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Amused

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Nutritional info for ground beef based on a 3 oz serving cooked well done:

73% Lean 80% Lean 85% Lean
Calories
248.00 235.00 213.00
Protein (g)
22.84 24.38 24.85
Total Fat (g)
16.83 14.52 11.81

Now the numbers from a 3.7 oz McDonalds Hamburger INCLUDING bun and condiments:

Calories: 260
Fat: 9g

Oh yeah. It's SOOOOOO much worse than store bought ground beef. :roll:
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Am I in good shape? Well, I just turned 39 and I'll bet you anything you wanna bet that I'm in better shape than you.

Do you eat at McDonald's every day? What is your diet like?

BTW-I'm 39 years old too.

A couple times a week. More if I stop for breakfast burritos in the AM.

My diet has a lot of tuna, chicken (much of it canned) deli meats and beef with a focus on whole grain carbs over starchy carbs. I eat 6 times a day.

I snack on nuts, too.

Of course, I have to pull in about 4000 calories a day so my diet is unique.
 

James3shin

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better shape then me? I won't argue this over a internet forum because it's pointless, but I'm pretty sure that I am fit even by athelete standards. To get back on topic, my grilled chicken doesn't contain, sugar, corn starck, any dextrin, yeast, gum or food starch. I also don't grill with margarine. How would my burgers have the same numbers as theirs when I use 97% fat-free ground beef, a whole wheat bun, lettuce, tomato, onions, pickels, a dab of kethcup and a dab of mustard?
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Am I in good shape? Well, I just turned 39 and I'll bet you anything you wanna bet that I'm in better shape than you.

Do you eat at McDonald's every day? What is your diet like?

BTW-I'm 39 years old too.

A couple times a week. More if I stop for breakfast burritos in the AM.

My diet has a lot of tuna, chicken (much of it canned) deli meats and beef with a focus on whole grain carbs over starchy carbs. I eat 6 times a day.

I snack on nuts, too.

Of course, I have to pull in about 4000 calories a day so my diet is unique.

God help you if you ever stop working out. All that muscle will turn straight to flab and you'll definitely need to change your diet.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: James3shin
better shape then me? I won't argue this over a internet forum because it's pointless, but I'm pretty sure that I am fit even by athelete standards. To get back on topic, my grilled chicken doesn't contain, sugar, corn starck, any dextrin, yeast, gum or food starch. I also don't grill with margarine. How would my burgers have the same numbers as theirs when I use 97% fat-free ground beef, a whole wheat bun, lettuce, tomato, onions, pickels, a dab of kethcup and a dab of mustard?

I just posted the numbers proving my point.

Their burgers are no better, or worse than the average burger anywhere else, and is actually quite lean.

You questioned my physical fitness. I merely responded.

BTW, I'm a rather advanced weight lifter.
 

James3shin

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4K calories? I hope you are a lifter or runner or do something. It sounds like you are on some physcial regimen or exercise, does the general public do so? Hellz no. They eat, sleep, sit and watch TV, so how can they afford to eat McD's like you?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

God help you if you ever stop working out. All that muscle will turn straight to flab and you'll definitely need to change your diet.

Well of course. (Actually, muscle doesn;t turn to flab, but I get your point)

If I stop lifting I will need to curb my intake and cardio the weight off. It's not hard at all. I do it anytime I need to cut.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: James3shin
4K calories? I hope you are a lifter or runner or do something. It sounds like you are on some physcial regimen or exercise, does the general public do so? Hellz no. They eat, sleep, sit and watch TV, so how can they afford to eat McD's like you?

They don't eat that much. It's that simple.

There is no reason to have my calorie intake unless you're a body builder.
 

James3shin

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So you know that eating McD's will put on fat, thus increasing the other aforementioned mal-attributes. How can you still say that a home cooked burger is not better for a person then a fast food attempt?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: James3shin
So you know that eating McD's will put on fat, thus increasing the other aforementioned mal-attributes. How can you still say that a home cooked burger is not better for a person then a fast food attempt?

I already posted the numbers on various ground beefs and the McDonald's burger.

Not only is the McDonald's burger not worse, it's actually leaner than the 85% lean ground beef most people buy in stores.

No particular food puts on fat. Only an excess of food and lack of exercise does that.
 

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I figure that any food you get in a 'fast food' restaurant is going to be less healthy than food you cook at home. Your priorities at home are to use what you have in the fridge to create dinner. But a fast-food establishment has to deal with a whole different set of requirements. If you let a buch of buns go stale, then you either eat 'em stale or throw them out. Costs you a couple of bucks. If McDonalds lost a day's worth of buns, that's a lot of bread. Similarly, you may buy higher-quality groceries; people mentioned chuck vs. round. A few cents a pound isn't a big deal if you're buying a couple of pounds, but have you considered how much meat these places prepare in a day? Cents on the dollar matter at those scales. I'll pay a little more for better ingredients, but I'm not buying hundreds of pounds of hamburger meat either.

And people don't often look at nutrition info when they want fast food. I like Checkers' fries. They're deepfried, battered potatoes, loaded with salt and fat. Are they health food? No. I also don't eat them more than about once a month -- because they're not healthy. But people pick fast food for taste, convenience and speed. Popular stuff is loaded with sugar, salt and fat -- because sugar, salt and fat taste good. Fast food places sweeten their food because it makes the food seem to have more flavor. Ditto on the salt and fat. But if you go to a four-star restaurant, guess what? They do the same thing, only with butter and cream instead of partially hydrogenated soybean oil. Same game -- boost the fat, boost the flavor. Fast food places do try to engineer their products to cater to what people want -- y'know, to sell product and make money. But so does the fancy chef's restaurant -- people buy food out to get something tasty. That's what they want, and restaurants want to provide that.

You want health food, you have to eat at home, or pack a lunch. Or find one of the earthy-crunchy stores that sells sandwiches. (Note though, that avocado sandwiches are not low-fat :) But if you want a hot meal, that you can get into your hands in a minute or two, then fast food is out there. Wendy's has a baked potato which is good until you slater it with sour cream and margerine. Salads are great until you douse 'em in salty, fatty ranch dressing.

(edited to fix my Quayle-spelling of potato)
 

James3shin

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Ok, does the public curb their intake when they detect a weight gain? Again NO! The public eats what tastes good and is convenient. The majority is lazy, overweight and don't watch what they eat. My point about your intake is that the general public probably has a much greater intake then the recommended 2000 calories and it's usually a very bad +2000 calories. You, me, jules and whoever that exercises regularly are not of the norm, not anymore, the bulge has taken over. It's obvious that the current combination of fast food and lack of exercise that the public has taken on is leading to fat and poor health. I shadow radiologists and the majority once again is obese people coming in complaining of stomach pains and the like, usually it's just indigestion from eating too damn much.

Oh and Swimmers eat alot of damn calories and so do marathoners. Michael Phelps put away 2000 calories in one sitting at breakfast!
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amused
Am I in good shape? Well, I just turned 39 and I'll bet you anything you wanna bet that I'm in better shape than you.

Do you eat at McDonald's every day? What is your diet like?

BTW-I'm 39 years old too.

A couple times a week. More if I stop for breakfast burritos in the AM.

My diet has a lot of tuna, chicken (much of it canned) deli meats and beef with a focus on whole grain carbs over starchy carbs. I eat 6 times a day.

I snack on nuts, too.

Of course, I have to pull in about 4000 calories a day so my diet is unique.

God help you if you ever stop working out. All that muscle will turn straight to flab and you'll definitely need to change your diet.

It happened to me when I got injured. :(
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Ever read a school lunch menu? Poor dietary choices are taught early in life, and they stick. Fast food chains are just selling people what they demand to have. There are a multitude of inexpensive healthy choices out there, most people just don't choose them.
You just reiterated a point I made in the numerous other school lunch threads on this forum. So I understand what you're saying.

