Dissenting opinions are one thing. I'm all for em. What gets tiring (on both sides) is the manor in which they're presented. I don't feel you have done a good job in presenting what I can only assume to be your opinions. In my opinion, your style of posting shoots your arguments in the foot. We've seen other people that come in with dissenting opinions yet there often appears to be some real work going on from behind the scenes. I respect that.
I love seeing somebody (anybody) step up and admit where they were wrong, misunderstood, or otherwise misinformed. That speaks volumes. Coming in to dump some propoganda and often standing by the info, regardless of whether it's been shown as false and/or misleading is just bad ju-ju and speaks volumes (of doo-doo).
You got a point to make? Great, I'll listen. Seriously, I will. But you're going to have to put in a little footwork if you want me to take it at all seriously. You just want to dump something from lifenews (I'm sorry, it's just so often not worth the read), at least give some commentary.
As for the post-and-run accusations. I'm not sure I understand why the heck that matters. You're posting what you consider relevant political and/or newsworthy articles from around the net. Fine, great, whatever. Personally, I'd much rather there be discussion with such articles brought up as basis for why folks think the way they do.
EXman
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OMG I hope you are kidding us. Wow that is just plain assbackwards.
"Reporting for duty"
Remind you of anything?
Were those Celeberties on stage with him as he was saying that?
No those were veterans.
Kerry Thinks his copycat pseudo JFK experience in 'Nam and his Position on the Senate Intelligence committee that he doesn't bother attending give him the goods to be the President.
I'm not happy with alot of what Bush and even less of Chaingangey but the 2 Johns are the Far left Micheale Moore types that I personally don't care for.
I'm not a liberal, in fact, I'm more conservative (except for social issues: Abortion, gay rights, etc.).
This is a classic conservative: Fiscally responsible, small government, strict interpretation of the constitution ...
I don't like bush because he isn't fiscally responsible, this is the largest government we've ever had (he has yet to veto ANY spending bill), and he wnats to create an amendment to the constitution that in effect discriminates. I'm not ecstatic about Kerry, but he's definitely a better choice than Bush in my mind (and McCain would own him in 2008). We aren't banning free speech, it's just that your posts don't get anything accomplished. If you had a more open mind, or posted things that weren't forced down our throats (ie, ideas, but not op-ed pieces), then we wouldn't be talking about no one responding to your threads.
EDIT: I'm not being a hypocrite by responding to this, I'm merely suggesting just ignoring your future posts/threads and if we do that, you won't have any incentive to post any more. I am being idealistic and this won't happen but hey, why not?
TuxDave
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I dunno about you, but I'm not gonna elect someone based purely on his military record. You're completely right on that part, military action does not equate to being a good leader. So why hasn't the Bush administration denounced the swiftboat veterens yet? Kerry has denounced the most recent ad that attacked Bush because he realized that this is just mindless slander. Why hasn't the Bush campaign done the same? It's because the Bush campaign WANTS this crap in the political fire.
Liberals are for free speech if it fits their agenda..otherwise they are against it...
Kerry believes the same thing..
Don Vito Corleone
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I honestly can't think of one liberal poster who combines Rip's defining attributes:
1) Constantly posts "news" stories from laughably biased sources
2) Refuses to engage in any debate on the issues, preferring instead to copy-and-paste more propaganda
3) Fabricates "information" favorable to his philosophies.
FWIW, I also can't think of one liberal poster who exhibits your distinctive brand of open racism. You, too, are a powerful advocate for whatever you happen to be arguing against, because your own closed-mindedness and hatred always come through.
The quote was merely in relation to this forum, a privately-run forum. Free speech truly does not apply here.
Nicely disingenuous, HS-
"Liberals are for free speech if it fits their agenda..otherwise they are against it..."
Free speech has a price, too, which can be very high in the case of slander or libel...
And, as one of the frequent proponents of personal responsibility, when it fits your agenda, you should be able to recognize the implications to the publisher.
I'm not particularly surprised that you'd support the FUD inherent in Rip's title and summary, either- there's no ban, merely a demand to cease and desist.. Those copies already in print will exist for a long time, probably used as spooge targets by the far right, passed around and traded like porn in prison...
So, uhh, what would you think about reprinting "The Anarchist's cookbook" or other similar works, for example? Or maybe some very unflattering books about CkG's hero, Reagan, that are now out of print?
"Liberals are for free speech if it fits their agenda..otherwise they are against it..."
Free speech has a price, too, which can be very high in the case of slander or libel...
And, as one of the frequent proponents of personal responsibility, when it fits your agenda, you should be able to recognize the implications to the publisher.
I'm not particularly surprised that you'd support the FUD inherent in Rip's title and summary, either- there's no ban, merely a demand to cease and desist.. Those copies already in print will exist for a long time, probably used as spooge targets by the far right, passed around and traded like porn in prison...
So, uhh, what would you think about reprinting "The Anarchist's cookbook" or other similar works, for example? Or maybe some very unflattering books about CkG's hero, Reagan, that are now out of print?
Uh-huh, and the Bushwhackos would have John Asscroft define and limit it, corner the market on whatever was left, secretly give a monopoly license for it to Haliburton, who would, in turn, create seventeen separate, secretly interlinked offshore subdivisions in the Bahamas for trading in speech and speech futures, shipping it back and forth across the country, adding a profit for each transfer, and selling it back to us for billions.
Of course, they'd lobby the administration to make sure their income for this venture was tax free, or better yet government subsidized, because they were the only ones capable of providing a commodity essential to our "American way of life"... Free speech.
Originally posted by: Harvey
Uh-huh, and the Bushwhackos would have John Asscroft define and limit it, corner the market on whatever was left, secretly give a monopoly license for it to Haliburton, who would, in turn, create seventeen separate, secretly interlinked offshore subdivisions in the Bahamas for trading in speech and speech futures, shipping it back and forth across the country, adding a profit for each transfer, and selling it back to us for billions.
Of course, they'd lobby the administration to make sure their income for this venture was tax free, or better yet government subsidized, because they were the only ones capable of providing a commodity essential to our "American way of life"... Free speech.
Who's for banning books? Hint: It's not Bush or Ashcroft.
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Uh-huh, and the Bushwhackos would have John Asscroft define and limit it, corner the market on whatever was left, secretly give a monopoly license for it to Haliburton, who would, in turn, create seventeen separate, secretly interlinked offshore subdivisions in the Bahamas for trading in speech and speech futures, shipping it back and forth across the country, adding a profit for each transfer, and selling it back to us for billions.
Of course, they'd lobby the administration to make sure their income for this venture was tax free, or better yet government subsidized, because they were the only ones capable of providing a commodity essential to our "American way of life"... Free speech.
Who's for banning books? Hint: It's not Bush or Ashcroft.
If it's filled with libelous lies, me.
Don Vito Corleone
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Nobody's for "banning books," you numbskull, notwithstanding your empty-headed and inaccurate headline.
Well it does seem he wants to keep the books off the market. So I am not sure what the difference is.
My crystal ball says of the alternative reality -
Senator Kerry what are you running from! Why won't you discuss your 4 month second tour of duty in Vietnam. What are you hiding!
That is exactly right. Why doesn't Bush go after m moore for F9/11? There must be a reason? I wonder what it is?
What has been Kerry's reaction to the charges of the Swiftboat vets:
"Threats, intimidation, hidden documents (Kerry still refuses to release his military service documents) and character assassinations (the Kerry campaign and the DNC appear to be waging war on the truth) seem to be the mainstay of the Kerry campaign. Bear in mind, these Swiftboat Veterans served WITH Kerry, not UNDER him. They have never stated anything else."
And you're worried about Ashcroft and Bush?
Does it hurt to be in dire need of a brain? I guess without a brain you can't feel anything so you don't know.
Dmcowen is almost a carbon copy of rip, just on the other side. And he posts more. umbrella and conjur are no better. In fact, I'd take it a step further, as Rip doesn't feel the need to insult the opposite side on such a frequent basis.
As for comparison to me, some of your liberal friends have dismissed Bush voters as uneducated, brainwashed, moronic, and many other variations of these. And that includes nearly half the country. I don't consider myself right winged anyway. FWIW, I don't hate anybody.
Perhaps you don't realize what the posters I mentioned do as you agree with them.
Ain't that the truth. Thsi guy ranks right up there with the elite of the mindless robots. I sure wouldn't want him operating on me. If he knew you were a Demo he'd kill you on the table.
Kerry will kick your mindless leaders A$$ when the debate comes. That is if the chicken (who isn't afraid to send others to their deaths) has enough guts to debate him.
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