It is time sanders drops out.

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mysticjbyrd

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Yeh, just like the superdelegates stole the nom from Obama in 2008.

Righties do love their bullshit.


Except Obama is just as much of.a corporate shill as Hillary. Obama would likely never be that big again, while Hillary was always a sure bet, so it made sense to use him in 2008.

This situation would be totally different.
 

BoberFett

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Is that BernieBro speak for a grown up who can do math?
:rolleyes:

Hillary's shills have been claiming that Sanders should have dropped out since Iowa. Because math.

You people are shameless in your support of a horrible politician.
 

SP33Demon

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mystic we have a suite and $500 food voucher waiting for you at the Mar-a-Lago Club if you are voting Trump.
 
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mystic we have a suite and $500 food voucher waiting for you at the Mar-a-Lago Club if you are voting Trump.

"Any reward given to a person for voting in a particular way or for not voting can be called vote buying. Vote buying is a corrupt election practice. A vote buying bribe is that having a monetary value. The practice of vote buying is banned in United States. Vote buying is a threat to the conduct of fair elections. In the U.S. vote buying is an offence when a person knowingly or willfully gives false information or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This provision shall only by applicable to general, special, or primary elections (42 USCS § 1973i(c)). "

http://definitions.uslegal.com/v/vote-buying/

Tsk, tsk.
 
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mystic we have a suite and $500 food voucher waiting for you at the Mar-a-Lago Club if you are voting Trump.
"Any reward given to a person for voting in a particular way or for not voting can be called vote buying. Vote buying is a corrupt election practice. A vote buying bribe is that having a monetary value. The practice of vote buying is banned in United States. Vote buying is a threat to the conduct of fair elections. In the U.S. vote buying is an offence when a person knowingly or willfully gives false information or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This provision shall only by applicable to general, special, or primary elections (42 USCS § 1973i(c)). "

http://definitions.uslegal.com/v/vote-buying/

Tsk, tsk.
lol
 

SP33Demon

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"Any reward given to a person for voting in a particular way or for not voting can be called vote buying. Vote buying is a corrupt election practice. A vote buying bribe is that having a monetary value. The practice of vote buying is banned in United States. Vote buying is a threat to the conduct of fair elections. In the U.S. vote buying is an offence when a person knowingly or willfully gives false information or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This provision shall only by applicable to general, special, or primary elections (42 USCS § 1973i(c)). "

http://definitions.uslegal.com/v/vote-buying/

Tsk, tsk.
Not buying anything. Trump told me that anyone willing to vote for him early is invited to Mar-a-Lago to discuss campaign strategy. So I can invite whoever I want. Anyone can feel free to turn down the invitation. :p
 
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Not buying anything. Trump told me that anyone willing to vote for him early is invited to Mar-a-Lago to discuss campaign strategy. So I can invite whoever I want. Anyone can feel free to turn down the invitation. :p

It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.





Oh yeah, "Trump told me". Lolers
 

Bitek

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:rolleyes:

Hillary's shills have been claiming that Sanders should have dropped out since Iowa. Because math.

You people are shameless in your support of a horrible politician.

Policy math bobo.

Eg Sander's punitive tax policies and his deceptive healthcare plan, which he oversells the savings and doesn't account for trillions on costs. Even after his multi-trillion $$$ tax increases on everyone, we'll still be blowing out the deficit.

His plans are nearly as fantastical as Trump's massive military spending plans and $10 trillion tax cuts. Cruz's are absurd also.


Hillary ain't no belle of the ball, but she's the only one promising policies that are even remotely fiscally responsible or grounded in reality. But go ahead, vote for your preferred candidate promising mountains of Free Stuff paid for by puppies and rainbows.
 

BoberFett

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Policy math bobo.

Eg Sander's punitive tax policies and his deceptive healthcare plan, which he oversells the savings and doesn't account for trillions on costs. Even after his multi-trillion $$$ tax increases on everyone, we'll still be blowing out the deficit.

His plans are nearly as fantastical as Trump's massive military spending plans and $10 trillion tax cuts. Cruz's are absurd also.


Hillary ain't no belle of the ball, but she's the only one promising policies that are even remotely fiscally responsible or grounded in reality. But go ahead, vote for your preferred candidate promising mountains of Free Stuff paid for by puppies and rainbows.
I'm not interested in his giveaways, and they wouldn't get past congress anyway. That's meaningless campaign fluff IMO. What Sanders will do however is prevent further military quagmires, something Hillary will not do. She's as hawkish as anybody on the right.

So tell me pencil neck, what's the math on escalating war in the middle east?
 

dank69

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I'm not interested in his giveaways, and they wouldn't get past congress anyway. That's meaningless campaign fluff IMO. What Sanders will do however is prevent further military quagmires, something Hillary will not do. She's as hawkish as anybody on the right.

So tell me pencil neck, what's the math on escalating war in the middle east?
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration.
 

chucky2

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Policy math bobo.

Eg Sander's punitive tax policies and his deceptive healthcare plan, which he oversells the savings and doesn't account for trillions on costs. Even after his multi-trillion $$$ tax increases on everyone, we'll still be blowing out the deficit.

His plans are nearly as fantastical as Trump's massive military spending plans and $10 trillion tax cuts. Cruz's are absurd also.


Hillary ain't no belle of the ball, but she's the only one promising policies that are even remotely fiscally responsible or grounded in reality. But go ahead, vote for your preferred candidate promising mountains of Free Stuff paid for by puppies and rainbows.

You see the problem there right?
 
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dank69

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Okay? There is a lot of room to the right of Obama before she starts even sniffing GOP candidate territory. You let me know when she says we are ready to find out if sand glows or suggests we should start murdering the families of terrorists.
 
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Okay? There is a lot of room to the right of Obama before she starts even sniffing GOP candidate territory. You let me know when she says we are ready to find out if sand glows or suggests we should start murdering the families of terrorists.
While Trump proposes that we take out ISIS, he was against the Libya and Iraq wars as well as intervention in Syria. I don't know what your smoking, but it's really fucking up your perception of reality.
 
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While Trump proposes that we take out ISIS, he was against the Libya and Iraq wars as well as intervention in Syria. I don't know what your smoking, but it's really fucking up your perception of reality.
You have some strange perceptions of reality.

From Politifact:
Regarding the Iraq War, "I was the one that said, ‘Don’t go, don’t do it, you’re going to destabilize the Middle East.’ "

Maybe Trump felt this way privately, but he made no publicly reported comments in the lead up to the Iraq War that reflect this sentiment. We could only find one example of Trump commenting on the Iraq War before the invasion, and he seemed apprehensive but not vehemently opposed to the operation. He only started publicly denouncing the war after it started.

Trump makes it sound like he stood on a railroad to try to stop the Iraq War train in its tracks. In reality, by the time he got around to forcefully criticizing the war, that train had already left the station. We rate his statement Mostly False.

On Libya:
It comes from 2011, on Trump’s video blog.

"I can’t believe what our country is doing," Trump said, according to a BuzzFeed transcript. "Gaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage."

Trump continued.

"You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst," