Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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Maxima1

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I think he may have to be confirmed now, if only to drive home the notion that eleventh-hour smear campaigns won't work, so please don't do it again. As I've repeatedly mentioned, if these accusations had real weight and merit, they needed to come out between 2003 and 2006, during Kavanaugh's lengthy and contentious DC Circuit nomination.

I wish there were more substantive reasons to deny this guy the nomination, he does seem the epitome of Ivy League, silver spoon, entitled brat, with little in the way to redeem those negative attributes.

More substantive? Bullshit. There's a lot suggesting that he's guilty, and the standard obviously shouldn't be "beyond a reasonable doubt". He's not entitled to the court, and there are plenty of others who do not have these issues Kavanaugh has. And the allegations are just one of the several reasons to dismiss him. He has committed so many proven perjuries it's beyond absurd. We're careening towards an autocratic government with this bullshit.
 
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umbrella39

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I think he may have to be confirmed now, if only to drive home the notion that eleventh-hour smear campaigns won't work, so please don't do it again. As I've repeatedly mentioned, if these accusations had real weight and merit, they needed to come out between 2003 and 2006, during Kavanaugh's lengthy and contentious DC Circuit nomination.

I wish there were more substantive reasons to deny this guy the nomination, he does seem the epitome of Ivy League, silver spoon, entitled brat, with little in the way to redeem those negative attributes.

Not so sure your timeline issue is a valid excuse. Perhaps she didn't know about his Circuit nom back then. I didn't know about this guy until Trump nominated him and I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the country had no inkling of his Circuit court nomination back then either...
 

umbrella39

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Be careful what you wish for. Kavanaugh's nomination (which I believe will happen this week) could spell a lot of problems for the GOP. No reason for a "red wave" if white males retain their privilege... and if the Democrats take both the Senate and the House Trump will be in a world of hurt.

Indeed.

He'll probably get the nod later in the week. I could care less how much he did or didn't drink or whether he lied about it. Don't really care if he was an ass bandit back then. This happened well before pics or gtfo days so... no proof yet that would indicate the GOP is going to do anything other than push him through...

What IS concerning... is his freak out in front of the entire world though. His persecution complex, paranoia, and his opinion of "the left" should disqualify him or any other person who is supposed to at least pretend to be impartial...

Pretend to be impartial and I wouldn't have cared as I know that all this is is the GOP hail mary before population trends and live births relegates them to the kids table. Stack the courts all they want. This is not going to end well for them...
 

IronWing

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I wish there were more substantive reasons to deny this guy the nomination, he does seem the epitome of Ivy League, silver spoon, entitled brat, with little in the way to redeem those negative attributes.
You mean like squandering tax dollars "investigating" Hillary murdering Vince Foster? How about providing cover for Bush's war crimes? Is that enough? Where are the 100k pages of documents that the White House and Senate Republicans don't want the American people to see?
 

Maxima1

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He'll probably get the nod later in the week. I could care less how much he did or didn't drink or whether he lied about it. Don't really care if he was an ass bandit back then. This happened well before pics or gtfo days so... no proof yet that would indicate the GOP is going to do anything other than push him through...

What IS concerning... is his freak out in front of the entire world though. His persecution complex, paranoia, and his opinion of "the left" should disqualify him or any other person who is supposed to at least pretend to be impartial...

Pretend to be impartial and I wouldn't have cared as I know that all this is is the GOP hail mary before population trends and live births relegates them to the kids table. Stack the courts all they want. This is not going to end well for them...

How is it not concerning that he was lying under oath? Oh, and a lot of his past does matter. The douchebag behavior predicts douchebag behavior.
 

crashtech

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You mean like squandering tax dollars "investigating" Hillary murdering Vince Foster? How about providing cover for Bush's war crimes? Is that enough? Where are the 100k pages of documents that the White House and Senate Republicans don't want the American people to see?
Nobody cares about that stuff, hence the ginned-up 36 year old sex allegations that many people not blinded by hatred of the right can see right through.
 

Maxima1

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Nobody cares about that stuff, hence the ginned-up 36 year old sex allegations that many people not blinded by hatred of the right can see right through.

You mean the authoritarian right doesn't care. People like you are the reason why places like Putin's Russia exist.
 

ecogen

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Nobody cares about that stuff, hence the ginned-up 36 year old sex allegations that many people not blinded by hatred of the right can see right through.

Republicans don't care about that stuff, don't lump everyone else in with you retards.
 

IronWing

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Nobody cares about that stuff, hence the ginned-up 36 year old sex allegations that many people not blinded by hatred of the right can see right through.
Perjury is a-okay with "people not blinded by hatred of the right"?
 

Jhhnn

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I wish there were more substantive reasons to deny this guy the nomination, he does seem the epitome of Ivy League, silver spoon, entitled brat, with little in the way to redeem those negative attributes.

Lying about it should be enough, don't you think? Claiming to have been a choir boy destroys his credibility entirely.
 

crashtech

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Lying about it should be enough, don't you think? Claiming to have been a choir boy destroys his credibility entirely.
Maybe? But I can remember history, and therefore can comfortably say that nearly if not all of the line of attack against this nominee is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy. I know I can remember a prominent politician who lied under oath and nobody seemed to care.
 
