KERRY CAMPAIGN CALLS FOR BOOK BAN!

Riprorin

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From Drudge:

The Kerry campaign calls on a publisher to 'withdraw book' written by group of veterans, claiming veterans are lying about Kerry's service in Vietnam and operating as a front organization for Bush. Kerry campaign has told Salon.com that the publisher of UNFIT FOR COMMAND is 'retailing a hoax'... 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,' Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag... Developing...
 

Todd33

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Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies. But I'm happy, all of this swift boat stuff is only hurting Bush and the Republicans.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe he's suing them, is he? I wonder why . . .
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies. But I'm happy, all of this swift boat stuff is only hurting Bush and the Republicans.

Werd.



Book burning? Geez, Rip. Can you let the hyperbole rest for just *one* day?


Guess not.
 
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Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe he's suing them, is he? I wonder why . . .

..because his legal advisor just got busted with a hooker?
 

Gravity

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Could certain "thoughts" be banned next?

Hmm....maybe that's Kerry's plan for bringing our nation to the next level, thought policing.
 

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies. But I'm happy, all of this swift boat stuff is only hurting Bush and the Republicans.



Libel.

Slander is said
Libel is written.
 

DefRef

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies. But I'm happy, all of this swift boat stuff is only hurting Bush and the Republicans.
Does it hurt to be in such dire need of a laxative?

Bush has been slammed by countless books, a unified media assault and Michael Moore's pack of lies and hasn't complained or demanded anything by withdrawn, but "Mr. War Hero", when asked about what he's made the centerpiece of his existance - you'd think he'd spent 20 years in Viet Nam and only 4 months in Congress - his reaction is to cry, whine, unleashed the media dogs and whimper some more and refuse to release the records that could settle these charges once and for all. If the facts are on his side, why isn't he nuking them with the facts instead of doing what he's doing?

Could it be it's because he's been lying all along? (Duh.) Kerry is a feckless crapweasel and it's telling that if he freaks out over simple questions like this, that if we're ever attacked again, he'll be unable to do anything by cry and say he was in Viet Nam and run the the UN. Loser.

BTW: I'm not voting for Bush, so you can just stuff those arguments right now.
 

burnedout

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<Charles Johnson>"Drudge reports that the party of free speech and liberalism is now trying to ban books."</Charles Johnson>

Oh the irony of it all. :p
 
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:roll:

Of course, there's no way Matt Drudge would misrepresent a story like this . . . this is the same man who reported that Kerry had selected Hilary Clinton as his running mate.
 
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Originally posted by: burnedout
<Charles Johnson>"Drudge reports that the party of free speech and liberalism is now trying to ban books."</Charles Johnson>

Oh the irony of it all. :p

...feels like we are back in Deutschland, eh? :) They should make a counter request: If he releases his book (with the cover mocking soldiers) with his 'I hate Veteran's Day and all that it stands for' quote, they'll pull the ad :) Or, more simply, sign the SF-180 and put a fork in this issue...what does he have to hide [dental records?]
 

burnedout

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Great seeing you back, Galt. LOL, burning books ain't too cool.

Honestly though, I don't know if the Drudge Report is true or not.
 

Todd33

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"There are all kinds of atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages."

Maybe you should change you stupid lying sig xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx, not that your kind is known for honesty. Welcome back? Ya, we need more rabid Savage-esque people here to ruin the legitimate debate and discussions.
 

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Originally posted by: Ethex
Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies. But I'm happy, all of this swift boat stuff is only hurting Bush and the Republicans.



Libel.

Slander is said
Libel is written.

LOL, my wife and I were arguing about whether or not libel is written or spoken. She seemed to think that slander could be written as well. You know how I had to prove it to her???

I had to put on the scene with J. Jonah Jameson in Spiderman. :laugh:
 

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the single best thing for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is that Kerry denounced them....

if he had ignored them, or sent his minions out to bad mouth them..in two weeks it would have all been over (does anyone even remember Richard Clarke's book anymore?). Nobody is talking about Moore's film anymore either.

by "rising to the bait" and denouncing the Swift Boaties himself, Kerry has legitimized the story for the "liberal media" and has prolonged the newscycle of this event.

to "put this to rest" Kerry should authorize the release of all his military records...

this "should" vindicate him and silence the Swift Boat dudes.....

i wonder why he hasn't done that yet???
 

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Hey, how about this, whenever rip posts something, if you have any shred of intelligence, don't reply! That way, no one will ever make a big deal out of his posts (only the idiots will reply). There is no point in trying to argue with him since his mind is made up, why bother?

JUST STOP RESPONDING TO STUPID THREADS. Or Hijack them
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
the single best thing for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is that Kerry denounced them....

if he had ignored them, or sent his minions out to bad mouth them..in two weeks it would have all been over (does anyone even remember Richard Clarke's book anymore?). Nobody is talking about Moore's film anymore either.

by "rising to the bait" and denouncing the Swift Boaties himself, Kerry has legitimized the story for the "liberal media" and has prolonged the newscycle of this event.

to "put this to rest" Kerry should authorize the release of all his military records...

this "should" vindicate him and silence the Swift Boat dudes.....

i wonder why he hasn't done that yet???

Yeah...and if Kerry *didn't* respond you'd call him a coward for not responding.

