Because they are addicted to the saturated fat in the food, the fat which gives that food ity's taste and flavor and makes it so bad for your body.Originally posted by: Vic
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions
The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.
I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.
oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
Originally posted by: Vic
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions
The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.
I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.
oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Because they are addicted to the saturated fat in the food, the fat which gives that food ity's taste and flavor and makes it so bad for your body.
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Your doctor just called. He said their printer accidentally left the "1"'s off of each number.
Sorry.
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Did anybody ask the OP if he was taking any medications during this time?
What you're saying is that heavily processed and preserved foods are as healthy as their fresh counter-parts. I can guarantee that my homemade piece of grilled chicken with light kosher salt, cracked pepper, paprika and a touch of olive oil is healthier than any chicken fare available at any single fast food restaurant. I'm not sure why you would even bother to try and dispute that. I know what I put on my fresh cooked foods and it's not even CLOSE to what fast food and other heavily processed foods pump into their product. I am a very informed cook and I know what I'm putting in my body. For the record, stop contesting the use of sulfates and address the use of NITRATES, because thoes are the problem.Food coloring, seasonings and preservatives are inert and harmless.
Many of the things you list are ALL the ingredients in the COOKED food. Especially the breaded chicken. Hell, have you LOOKED at the ingrediants of the seasoning you use on your meats? They read like a laundry list... much like the stuff listed here.
So, is the fat content higher? Is the cholesterol content higher? Keeping to the fscking topic of this thread, is there a VALID reason why a fast food burger would DOUBLE the OP's cholesterol over a home made burger?
That's what I thought. List a whole bunch of ingredients and act as if the big words most people don't understand are hidden boogiemen... when in fact they are inert preservatives, food colorings and flavor enhancers. NONE of which explain the OP's DOUBLED cholesterol numbers.
I'm not defending McDonalds. I'm defending reason and common fscking sense. I know an irrational witch hunt when I see one.
You're jumping to all kinds of conclusions that you really don't need to jump to. You took my entire post in the complete wrong context and are now arguing against some other idea you have in your mind. If anything I agree with you, and I'm not sure you actually understood that when you read my very elementary worded post. Though I will argue some of it anyway and generally play devils advocate.What is it you're trying to do here? Apologize for the fact that people are too LAZY to eat healthy and pin all the blame on their enablers? The average fast food lunch costs $5-$6 bucks. I guarantee you that if you got off your ass and looked around, you'd find dozens of small restaurants and shops in your area that offer healthier, higher quality food for lunch at the same price point and with the same "easy" convenience except for the lack of *GASP* a drive-thru window. And OMG you might have to sacrifice your HFCS/aspartame-laden soft drink and drink *OMGWTFBBQ* water. Or ** brown-bag it, which can be BOTH cheaper, faster (because you won't have to drive anywhere for lunch), and healthier than any fast food.
So exactly why should I make you a list? Oh, I get it -- because just like the lazy fsckers who only eat fast food that you're apologizing for, you're lazy too. You must be, because alternatives to fast food are literally everywhere if you opened your eyes, and you'd have to be either lazy or stupid if you need someone to make a list for you.
That's possible because unlike you I'm not a licensed Nutritionist or Physiologist so I don't claim to be an expert or a know it all.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Because they are addicted to the saturated fat in the food, the fat which gives that food ity's taste and flavor and makes it so bad for your body.
"Addicted?" That's a loaded term and pretty misleading.
Originally posted by: MazerRackham
I should add that I haven't lost any weight this entire time (still around 210 lbs). Crazy! I'm going to start running again to prep for the Nike Run Hit Remix next month. Anyone else doing that in LA?
Originally posted by: SampSon
I am willing to bet that if his diet of fast food style fare was translated into similar home cooked food, he would also display a dramatic change.
Originally posted by: Bibble
My doctor said that fast food should be eaten once a month or less. I was doing very well with this (only once a month about) until the summer, when it turned into almost once a week, eep!
dude. do you eat your 'fresh' food raw? because that's what you're basically claiming.Originally posted by: SampSon
Amused, you cannot sit there and honestly claim that McDonalds food is equal in quality to food you make at home.
My french fries: Hand sliced potatoes from a 10 lbs bag.
McDonalds fries: French Fries:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef, wheat and dairy sources), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains derivatives of wheat and dairy.
My chicken nuggets: Boneless chicken breasts or filets cut into strips or chunks and dredged in flour, salt, pepper, and paprika.
McDonalds chicken nuggets: Chicken McNuggets® Made with White Meat:
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and soy lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and soybean ingredients.
or you could go with the "Chicken Selects": Chicken Selects® Premium Breast Strips:
Chicken breast strip fritters with rib meat containing: Up to 25% of a solution of water, modified food starch, salt, monosodium glutamate, sodium phosphates, chicken broth, natural flavor (vegetable and animal source), maltodextrin, spice, autolyzed yeast, chicken fat, polysorbate 80, gum arabic. Breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, salt, spices, leavening (sodium bicarbonate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate), garlic powder, onion powder, dextrose, spice extractive, and extractives of paprika. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat ingredients.
My scrambled eggs: Two eggs bought daily from the farmer down the street or 2 Grade A eggs from the store.
McDonalds scambled eggs: Scrambled Eggs (2):
Pasteurized whole eggs with sodium pyrophosphate, citric acid, monosodium phosphate ? all added to preserve color, nisin. Liquid Margarine: Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, vegetable monoglycerides and soy lecithin (emulsifiers), sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, vitamin A palmitate, colored with beta carotene (source of vitamin A). Contains soybean ingredients.
My fish filet: Choice of white fish filet from the market.
McDonalds fish filet: Fish Filet Patty:
Pollock or Hoki, bleached wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, yellow corn flour, salt, whey, sugar, dextrose, dried yeast, disodium pyrophosphate, sodium pyrophosphate, sodium tripolyphosphate, cellulose gum, colored with extractives of paprika and turmeric, natural flavoring (vegetable source). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and fish (Polluck or Hoki) ingredients.
My Chicken sandwich: Boneless chicken breasts or filets, pounded flat and dredged in flour, salt, pepper and paprika.
McDonalds chicken sandwich (crispy): Crispy Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat. Contains: Up to 29.3% of a solution of water, seasoning (salt, modified food starch, spices, carrageenan, spice extractives), sodium phosphates. Battered and breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, bleached wheat flour, salt, spice, wheat gluten, egg white solids, dextrose, yeast, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, monocalcium phosphate). Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat and egg ingredients.
So in your kitchen you regularly use preservatives like that, in thoes amounts when you cook your food? The meat you get cut fresh from the butcher is loaded with preservatives, water, and flavorings like it is at McDonalds? If you continue to claim that McDonalds food is on par with fresh market food then you are continueing to propagate a fallacy, or a myth as you like to call it.
Though one of the items on that list that has no real list of additives is the Beef patties, and the grade A eggs, so I'll give ya that.
You also claim grilled chicken sandwiches to be a healthy choice...
Grilled Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat, colored with paprika and caramel color added. Contains: Up to 20% of a solution of water, seasoning [salt, sugar, modified corn starch, maltodextrin, spices, dextrose, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed (corn gluten, soy, wheat gluten) proteins, garlic powder, paprika, chicken fat, chicken broth, natural flavors (animal and vegetable source), caramel color, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, onion powder, extractives of paprika], modified food starch, sodium phosphates. Grilled with liquid margarine. Contains wheat and soybean ingredients.
sorry, not when injected with the amount of preservatives they put in there, though it is tad lower than their other fare, it's still garbage compared to a piece of grilled chicken at my home.
So you can continuously and endlessly defend fast food with convicted fervor, but you're just flat out wrong about the contents and nutritional measure of McDonalds food vs home cooked meals. Personally I enjoy the taste of fast food, I have nothing against it. Though I do mind when you come in, claim to be more than a laymen with nutrition and compare fast food to home cooked meals.
Originally posted by: Vic
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions
The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.
I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.
oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
dude. do you eat your 'fresh' food raw? because that's what you're basically claiming.Originally posted by: SampSon
Amused, you cannot sit there and honestly claim that McDonalds food is equal in quality to food you make at home.
My french fries: Hand sliced potatoes from a 10 lbs bag.
McDonalds fries: French Fries:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef, wheat and dairy sources), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains derivatives of wheat and dairy.
My chicken nuggets: Boneless chicken breasts or filets cut into strips or chunks and dredged in flour, salt, pepper, and paprika.
McDonalds chicken nuggets: Chicken McNuggets® Made with White Meat:
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and soy lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and soybean ingredients.
or you could go with the "Chicken Selects": Chicken Selects® Premium Breast Strips:
Chicken breast strip fritters with rib meat containing: Up to 25% of a solution of water, modified food starch, salt, monosodium glutamate, sodium phosphates, chicken broth, natural flavor (vegetable and animal source), maltodextrin, spice, autolyzed yeast, chicken fat, polysorbate 80, gum arabic. Breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, salt, spices, leavening (sodium bicarbonate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate), garlic powder, onion powder, dextrose, spice extractive, and extractives of paprika. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat ingredients.
My scrambled eggs: Two eggs bought daily from the farmer down the street or 2 Grade A eggs from the store.
McDonalds scambled eggs: Scrambled Eggs (2):
Pasteurized whole eggs with sodium pyrophosphate, citric acid, monosodium phosphate ? all added to preserve color, nisin. Liquid Margarine: Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, vegetable monoglycerides and soy lecithin (emulsifiers), sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, vitamin A palmitate, colored with beta carotene (source of vitamin A). Contains soybean ingredients.
My fish filet: Choice of white fish filet from the market.
McDonalds fish filet: Fish Filet Patty:
Pollock or Hoki, bleached wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, yellow corn flour, salt, whey, sugar, dextrose, dried yeast, disodium pyrophosphate, sodium pyrophosphate, sodium tripolyphosphate, cellulose gum, colored with extractives of paprika and turmeric, natural flavoring (vegetable source). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and fish (Polluck or Hoki) ingredients.
My Chicken sandwich: Boneless chicken breasts or filets, pounded flat and dredged in flour, salt, pepper and paprika.
McDonalds chicken sandwich (crispy): Crispy Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat. Contains: Up to 29.3% of a solution of water, seasoning (salt, modified food starch, spices, carrageenan, spice extractives), sodium phosphates. Battered and breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, bleached wheat flour, salt, spice, wheat gluten, egg white solids, dextrose, yeast, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, monocalcium phosphate). Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat and egg ingredients.
So in your kitchen you regularly use preservatives like that, in thoes amounts when you cook your food? The meat you get cut fresh from the butcher is loaded with preservatives, water, and flavorings like it is at McDonalds? If you continue to claim that McDonalds food is on par with fresh market food then you are continueing to propagate a fallacy, or a myth as you like to call it.
Though one of the items on that list that has no real list of additives is the Beef patties, and the grade A eggs, so I'll give ya that.
You also claim grilled chicken sandwiches to be a healthy choice...
Grilled Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat, colored with paprika and caramel color added. Contains: Up to 20% of a solution of water, seasoning [salt, sugar, modified corn starch, maltodextrin, spices, dextrose, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed (corn gluten, soy, wheat gluten) proteins, garlic powder, paprika, chicken fat, chicken broth, natural flavors (animal and vegetable source), caramel color, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, onion powder, extractives of paprika], modified food starch, sodium phosphates. Grilled with liquid margarine. Contains wheat and soybean ingredients.
sorry, not when injected with the amount of preservatives they put in there, though it is tad lower than their other fare, it's still garbage compared to a piece of grilled chicken at my home.
So you can continuously and endlessly defend fast food with convicted fervor, but you're just flat out wrong about the contents and nutritional measure of McDonalds food vs home cooked meals. Personally I enjoy the taste of fast food, I have nothing against it. Though I do mind when you come in, claim to be more than a laymen with nutrition and compare fast food to home cooked meals.
try cooking and preparing it and get back to us with that ingredient list.
Originally posted by: MazerRackham
Cholesterol: 367
Triglycerides: 1640
Originally posted by: SampSon
Amused, you cannot sit there and honestly claim that McDonalds food is equal in quality to food you make at home.
My french fries: Hand sliced potatoes from a 10 lbs bag.
McDonalds fries: French Fries:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef, wheat and dairy sources), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains derivatives of wheat and dairy.
So in your kitchen you regularly use preservatives like that, in thoes amounts when you cook your food? The meat you get cut fresh from the butcher is loaded with preservatives, water, and flavorings like it is at McDonalds?
If you continue to claim that McDonalds food is on par with fresh market food then you are continuing to propagate a fallacy, or a myth as you like to call it.
So you can continuously and endlessly defend fast food with convicted fervor, but you're just flat out wrong about the contents and nutritional measure of McDonalds food vs home cooked meals. Personally I enjoy the taste of fast food, I have nothing against it.
Though I do mind when you come in, claim to be more than a laymen with nutrition and compare fast food to home cooked meals.