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ivwshane

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Maybe? But I can remember history, and therefore can comfortably say that nearly if not all of the line of attack against this nominee is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy. I know I can remember a prominent politician who lied under oath and nobody seemed to care.

Was that person being nominated for a lifetime appointment? Was that person being investigated for unrelated allegations that produced zero results that had zero to do with the scope of the original investigation?

Yeah, I think your memory is shit, like your brains.
 

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I love when deplorables out themselves. Party before country, right crash?
It's been my observation that people expect other people to act like they do, for example a crooked boss imagines his employees are crooked also. It's a variation of projection, I suppose, sorry to see that although you barely know me that you'd fall into that trap. I do see party before country in a substantial number of posts here, though not mainly by who you call "deplorables."
 

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Was that person being nominated for a lifetime appointment? Was that person being investigated for unrelated allegations that produced zero results that had zero to do with the scope of the original investigation?

Yeah, I think your memory is shit, like your brains.
You are probably too young to remember, and like I care what you fucking think at this point.
 

Jhhnn

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Maybe? But I can remember history, and therefore can comfortably say that nearly if not all of the line of attack against this nominee is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy. I know I can remember a prominent politician who lied under oath and nobody seemed to care.

Both sides doesn't cut it. Kavanaugh has lied about the fundamental nature of who he is. The People have a right to a Justice with greater integrity than that.
 

fskimospy

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Maybe? But I can remember history, and therefore can comfortably say that nearly if not all of the line of attack against this nominee is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy. I know I can remember a prominent politician who lied under oath and nobody seemed to care.

1) Except for the whole impeachment thing that is, haha.

2) Kavanaugh isn’t lying about a consensual affair, he’s lying about conduct integral to whether accusations of him being a violent sex criminal are true.

3) I never voted for Clinton and if someone tried to appoint him to SCOTUS I would oppose it.

Only one person is nominated for the Supreme Court right now. Either he has the personal character for it or he doesn’t. Does he?
 

crashtech

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Both sides doesn't cut it. Kavanaugh has lied about the fundamental nature of who he is. The People have a right to a Justice with greater integrity than that.
What happened to the sex stuff? When did we move on to lying about beer drinking etc. as being an even more horrible character flaw? I don't even like Kavanaugh, but as basically an outside observer it appears as if the left has gone completely insane over this guy, again reminding me of history. It's about the biggest temper tantrum I've ever seen, and if it's successful, they'll only get worse and more frequent.

Personally I think I am going to revisit some historical sources regarding how the choice was made to give the POTUS power over SCOTUS nominations. I don't see a whole lot of discussion about that; if there is widespread discontent, then perhaps it's time to revisit how things are done.
 

ecogen

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What happened to the sex stuff? When did we move on to lying about beer drinking etc. as being an even more horrible character flaw? I don't even like Kavanaugh, but as basically an outside observer it appears as if the left has gone completely insane over this guy, again reminding me of history. It's about the biggest temper tantrum I've ever seen, and if it's successful, they'll only get worse and more frequent.

Personally I think I am going to revisit some historical sources regarding how the choice was made to give the POTUS power over SCOTUS nominations. I don't see a whole lot of discussion about that; if there is widespread discontent, then perhaps it's time to revisit how things are done.

Even with the huge amount of stupid shit in this thread, this might actually be number one. Congrats.
 
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fskimospy

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What happened to the sex stuff? When did we move on to lying about beer drinking etc. as being an even more horrible character flaw? I don't even like Kavanaugh, but as basically an outside observer it appears as if the left has gone completely insane over this guy, again reminding me of history. It's about the biggest temper tantrum I've ever seen, and if it's successful, they'll only get worse and more frequent.

Personally I think I am going to revisit some historical sources regarding how the choice was made to give the POTUS power over SCOTUS nominations. I don't see a whole lot of discussion about that; if there is widespread discontent, then perhaps it's time to revisit how things are done.

I’m frankly baffled as to how you could come to such a conclusion.

This is a man credibly accused of multiple drunken, violent sex crimes.

He has repeatedly and transparently lied about his drinking habits, behavior that directly relates to these crimes. (He has also perjured himself about a number of other serious issues)

Republicans refused to engage in any meaningful investigation of these crimes and now appear to be interfering with the FBI’s investigation.

I agree people have lost their minds but it’s the people who don’t care if someone about to get a lifetime appointment to an unreviewable court with enormous powers has committed violent crimes.

Just baffling.
 
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crashtech

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1) Except for the whole impeachment thing that is, haha.

2) Kavanaugh isn’t lying about a consensual affair, he’s lying about conduct integral to whether accusations of him being a violent sex criminal are true.

3) I never voted for Clinton and if someone tried to appoint him to SCOTUS I would oppose it.

Only one person is nominated for the Supreme Court right now. Either he has the personal character for it or he doesn’t. Does he?
Speaking for myself, I believe there are likely better choices even amongst nominees that the President would find acceptable. However, it's not up to me, it's up to the POTUS with Congress' consent as we all know. At this point I genuinely believe the Dem leadership has overplayed their hand, certainly it won't seem so to most of the regulars on this board, though. It's all so over the top that it has made me more suspicious instead of more credulous, and I would bet that I'm not alone even amongst, you know, "non-deplorables."