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Xyclone

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Fast food is sh1t for your body. Anyone who rationalizes isn't fooling anyone but themselves.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions :p

The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.

I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.



oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?
Because they are addicted to the saturated fat in the food, the fat which gives that food ity's taste and flavor and makes it so bad for your body.
 

meltdown75

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I like fast food and sometimes I get stuck eating it for lunch a few days in a row. You won't hear me complaining.

Fast food, slow food... hell I even likes me some medium food. Food FTW.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions :p

The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.

I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.



oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?


because they aren't 49 yr old women married to a health freak man.
 

meltdown75

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my lunch was 20 bucks today at an upscale restaurant :Q (scoping out the competition with a friend who owns a restaurant).

apps: pita bread and 3 different dips
sadnwich: ham & cheese on a fresh-baked croissant with sweet potato fries

*drool*

mmm, time for some leftover pizza from last night for dinner. food threads always are teh hungry
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Because they are addicted to the saturated fat in the food, the fat which gives that food ity's taste and flavor and makes it so bad for your body.

"Addicted?" That's a loaded term and pretty misleading.
 

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Good job MazerRackham! Keep up the good work. It's amazing how fast your body recovers after removing crap. It took me months after I quit smoking but it was great to be able to run again without feeling like a black lung poster boy.
 

MazerRackham

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Your doctor just called. He said their printer accidentally left the "1"'s off of each number.

Sorry.

LOL!! Yeah that's what I was worried about too!! I actually want to get another blood draw done to see if last week was an aberration.

I have a good friend who's an M.D., who has known about my horrible cholesterol and triglycerides, and he was just shocked at my drastic change. I still need to eat healthier and exercise MUCH more, but this is a good start.

Amused, I think you have a good point regarding the fries. I do cook hamburgers and the like at home, but of course there aren't any fries. When I make burgers at home I usually have 2-3 handfuls of bbq chips. The bbq chips, while not "health food" by any means, are certainly better than a LG fry from McD's.

And thanks for the kind comments in this thread... I was just hoping to inspire a bit of health-related discussion on the board here! :)
 

MazerRackham

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Did anybody ask the OP if he was taking any medications during this time?

No medications at all (no lipitor, no crestor, etc). And no increase in exercise.

Seriously, the only thing that changed (and I'm changing the way I state this per Amused's comments), was a change in diet. Not all of it can be directly attributed to a reduction in fast food intake, but reducing that intake was certainly my main objective.
 

Eeezee

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Did you make no other lifestyle changes? You ONLY cut fast food and didn't change your diet/exercise otherwise?

Great news for you though!
 

Xyclone

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Now start exercising and be AMAZED by how healthy you'll become. Just be consistent with it. :)
 

SampSon

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Food coloring, seasonings and preservatives are inert and harmless.

Many of the things you list are ALL the ingredients in the COOKED food. Especially the breaded chicken. Hell, have you LOOKED at the ingrediants of the seasoning you use on your meats? They read like a laundry list... much like the stuff listed here.

So, is the fat content higher? Is the cholesterol content higher? Keeping to the fscking topic of this thread, is there a VALID reason why a fast food burger would DOUBLE the OP's cholesterol over a home made burger?

That's what I thought. List a whole bunch of ingredients and act as if the big words most people don't understand are hidden boogiemen... when in fact they are inert preservatives, food colorings and flavor enhancers. NONE of which explain the OP's DOUBLED cholesterol numbers.

I'm not defending McDonalds. I'm defending reason and common fscking sense. I know an irrational witch hunt when I see one.
What you're saying is that heavily processed and preserved foods are as healthy as their fresh counter-parts. I can guarantee that my homemade piece of grilled chicken with light kosher salt, cracked pepper, paprika and a touch of olive oil is healthier than any chicken fare available at any single fast food restaurant. I'm not sure why you would even bother to try and dispute that. I know what I put on my fresh cooked foods and it's not even CLOSE to what fast food and other heavily processed foods pump into their product. I am a very informed cook and I know what I'm putting in my body. For the record, stop contesting the use of sulfates and address the use of NITRATES, because thoes are the problem.