Now make me your list of inexpensive healthy choices out there, also tack on "easy" in your list of adjectives.
What is it you're trying to do here? Apologize for the fact that people are too LAZY to eat healthy and pin all the blame on their enablers? The average fast food lunch costs $5-$6 bucks. I guarantee you that if you got off your ass and looked around, you'd find dozens of small restaurants and shops in your area that offer healthier, higher quality food for lunch at the same price point and with the same "easy" convenience except for the lack of *GASP* a drive-thru window. And OMG you might have to sacrifice your HFCS/aspartame-laden soft drink and drink *OMGWTFBBQ* water. Or *:shocked:* brown-bag it, which can be BOTH cheaper, faster (because you won't have to drive anywhere for lunch), and healthier than any fast food.

So exactly why should I make you a list? Oh, I get it -- because just like the lazy fsckers who only eat fast food that you're apologizing for, you're lazy too. You must be, because alternatives to fast food are literally everywhere if you opened your eyes, and you'd have to be either lazy or stupid if you need someone to make a list for you.
 

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Wow man, that's great to hear about your lower cholesterol. But 8-10 fast food meals a week? That's terrible for your health, sounds like a mini replica of that 30 day all-MickeyDees diet.

I guess I'm over the fast food enjoyment that younger people get, but I have to admit, I am a sucker for Taco Bell. I still eat that at least once a week. Don't care what's in it, it just tastes so damn good.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Nope, those Salads take time to prepare and are made by Chefs or Cooks, not some Pimple Farmer with crusty hands.

Have you looked in the kitchen of your local sit down restaurants?
Have you besides your own joints?

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Nope, those Salads take time to prepare and are made by Chefs or Cooks, not some Pimple Farmer with crusty hands.

Have you looked in the kitchen of your local sit down restaurants?
Have you besides your own joints?

Yep, and they sure don't look like Emeril Lagasse or Wolfgang Puck to me. Most are greasy low wage workers... lots of them college age or language impaired minorities..
 

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Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions :p

The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.

I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.



oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: James3shin
better shape then me? I won't argue this over a internet forum because it's pointless, but I'm pretty sure that I am fit even by athelete standards. ?

, or worse than the average burger anywhere else, and is actually quite lean.

You questioned my physical fitness. I merely responded.

BTW, I'm a rather advanced weight lifter.
:roll: If your history of posting means anything I'm sure you were just waiting to say that. A week doesn't go by where you don't post a pic of your back or bicep.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: James3shin
better shape then me? I won't argue this over a internet forum because it's pointless, but I'm pretty sure that I am fit even by athelete standards. ?

, or worse than the average burger anywhere else, and is actually quite lean.

You questioned my physical fitness. I merely responded.

BTW, I'm a rather advanced weight lifter.
:roll: If your history of posting means anything I'm sure you were just waiting to say that. A week doesn't go by where you don't post a pic of your back or bicep.

Red, I was ASKED about my physical condition. I did not bring that up for no reason at all.

So please, pull that bug out of your ass about it, OK?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions :p

The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.

I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.



oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?
 

James3shin

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Let's see a burger from Wendy's or one made at home by my husband.. decisions,decisions :p

The burger made at home will be made from low fat beef, the bun will most likely be multi grain, the veggies on it will be fresh and it will taste delcious.

I don't eat at Mickey D's, I will have pizza on friday at work,our work cafe makes awesome deep dish veggie pizza and they try to make it heart safe.



oh and I love french fries of all types but those are an occasional treat, not something to be eaten even on a weekly basis.
So why don't all those fast food customers make healthier burgers and fries at home, like you do? Or make more health-conscious restaurant decisions, like you do?

because most people are fat, lazy, slobs. It's the truth.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: James3shin
better shape then me? I won't argue this over a internet forum because it's pointless, but I'm pretty sure that I am fit even by athelete standards. ?

, or worse than the average burger anywhere else, and is actually quite lean.

You questioned my physical fitness. I merely responded.

BTW, I'm a rather advanced weight lifter.
:roll: If your history of posting means anything I'm sure you were just waiting to say that. A week doesn't go by where you don't post a pic of your back or bicep.

Red, I was ASKED about my physical condition. I did not bring that up for no reason at all.
Ok so this time it's different than the other 99% of the time:roll::laugh:

I'm just messin with ya.