Kamala vs the Orange Felon - Presidential Race 2024 - Polls, News, Etc...

[Stokely]

Yep. Trump killed the border bill (by threatening the GOP politicians who were going to get behind it).

Harris has pointed this out, multiple times. It is not her fault that the media prefers to go with Trump's lying new daily horseshit. It's not her fault that the dipshit American public doesn't seem to care.

Anyone still blaming Harris for "the border" or "the migrant problem" after that is 100% full of shit. Trump does not want to fix, or be even seen to start fixing, "the border" before the election. That would give credit to his enemies from his point of view. The logical conclusion is that Trump voters don't give a shit about "the border" either. They are just using it as a rallying cry, like kneeling football players and trans people and commies and every other boogeyman their scared little brains get filled with.

I also think he won't give one shit about "the border" after the election either unless taking some kind of action somehow enriches him. He will not want to start mass deportation because that will tank the economy--though the people behind Project 2025 will try anyway, because they are ultra rich and they believe "the economy" is them.

I heard all the bs about strong man Trump "fixing illegal immigration" in 2016 too. What did he actually do that was different from Obama? Or Biden after him? It's a complete farce.

 

[MrSquished]

It's like every post you make is about immigrants and how they're turning "liberals" into Trumpers.

Are you also voting for Trump because you've drowned yourself in right-wing anti-immigration propaganda?

What's weird is him blaming Obama and Harris for triggering racists and fascists. That's not an Obama and Harris problem that's a fucking racist and fascist problem. I mean seriously.

 

[BoomerD]

What's weird is him blaming Obama and Harris for triggering racists and fascists. That's not an Obama and Harris problem that's a fucking racist and fascist problem. I mean seriously.

Well…if they’d jest stop being “colored”…

 

[Indus]

What's weird is him blaming Obama and Harris for triggering racists and fascists. That's not an Obama and Harris problem that's a fucking racist and fascist problem. I mean seriously.

Others are thinking it, I'm simply the one saying it..

But go ahead.. manufacture your own trumper lie of ME blaming them.. LOLs.. whatever floats your boat dude!

 

[Stokely]

No, they don't have stop being dark.

They just need to get back into their rightful place. Just like women need to get back into the kitchen in between popping out lots of anglo babies.

It's what maga means.

If Harris actively trolls people, or takes the high road, it hardly matters. They'll manufacture their own outrage. It's been that way for a long time now in this country, just getting worse with all the conspiracy junk on social media. Again, not really sure what people are expecting her to do, unless it's out-Trump Trump and 1) that won't work with Democrats and 2) nobody yet has managed to do it. Trump stands alone as a bullshit artist. He gets away with sounding like a mental fool and nobody else would.

The fact that someone like Trump with his politics can even sniff the election tells me how fucked we all are. If he wins, it likely won't be someone like me that will really feel it (middle class white dude who can recite the Christian horseshit having grown up with it). I vote for and donate to his opponent, and cut off contact with idiots more and more to stay sane.

 

[Indus]

Well…if they’d jest stop being “colored”…

Ding ding ding..

Sadly I vividly remember one co-worker of mine saying in 2008.. if Obama had a white wife, he wouldn't have a problem with him.. but he didn't like uppity Michelle.

I remember saying to his face.. man that's weird.. judge the guy on his policies, not his wife! Maybe that was a preview of how weird things would get!

 

[Stokely]

Thankfully I hear nothing like that at my work. I'd cut off contact with a fuckhead who said that, other than required work interaction.

I have my beefs with my job but we have a pretty strict no-politics thing going on...not sure if it's official policy but I've hardly ever heard anything political in 20 years. Sports, weather, sure. And that comment above would likely get someone fired depending on who heard it. I personally would never go to HR for anything, because they are nothing but a friend to management and are not your friend.

 

[Indus]

Thankfully I hear nothing like that at my work. I'd cut off contact with a fuckhead who said that, other than required work interaction.

I have my beefs with my job but we have a pretty strict no-politics thing going on...not sure if it's official policy but I've hardly ever heard anything political in 20 years. Sports, weather, sure. And that comment above would likely get someone fired depending on who heard it.

Thankfully you're luckier than I am:

When I was in college and working as an intern in a investment bank.. one of my bosses made an comment about the guy who the NYPD raped with a plunger..

Spoiler

like he couldn't understand how someone could get a plunger inside a guy.. it's so thick and the victim must have manufactured the story.. because that's what those guys do to hit back at Ghouliani.

Still remember that guys name because I can never forget what he said. Was shocked inside and another coworker just took me aside and said.. that's the kind of mentality needed to get promoted in this company.

A couple of years ago.. remember the Central Park Karen thing.. I don't think it was the exception.. it's actually more of the normal with these investment bankers.

 

[MrSquished]

And Obama being POTUS created Trump whitelash..

Not unreasonable to think Kamala will create something horrific in 4-8 years which Walz will have to dismantle (which I think he can.. unlike Hillary)

your own words quoted above are you blaming Kamala for the racists

Others are thinking it, I'm simply the one saying it..

But go ahead.. manufacture your own trumper lie of ME blaming them.. LOLs.. whatever floats your boat dude!

 

[Indus]

your own words quoted above are you blaming Kamala for the racists

Oh puhlease..

Those racists didn't like emancipation so they created the kkk.
They didn't like black senators, so they created Jim Crow.
They didn't like obama so they created trump.

If you think they'll just fall in love with kamala.. you're living in the twilight zone.

Grow a fucking brain Mr Squished brain.. I didn't blame her.. I just pointed out their history and likely trajectory!

 

[gothuevos]

LIKE A FUCKING BIPARTISAN BORDER BILL THAT TRUMP TORPEDOED WHEN HE WAS NOT IN OFFICE?
Fuck outta here with this.

What about the other times Dems had a trifecta, as early as 2020-2022, is what they will say. Or Biden undoing some of Trump's border EOs.

It's a lazy argument but sometimes perception is reality. Why do you think right wing parties continue to make steady incremental gains in Europe?

 

[manly]

What's weird is him blaming Obama and Harris for triggering racists and fascists. That's not an Obama and Harris problem that's a fucking racist and fascist problem. I mean seriously.

No, what's really weird is he frequently calls others dumb asses when he's posting the most inane shit on a daily basis.

Then he often lashes out and takes criticism way too personally, but it's obvious to pretty much all of us his opinions are simply trash. A complete lack of self-awareness (narcissist Trump would be so proud).

I've never used the forum ignore function, but it's tempting.

 

[JujuFish]

Grow a fucking brain Mr Squished brain.. I didn't blame her..

Go back to school and learn English, because your words absolutely did.

"Kamala will create something horrific"

 

[MrSquished]

Oh puhlease..

Those racists didn't like emancipation so they created the kkk.
They didn't like black senators, so they created Jim Crow.
They didn't like obama so they created trump.

If you think they'll just fall in love with kamala.. you're living in the twilight zone.

Grow a fucking brain Mr Squished brain.. I didn't blame her.. I just pointed out their history and likely trajectory!

I need to grow a brain when you are the one saying dumb shit?

If you wanted to blame the racists then you need to completely change your language. Language matters.

 

[Indus]

Go back to school and learn English, because your words absolutely did.

"Kamala will create something horrific"

In the minds of racists.. yes!

Did you forget they were horrified at some Cardi B song??

Lemme pull that link

 

[MrSquished]

In the minds of racists.. yes!

Did you forget they were horrified at some Cardi B song??

Lemme pull that link

Then say it differently, don't say it the way the racists would say it. Language matters and the way you said it reinforces the racists are being correct.

 

[Indus]

Then say it differently, don't say it the way the racists would say it. Language matters and the way you said it reinforces the racists are being correct.

Ok that I can accept.. maybe I should word things better but I think after 20+ years of posting here.. a few things about me should be crystal clear..

I do not like right wingers or racists.

They'll find a way to blame the left regardless..

P.S. Edited the original post.. to not reinforce the racists which was the last thing on my mind.

 

[gothuevos]

Yep. Trump killed the border bill (by threatening the GOP politicians who were going to get behind it).

Harris has pointed this out, multiple times. It is not her fault that the media prefers to go with Trump's lying new daily horseshit. It's not her fault that the dipshit American public doesn't seem to care.

Anyone still blaming Harris for "the border" or "the migrant problem" after that is 100% full of shit. Trump does not want to fix, or be even seen to start fixing, "the border" before the election. That would give credit to his enemies from his point of view. The logical conclusion is that Trump voters don't give a shit about "the border" either. They are just using it as a rallying cry, like kneeling football players and trans people and commies and every other boogeyman their scared little brains get filled with.

I also think he won't give one shit about "the border" after the election either unless taking some kind of action somehow enriches him. He will not want to start mass deportation because that will tank the economy--though the people behind Project 2025 will try anyway, because they are ultra rich and they believe "the economy" is them.

I heard all the bs about strong man Trump "fixing illegal immigration" in 2016 too. What did he actually do that was different from Obama? Or Biden after him? It's a complete farce.

I don't disagree, but then you see that Trump and the GOP consistently continue to poll better on immigration matters. That's how you know the country is lost.

 

[Muse]

Whatever she's doing is not working..

Look at a month ago.. all tv outlets were carrying her rallies from start to end.. and what're they doing now?

Busy hitting Biden with manufactured Trump bullshit like he's supposedly hard to reach.

She's gotta manufacture attention.. maybe medicare for all discussion again to compete with concepts of a plan. Maybe giving Ukraine more aid so it can actually beat Russia. Maybe sell her economic plan better or confront Bibi?

I agree it is ALARMING that people actually are starting to think Trump is a solution. Maybe after 9 years they're comfy with him but not comfy with migrants driving scooters on the sidewalks and doing u-turns mid street or running from collisions and not having insurance while legal new yorkers have to pay. It seems something is pissing them off.

Edit: I guess part of me is pissed off too but atleast I understand these problems are local and I want to replace the mayor and governor!

Stop fucking bitching and realize Kamala has to get elected before she can do anything as chief executive. Parse her positions in that light. Get your goddamn ego out of it.

 

[gothuevos]

Go back to school and learn English, because your words absolutely did.

"Kamala will create something horrific"

I think they meant in terms of the continued right wing backlash Harris would generate, like Obama.

I understood Indus just fine.

 

[Indus]

Stop fucking bitching and realize Kamala has to get elected before she can do anything as chief executive. Parse her positions in that light. Get your goddamn ego out of it.

Muse I think you're misunderstanding me..

What I'm complaining about is somehow Trump making some gains in the polls.. and it has to be stopped in its tracks now rather than be ignored.

 

[kage69]

Well…ILLEGAL immigrants ARE criminals…crossing the border illegally IS a crime of and by itself.

It included naturalized citizens in that count if it makes you feel any better.

 

[kage69]

Reminds me of a quote I saw on Twitter,

"Liberals need to do something to address immigration, or eventually the far right will."

But yeah, we seem cooked. Kamala's numbers aren't impressive and if true she is losing minority voters, that's brutal.

Unfortunately too many Americans simply want a Caesar. It's lazy thinking but that's where we are as a country. And with guys like Thiel and Musk in the background, there is no stopping our slide towards authoritarianism.

Balkanize.

Still "we" is it? lol

Harris has a 31 point advantage with voters 18-29, and that's not impressive to you. Hilarious.

Don't worry man, you'll be wrong about this election just like allllll the others.

 

[HomerJS]

Just to remind people still in Camp Trump who you are voting for. Proud to be a sexual predator.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpIsWeird/s/XUe3qNPge7

 

[Roger Wilco]

Apparently this is a feature and not a bug.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840765571060683001