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dlerious

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I know a lot of liberals are at least somewhat frustrated with Harris spending so much time going after the Haley voters but these people exist in substantial numbers in swing state suburbia. They are overwhelmingly educated high propensity voters and thus quite valuable.

How much luck are you gonna have when Nikki is campaigning for Trump? I can see it being worthwhile if Haley supported Harris, but it seems like an exercise in futility. I'm hearing talk about 2016 - gain 2 republicans for every dem lost type bs.
 

Indus

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How much luck are you gonna have when Nikki is campaigning for Trump? I can see it being worthwhile if Haley supported Harris, but it seems like an exercise in futility. I'm hearing talk about 2016 - gain 2 republicans for every dem lost type bs.

I mean come on.. do you really think MAWA will ever back a non-white person for POTUS?

She was a protest vote.. nothing more.. but they might be up for grabs!
 

K1052

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How much luck are you gonna have when Nikki is campaigning for Trump? I can see it being worthwhile if Haley supported Harris, but it seems like an exercise in futility. I'm hearing talk about 2016 - gain 2 republicans for every dem lost type bs.

She's not campaigning for him. He's had chance after chance to rebuild that bridge but he has refused every time.

Also allow me to post a representation of what basically every Dem I know thinks about this election which is a definite departure from 2016:

 

K1052

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Pollsters suddenly all converging on ties for the race nationally sure does raise some questions. Not just about what they are doing now but what decisions they were making before. The industry is clearly terrified of another D overshoot and that could be leading to some issues.

 

nakedfrog

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Well, that and the fact that reproductive rights are hanging by a thread (where they still exist).
It's not simply reproductive rights, it's healthcare, there are women who wanted to have the children they were carrying that are suffering as a result of the draconian abortion laws. If you're someone that wants to have a baby, it's a pretty fucking heavy albatross to have around your neck not knowing whether you'll be able to access life-saving care if there are complications, or if you'll be forced to carry to term for a baby with no chance of survival.
"Oh, but you can just go to another state" the red hats will say, but anyone paying attention knows what the GOP actually thinks about that, never mind the associated complexities and expenses of doing so.
 
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"Oh, but you can just go to another state" the red hats will say, but anyone paying attention knows what the GOP actually thinks about that, never mind the associated complexities and expenses of doing so.
Go to another state. Also, we want to prosecute people that cross state lines for abortion. And also we want to ban abortion nationally. /maga
 
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K1052

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Go to another state. Also, we want to prosecute people that cross state lines for abortion. And also we want to ban abortion nationally. /maga

Trump has also promised to deploy red state national guards into blue states to do his bidding. Since he is also somebody who thinks the military should be murdering citizens for doing things he doesn't like seems like a bit of a problem.
 
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dlerious

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K1052

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The Washington Post has decided to take the cowards way out and not endorse anyone for president.

Bezos doesn't want to lose gov contracts. Downsides of relying on billionaires with sprawling interests to save legacy media.
 

Muse

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Go to another state. Also, we want to prosecute people that cross state lines for abortion. And also we want to ban abortion nationally. /maga
All for a promise of lowering inflation and launching mass deportation systems of the people poisoning our blood and eating our dogs, cats and other pets.

There's lies, there's damned lies and there's Republicans.
 

K1052

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It happened at the LA Times too. At least their chief editor resigned in protest, because they were going to issue an endorsement until the owner stepped in.

They all, probably correctly, assume if Trump wins they'll be punished directly for endorsing Harris. If Harris wins nothing will happen because she's not an authoritarian with delusions of being the next Hitler. The reputational damage for those institutions is however not repairable.
 

Brovane

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Honestly the buying experience there has gone to total shit in the past few years. Have ended up ordering from other retailers more lately because of it and sometimes its even cheaper.

I just hate having to have all these accounts from different retails. Some will allow Google Pay but some insist on making a account with them. I also appreciate with Amazon looking through my history to see what I previously ordered. I have a bad Amazon addiction and cannot seem to kick it.
 

K1052

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I just hate having to have all these accounts from different retails. Some will allow Google Pay but some insist on making a account with them. I also appreciate with Amazon looking through my history to see what I previously ordered. I have a bad Amazon addiction and cannot seem to kick it.

A lot of places are using Shop now which makes it easier. Password management on Apple devices has also improved so I don't have to look anything up.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Honestly the buying experience there has gone to total shit in the past few years. Have ended up ordering from other retailers more lately because of it and sometimes its even cheaper.

I mostly shop on ebay/ Walmart. Amazon only if I have to.. some of their stuff is still good.

What other places are you getting stuff from?

Oh and I try and avoid newegg now but sometimes they still have nice deals!