Not for Joe Torre, he was making $7.5 last year. I don't care how good an offer $5 mil is for other manager, it is a slap in face for Joe Torre. It's a 33% paycut plus it's an one year offer. Joe Torre has made enough money the last 12 years to not worry about money, he knows Yankees don't want him and don't respect what he has done.
Good for Joe to walk away from an organization without any class.
Captante
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- Oct 20, 2003
- 30,353
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One things for sure, he wasn't going to accept a 2 million dollar pay-cut with "performance-based" incentives of a million for each playoff seris he won in 2008 & him only being offered a second year if he made it to the World seris ... the offer as it was made was insulting in that it seemed to imply that more money would make him try his hardest to win.
Considering how much I hate the Yankees & am tired of them winning this makes me very happy, but as an objective baseball fan I think its a disgrace ... if they had fired Torre & replaced him right away with Mattingly or Girardi it would have at least shown guts, but this was pathetic & actually makes me miss the days of Boss-George.
While its possible sombody else will come in & do as well as Torre did, my guess is that won't happen & the organization is going to be looking at some turbulence for the next couple seasons at least ... in my opinion 10 years down the road folks will look back at the last 12-season Yankee run as one of the most impressive stretchs of baseball in the history of the sport.
12 straight years in the playoffs, 6 time champions of the American league & 4 World seris rings.... tell me if you'ed been offered that ahead of time you wouldn't have jumped all over it & now its not good enough!
What a joke ... all you spoiled Yankee fans are going to miss Joe Torre, mark my words.
KLin
Lifer
- Feb 29, 2000
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- 126
PottedMeat
Lifer
- Apr 17, 2002
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I'm glad Torre decided to leave. He took a lot of crap from Steinbrenner. After 12 years and all of the success he's had, you would think they would've treated him better. As a Yankee fan, I hope Arod, Posada, and Mo all decide to come back...but unless Mattingly becomes manager, I don't see that happening. Even Mo said...after the whole Bernie situation and now this..he now sees baseball as a business. The Yankees just lost his loyalty. I think next year Mo is going to go to the team with the highest offer...whether it be the Yankees or not.
BeauJangles
Lifer
- Aug 26, 2001
- 13,941
- 1
- 0
Torre was a great manager for the Yankees. Like Buster Olney pointed out in his masterbatorial eulogy to the Torre era, he did a wonderful job of handling the egos of the New York superstars. He handled the media, for the most part, exceptionally well. Finding a manager who can replicate those qualities will be difficult.
A new manager will bring new energy into the club. It will probably also usher a few new faces into the roster. i am surprised, though, that Cashman isn't feeling the heat. While Torre has been 'responsible' for the Yankees losing in the first round of the playoffs over the last three (?) seasons, it isn't his fault the Yankees' pitching staff is mediocre at best.
Cashman, probably influenced by Steinbrenner, has had a hard-on for former Yankees. Clemens was basically an overpaid disaster this season, Pettite was a mixed bag, and Wang absolutely imploded when it counted (granted, most didn't see that coming). The Yankees need to commit to building a strong young starting rotation. Combine that with Joba as the closer, a reinforced bullpen, and the lineup the Yankees currently have, and they'll have a formidable team.
Anubis
No Lifer
- Nov 19, 2001
- 27,727
- 16
- 81
Torre was great for the Yankees, the fans and the organization.
He is enormously popular among Yankee fans despite all this.
Everyone that's trashing the Yankee organization as a disgrace or classless, etc. has to realize that it's an organization in transition.
George has just handed over the reins to his two sons who are anxious to run things the way they see it.
While I may disagree with the way they see it, I will hold off on judgement until I see the way things play out.
I love Torre, I think he was a great manager. But more important he was a great buffer between ownership and the players.
That may not be necessary with the Steinbrenner kids, it remains to be seen.
He is enormously popular among Yankee fans despite all this.
Everyone that's trashing the Yankee organization as a disgrace or classless, etc. has to realize that it's an organization in transition.
George has just handed over the reins to his two sons who are anxious to run things the way they see it.
While I may disagree with the way they see it, I will hold off on judgement until I see the way things play out.
I love Torre, I think he was a great manager. But more important he was a great buffer between ownership and the players.
That may not be necessary with the Steinbrenner kids, it remains to be seen.
Anubis
No Lifer
Gibson486
Lifer
- Aug 9, 2000
- 18,378
- 2
- 0
if Lugo can continue to hit like he was during the last part of the season, then yeah. I hope his 2nd season is better. His speed is really good, but what does it matter if he can't get on base when it counts. He should be our lead off hitter, but he can't handle that role.
- Nov 19, 2001
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- Nov 19, 2001
- 27,727
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- Nov 19, 2001
- 27,727
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