You're just a banal, partisan hack.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: conjur

Yeah...and if Kerry *didn't* respond you'd call him a coward for not responding.

You're just a banal, partisan hack.

Probably, but it's true that he would have given up after a week or two and moved on to some new complaint ;)
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Hey, how about this, whenever rip posts something, if you have any shred of intelligence, don't reply! That way, no one will ever make a big deal out of his posts (only the idiots will reply). There is no point in trying to argue with him since his mind is made up, why bother?

JUST STOP RESPONDING TO STUPID THREADS. Or Hijack them

At least you're not trying to get me to banned like other libs here so there's signs of progress.

What don't you libs understand about the first ammendment right to free speech?

Why doesn't Kerry and his supporters respond to the charges against him rather than trying to silence everyone who challenges his account? Is it perhaps because you/he CAN'T?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Todd33
Well, slander is illegal. I would sue too if someone wrote a book about me full of lies. But I'm happy, all of this swift boat stuff is only hurting Bush and the Republicans.

Werd.



Book burning? Geez, Rip. Can you let the hyperbole rest for just *one* day?


Guess not.

From Howard Dean:

"I think a library trustee is a pretty important job" - and that's because the Bush administration "likes book-burning more than reading books."

Funny, I don't see George Bush trying to ban the more than 50 books that are critical of him, nor did I see him try to bam Michael Moore's movie.

Seems to me that John Kerry is much greater threat to our right to free speech than George Bush.
 

conjur

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Because the books out about Bush aren't filled with lies from the lying liars that tell them.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: conjur
Because the books out about Bush aren't filled with lies from the lying liars that tell them.

So what you are saying, is you support banning of books that have lies in them. Thanks for clarifying.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
the single best thing for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is that Kerry denounced them....

if he had ignored them, or sent his minions out to bad mouth them..in two weeks it would have all been over (does anyone even remember Richard Clarke's book anymore?). Nobody is talking about Moore's film anymore either.

by "rising to the bait" and denouncing the Swift Boaties himself, Kerry has legitimized the story for the "liberal media" and has prolonged the newscycle of this event.
You may be in for a rude shock on that score. Larry Thurlow's credibility has been thoroughly thrashed.
In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came under fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March 13, 1969. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.

But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released yesterday to The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act, contain several references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won his own Bronze Star that day, and the citation praises him for providing assistance to a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."
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A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG THURLOW completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the disabled boat and its crew. The citation states that all other units in the flotilla also came under fire.
I watched Thurlow last night on Hardball. Chris Matthews asked him if he had ONE piece of hard evidence to support his allegations. He admitted HE HAD NONE! All he has is "what he knows," but what he "knows" is not supported by a single piece of documentation. Meanwhile, Kerry's wounds and subsequent awards have been fully documented for the last thirty years.

Why should anyone believe politically motivated bullsh8 from this prick with no evidence, then or now? :roll:

Lt. Cmdr George Elliot, Kerry's former commanding officer, has flipped and flopped at least four times. As reported in The Boston Globe:
  • In 1996, Elliot praised Kerry for his bravery defended Kerry, saying he deserved the Silver Star.
  • Elliot appears as one of the Swift Boat Vets denouncing Kerry, claiming he questions whether Kerry should have been given some of his combat medals.
  • Elliot tells Boston Globe reporter, Michael Kranish, he had made a "terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit suggesting Kerry did not deserve to be awarded the Silver Star.
  • Elliott released another affidavit yesterday backing away from his comments this week to the Globe, saying the reporter, Michael Kranish, misquoted him.
  • Globe Editor Martin Baron released a statement saying "the Globe stands by the article. The quotes attributed to Mr. Elliott were on the record and absolutely accurate."
Dr. Louis Letson, the doctor who claims to have treated Kerry's wound that won him the first of three Purple Hearts, has similar credibility problems. Letson's name does not appears on the records of Kerry's medical treatment for that wound. Did he treat Kerry? Was he even in the same building? There is NO documentation to confirm his statement. Why should anyone believe him? :p

With any luck, at least some part of the American electorate will recognize these frauds for what they are, pissant lying weasels with a petty political agenda! :|
to "put this to rest" Kerry should authorize the release of all his military records...

this "should" vindicate him and silence the Swift Boat dudes.....

i wonder why he hasn't done that yet???
Great idea. And while we're at it, let's get all of Bush's military records out, too. Maybe the sniveling little chickenhawk really did show up at summer camp and fly airplanes, instead of flying the coop. So far, nothing in his military records support that. :shocked:
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: NJDevil
Hey, how about this, whenever rip posts something, if you have any shred of intelligence, don't reply! That way, no one will ever make a big deal out of his posts (only the idiots will reply). There is no point in trying to argue with him since his mind is made up, why bother?

JUST STOP RESPONDING TO STUPID THREADS. Or Hijack them

At least you're not trying to get me to banned like other libs here so there's signs of progress.

What don't you libs understand about the first ammendment right to free speech?

Why doesn't Kerry and his supporters respond to the charges against him rather than trying to silence everyone who challenges his account? Is it perhaps because you/he CAN'T?
One thing is for sure, you almost single handedly have lowered the bar of this forum which is a real accomplishment when one considers how low it was before you started posting all your inflamatory hyperbolic talking point threads.