots cheer on unnecessary wars that costs trillions of dollars, i do think that is bankrupting the country, but financially and morally.
 
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nehalem256

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Phokus said:
Patriotism usually has a positive connotation, Nationalism is usually used more in a negative connotation. And i obviously didn't use the word incorrectly.

And yes, i do think when nationalist idiots cheer on unnecessary wars that costs trillions of dollars, i do think that is bankrupting the country, but financially and morally.
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so really

Phokus said:
Oh yeah, i'm totally out of line for calling out the party of racism, xenophobia, nationalism, homophobia, misogyny, anti-intellectualism, torture, and war.
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War and nationalism are redundant.

And its not like Democrats have never got us involved in any unnecessary wars *cough*Vietnam *cough*
 
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Somebody put the nuts back in this teabagger's mouth. Thank god the president settled rape is indeed rape. Their is no rape panel determination...yet.
 
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Siddhartha

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Gonad the Barbarian said:
So says this medical expert and expected Senator-to-be:

Too bad the female body doesn't have biological defenses against birthing morons. More and vid at link:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/todd-akin-legitimate-rape.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
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This is the logical conclusion of the anti-abortionist's rationale for justifying that abortion, under any circumstances, is unacceptable.

Included in this rationale are components of men controlling a woman's ability to decide who she has sex with and a woman's ability to control when she has children.

I can see men voting for this especially if they do not have to pay taxes to care for unwanted children. But why would a woman vote for this?
 
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nehalem256 said:
3.) Yes they do. They are free to marry anyone of the opposite sex

4.) Women are not paid the less for the exact same job. The 77cents statistics that liberals so widely quote fails to take into account the job or experience. You are essentially alleging a conspiracy theory that has spanned for decades involving every corporation(including those RUN BY WOMEN) to pay men more for the same work.

And contraceptives are available at many fine retailers. What they want is to force men to purchase contraceptives for "independent" women they are not having sex with.
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Not all women can safely use the generic birth control available at Walmart, etc. I have no problem with insurance companies including womens reproductive health needs in the policies they sell since I know that the pooled coverage insurance companies use keep the costs low for everyone concerned.

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mizzou said:
Missourian's are some of the most enigmatic political people I've ever known

Always capable of making the best and worst decisions, but with no predictability.
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I know there's a "Proud to be a Missourian" in there somewhere but danged if I can find it.

Oh well, proud either way.
 
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nehalem256

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Siddhartha said:
Included in this rationale are components of men controlling a woman's ability to decide who she has sex with and a woman's ability to control when she has children.
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And this differs from how Liberals treat men how?

According to liberals women should be able to have sex with whomever she pleases without fear of having to be a mother.

But if a woman CHOOSES to be a mother she has to the power to force a man to be responsible for her choice.

So why would any man vote democrat?
 
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nehalem256

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alzan said:
Not all women can safely use the generic birth control available at Walmart, etc. I have no problem with insurance companies including womens reproductive health needs in the policies they sell since I know that the pooled coverage insurance companies use keep the costs low for everyone concerned.

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Yeah Im pretty sure condoms can be used by everyone.

And obviously you have never read the ACA which forced men to subsidize the health insurance for "independent" women.

And don't forget how BC is treated as a privileged class of medication that must be available without co-pay.
 
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a777pilot said:
He said he misspoke.

If you don't like him then don't vote for him. There, that was easy.

Thankfully, no Democrat has ever said anything so stupid as this.
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what he said warrants outrage. misspoke... you realize that is the same thing as saying "ive been completely exposed and have no excuse for it, i plead no contest"

in any case, this guy is total scum and should be banned from any type of public service.
 
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nehalem256 said:
So I assume this mean that when liberals force men to pay child support to women, because they CHOOSE,to have a child, that they are punishing men for being promiscuous? :sneaky:
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Why are you turning this into a Liberal vs Conservative fight when its an issue of women's productive rights vs old men that don't know anything?

Not everything falls in the conservative vs liberal debate.
 
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nehalem256

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kia75 said:
Why are you turning this into a Liberal vs Conservative fight when its an issue of women's productive rights vs old men that don't know anything?

Not everything falls in the conservative vs liberal debate.
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I would think its an issue of ignorant old men. Women's reproductive "right"s have nothing to do with it. You brought them up and I called out your liberal hypocrisy about applying the same standard that those ignorant old men have for women onto men.

Sorry if being called on your hypocrisy upsets you.
 
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