I am on topic in this thread. You seem to be astray. Nowhere did the OP ever claim that the hamburger was causing him to be fat and making his cholesterol go through the roof, he was claming it was the uncontrolled eating of fast food. The op addressed this exact point in the thread, but you responded and brushed it off that the OP needs to chart his exact intake and diet in order to deduce if his intake of various foods changed in frequency and quality. Well the entire post is about that. He discontinued intaking fast food in ANY quantity (he was eating it 8-10 times a week) and he had a direct reflection in his health assessment. Is that just coincidence? No, it's a direct correlation and the amount of change he has experienced, the change is too great to attribute to extenuating circumstances. He directly stopping having a diet of subpar nutritional fast food and experienced a massive reduction. I am willing to bet that if his diet of fast food style fare was translated into similar home cooked food, he would also display a dramatic change.

Yes, you ARE defending McDonalds and all other fast food choices, you do it in all threads. I have no problem with that, and I have no problem with fast food or anything else unhealthy. Though you cannot continually deny in every single thread that fast food is unhealthy for you. If you do address that topic than you just respond by saying that everything should be in moderation while you flex your finely toned pecs and go on about how you can eat whatever you want and maintain your waistline. I've seen your conditional black and white argument used endlessly on this forum, so this is nothing hew.

If you want to talk about common sense then let's do it. Common sense says that if the OP stops eating fast food 8-10 times a week and his cholesterol dropped over 40% and his tiriglycerides dropped 85%, just by modifying his diet and excluding fast food, then fast food consumption must directly cause high cholesterol and high triglycerides. It's fairly cut and dry. The OP has made no major exercise routine changes, has made no real lifestyle changes exept cutting out fast food and eating normal food chocies alternatives.

So common sense will tell you that eating fast food in a diet like that will cause you to have high cholesterol, triglycerides and make you obese. If you cannont grasp that simple concept then I'm not sure what your issue it. I understand that you always make the argument that fast food in moderation in your diet isn't bad for you, well no sh!t sherlock. No one in this entire thread is arguing the point you -always- argue in these types of threads. Stop barking up that tree, it's not pertinent in this thread and many others you use it in.

What is it you're trying to do here? Apologize for the fact that people are too LAZY to eat healthy and pin all the blame on their enablers? The average fast food lunch costs $5-$6 bucks. I guarantee you that if you got off your ass and looked around, you'd find dozens of small restaurants and shops in your area that offer healthier, higher quality food for lunch at the same price point and with the same "easy" convenience except for the lack of *GASP* a drive-thru window. And OMG you might have to sacrifice your HFCS/aspartame-laden soft drink and drink *OMGWTFBBQ* water. Or ** brown-bag it, which can be BOTH cheaper, faster (because you won't have to drive anywhere for lunch), and healthier than any fast food.

So exactly why should I make you a list? Oh, I get it -- because just like the lazy fsckers who only eat fast food that you're apologizing for, you're lazy too. You must be, because alternatives to fast food are literally everywhere if you opened your eyes, and you'd have to be either lazy or stupid if you need someone to make a list for you.
You're jumping to all kinds of conclusions that you really don't need to jump to. You took my entire post in the complete wrong context and are now arguing against some other idea you have in your mind. If anything I agree with you, and I'm not sure you actually understood that when you read my very elementary worded post. Though I will argue some of it anyway and generally play devils advocate.

I'm not making excuses for anybody's lifestyle at all, but at the same time I don't need to see people making excuses for fast foods extremely poor nutritional content across the board (yes, recently some "healthier" fare has been offered, though for the vast majority of fast foods existance this has been the case). Many argue that due to people's laziness that they should be forced to eat very unhealthy much of the time. That is just a bvllshit argument and everyone who uses it knows it is. There IS more to life than merely personal choice.

Eating quickly and conveniently does not have to be unhealthy, though the over-whelming majority of it is and there is really no arguing that. Sure in many areas there are better, healtier alternatives available for fast on-the-go fare, though not every area has that luxury. I work in a huge area and do endless work in more rural-suburban to rural areas, most of these areas have three choices, sit down at a diner, brown bag it (not always a good choice depending on your situation) and fast food. Fast food is an establishment that spends a lot of resources advertising to the public and making it incredibly easy to obtain, much easier than your local shop that offers "healthy fare".

Yes in a perfect world everyone would either brown bag it with balanced nutrition in the perfect situation or would have enough time to sit down to a balanced meal. Well the world isn't perfect, even though you may be. There are so many life situtations where eating quickly and healthy is just not easy or near impossible. Sure personal choice has much to do with life, but also the situation and surroundings you are in play an even larger part.

Though for the record I'm not lazy when it comes to eating nor do I make excuses for anyone who does. I eat healthy and know where I can get a decent meal. Though there are always situations where fast food literally is the only viable choice, weather you want to believe it or not. So you missed the point of my post and took completely for face value and you still fail to understand that the rest of the world is just not as good as you, so pat yourself on the back for being so great.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Because they are addicted to the saturated fat in the food, the fat which gives that food ity's taste and flavor and makes it so bad for your body.

"Addicted?" That's a loaded term and pretty misleading.
That's possible because unlike you I'm not a licensed Nutritionist or Physiologist so I don't claim to be an expert or a know it all.
 

blckgrffn

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McD's uses 72% lean beef, if you don't believe that email them yourself ;)

*Their patties must be tiny in order for them to get them rated for that calorie/fat rating... maybe they analized them post grilling?

We already know they aren't near quarter pounders :p

Gotta love having grown up on beef/pork farm, I get loads of the leanest/best meat for free!

I still eat out too much though... :(
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
I should add that I haven't lost any weight this entire time (still around 210 lbs). Crazy! I'm going to start running again to prep for the Nike Run Hit Remix next month. Anyone else doing that in LA?

I don't understand how you're going to go from out of shape to ready for a race in less than a month.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: SampSon
I am willing to bet that if his diet of fast food style fare was translated into similar home cooked food, he would also display a dramatic change.

All that and this is what it boils down to.

Well, you'd lose that bet. Because, you are claiming that fast food raises your cholesterol more than the SAME foods cooked the same way at home.

That's an absurd claim that you cannot support with any valid facts.

His DIET changed. The fact that his "bad foods" came from fast food restaurants is irrelevant. He could have been getting those "bad foods" from any restaurant or home.
 

topslop1

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I'm all healthy range and my blood pressure is 116/65 I think? Actual heart rate is 53 beats a minute. Yeah go me and running 2 miles a day.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Bibble
My doctor said that fast food should be eaten once a month or less. I was doing very well with this (only once a month about) until the summer, when it turned into almost once a week, eep!

oh NOES not ONCE A WEEK!!!11111111eleven thousand one hundred eleven
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Amused, you cannot sit there and honestly claim that McDonalds food is equal in quality to food you make at home.

My french fries: Hand sliced potatoes from a 10 lbs bag.

McDonalds fries: French Fries:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef, wheat and dairy sources), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains derivatives of wheat and dairy.

My chicken nuggets: Boneless chicken breasts or filets cut into strips or chunks and dredged in flour, salt, pepper, and paprika.

McDonalds chicken nuggets: Chicken McNuggets® Made with White Meat:
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and soy lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and soybean ingredients.

or you could go with the "Chicken Selects": Chicken Selects® Premium Breast Strips:
Chicken breast strip fritters with rib meat containing: Up to 25% of a solution of water, modified food starch, salt, monosodium glutamate, sodium phosphates, chicken broth, natural flavor (vegetable and animal source), maltodextrin, spice, autolyzed yeast, chicken fat, polysorbate 80, gum arabic. Breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, salt, spices, leavening (sodium bicarbonate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate), garlic powder, onion powder, dextrose, spice extractive, and extractives of paprika. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat ingredients.

My scrambled eggs: Two eggs bought daily from the farmer down the street or 2 Grade A eggs from the store.

McDonalds scambled eggs: Scrambled Eggs (2):
Pasteurized whole eggs with sodium pyrophosphate, citric acid, monosodium phosphate ? all added to preserve color, nisin. Liquid Margarine: Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, vegetable monoglycerides and soy lecithin (emulsifiers), sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, vitamin A palmitate, colored with beta carotene (source of vitamin A). Contains soybean ingredients.

My fish filet: Choice of white fish filet from the market.

McDonalds fish filet: Fish Filet Patty:
Pollock or Hoki, bleached wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, yellow corn flour, salt, whey, sugar, dextrose, dried yeast, disodium pyrophosphate, sodium pyrophosphate, sodium tripolyphosphate, cellulose gum, colored with extractives of paprika and turmeric, natural flavoring (vegetable source). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and fish (Polluck or Hoki) ingredients.

My Chicken sandwich: Boneless chicken breasts or filets, pounded flat and dredged in flour, salt, pepper and paprika.

McDonalds chicken sandwich (crispy): Crispy Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat. Contains: Up to 29.3% of a solution of water, seasoning (salt, modified food starch, spices, carrageenan, spice extractives), sodium phosphates. Battered and breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, bleached wheat flour, salt, spice, wheat gluten, egg white solids, dextrose, yeast, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, monocalcium phosphate). Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat and egg ingredients.

So in your kitchen you regularly use preservatives like that, in thoes amounts when you cook your food? The meat you get cut fresh from the butcher is loaded with preservatives, water, and flavorings like it is at McDonalds? If you continue to claim that McDonalds food is on par with fresh market food then you are continueing to propagate a fallacy, or a myth as you like to call it.
Though one of the items on that list that has no real list of additives is the Beef patties, and the grade A eggs, so I'll give ya that.

You also claim grilled chicken sandwiches to be a healthy choice...

Grilled Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat, colored with paprika and caramel color added. Contains: Up to 20% of a solution of water, seasoning [salt, sugar, modified corn starch, maltodextrin, spices, dextrose, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed (corn gluten, soy, wheat gluten) proteins, garlic powder, paprika, chicken fat, chicken broth, natural flavors (animal and vegetable source), caramel color, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, onion powder, extractives of paprika], modified food starch, sodium phosphates. Grilled with liquid margarine. Contains wheat and soybean ingredients.

sorry, not when injected with the amount of preservatives they put in there, though it is tad lower than their other fare, it's still garbage compared to a piece of grilled chicken at my home.

So you can continuously and endlessly defend fast food with convicted fervor, but you're just flat out wrong about the contents and nutritional measure of McDonalds food vs home cooked meals. Personally I enjoy the taste of fast food, I have nothing against it. Though I do mind when you come in, claim to be more than a laymen with nutrition and compare fast food to home cooked meals.
dude. do you eat your 'fresh' food raw? because that's what you're basically claiming.

try cooking and preparing it and get back to us with that ingredient list.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions :p

The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.

I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.



oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?

because businesses exist to make money.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: SampSon
Amused, you cannot sit there and honestly claim that McDonalds food is equal in quality to food you make at home.

My french fries: Hand sliced potatoes from a 10 lbs bag.

McDonalds fries: French Fries:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef, wheat and dairy sources), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains derivatives of wheat and dairy.

My chicken nuggets: Boneless chicken breasts or filets cut into strips or chunks and dredged in flour, salt, pepper, and paprika.

McDonalds chicken nuggets: Chicken McNuggets® Made with White Meat:
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and soy lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and soybean ingredients.

or you could go with the "Chicken Selects": Chicken Selects® Premium Breast Strips:
Chicken breast strip fritters with rib meat containing: Up to 25% of a solution of water, modified food starch, salt, monosodium glutamate, sodium phosphates, chicken broth, natural flavor (vegetable and animal source), maltodextrin, spice, autolyzed yeast, chicken fat, polysorbate 80, gum arabic. Breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, salt, spices, leavening (sodium bicarbonate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate), garlic powder, onion powder, dextrose, spice extractive, and extractives of paprika. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat ingredients.

My scrambled eggs: Two eggs bought daily from the farmer down the street or 2 Grade A eggs from the store.

McDonalds scambled eggs: Scrambled Eggs (2):
Pasteurized whole eggs with sodium pyrophosphate, citric acid, monosodium phosphate ? all added to preserve color, nisin. Liquid Margarine: Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, vegetable monoglycerides and soy lecithin (emulsifiers), sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, vitamin A palmitate, colored with beta carotene (source of vitamin A). Contains soybean ingredients.

My fish filet: Choice of white fish filet from the market.

McDonalds fish filet: Fish Filet Patty:
Pollock or Hoki, bleached wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, yellow corn flour, salt, whey, sugar, dextrose, dried yeast, disodium pyrophosphate, sodium pyrophosphate, sodium tripolyphosphate, cellulose gum, colored with extractives of paprika and turmeric, natural flavoring (vegetable source). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat, milk and fish (Polluck or Hoki) ingredients.

My Chicken sandwich: Boneless chicken breasts or filets, pounded flat and dredged in flour, salt, pepper and paprika.

McDonalds chicken sandwich (crispy): Crispy Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat. Contains: Up to 29.3% of a solution of water, seasoning (salt, modified food starch, spices, carrageenan, spice extractives), sodium phosphates. Battered and breaded with: Wheat flour, water, modified corn starch, bleached wheat flour, salt, spice, wheat gluten, egg white solids, dextrose, yeast, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, monocalcium phosphate). Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains wheat and egg ingredients.

So in your kitchen you regularly use preservatives like that, in thoes amounts when you cook your food? The meat you get cut fresh from the butcher is loaded with preservatives, water, and flavorings like it is at McDonalds? If you continue to claim that McDonalds food is on par with fresh market food then you are continueing to propagate a fallacy, or a myth as you like to call it.
Though one of the items on that list that has no real list of additives is the Beef patties, and the grade A eggs, so I'll give ya that.

You also claim grilled chicken sandwiches to be a healthy choice...

Grilled Chicken Breast Filet:
Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat, colored with paprika and caramel color added. Contains: Up to 20% of a solution of water, seasoning [salt, sugar, modified corn starch, maltodextrin, spices, dextrose, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed (corn gluten, soy, wheat gluten) proteins, garlic powder, paprika, chicken fat, chicken broth, natural flavors (animal and vegetable source), caramel color, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, onion powder, extractives of paprika], modified food starch, sodium phosphates. Grilled with liquid margarine. Contains wheat and soybean ingredients.

sorry, not when injected with the amount of preservatives they put in there, though it is tad lower than their other fare, it's still garbage compared to a piece of grilled chicken at my home.

So you can continuously and endlessly defend fast food with convicted fervor, but you're just flat out wrong about the contents and nutritional measure of McDonalds food vs home cooked meals. Personally I enjoy the taste of fast food, I have nothing against it. Though I do mind when you come in, claim to be more than a laymen with nutrition and compare fast food to home cooked meals.
dude. do you eat your 'fresh' food raw? because that's what you're basically claiming.

try cooking and preparing it and get back to us with that ingredient list.

I do. None of the ingredients in my kitchen include anything like what you see in McDonald's ingredients. An example from one of my mango curry sauces:

Mangos, Pure Cane Sugar, Water, Brown Sugar, Pineapple, Mustard, Passion Fruit Juice, Molasses, Minced Onion, Tomato Paste, Lemon Juice, Garlic Salt, Citric Acid, Hibiscus Oil

Of course, the argument for many of you will be, "None of the additives are harmful." I personally don't care if they are or not; I don't want them in my food. You don't have to eat food raw to eat responsibly, and having an acquiescent mentality about what you put on your food is irresponsible as a consumer, imo.

 

dfi

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
Cholesterol: 367
Triglycerides: 1640

Holy! Wtf, triglycerides of 1640? That's possible? My latest bloodwork shows triglycerides below 60. That's insanity. Good thing you cut out on the fast food.

Good work, keep it up!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Amused, you cannot sit there and honestly claim that McDonalds food is equal in quality to food you make at home.

My french fries: Hand sliced potatoes from a 10 lbs bag.

McDonalds fries: French Fries:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef, wheat and dairy sources), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). Contains derivatives of wheat and dairy.

So in your kitchen you regularly use preservatives like that, in thoes amounts when you cook your food? The meat you get cut fresh from the butcher is loaded with preservatives, water, and flavorings like it is at McDonalds?

If you continue to claim that McDonalds food is on par with fresh market food then you are continuing to propagate a fallacy, or a myth as you like to call it.

So you can continuously and endlessly defend fast food with convicted fervor, but you're just flat out wrong about the contents and nutritional measure of McDonalds food vs home cooked meals. Personally I enjoy the taste of fast food, I have nothing against it.

Though I do mind when you come in, claim to be more than a laymen with nutrition and compare fast food to home cooked meals.

Awesome job. :thumbsup:

Thank you for pwning the American Corporate Brainwasher :laugh: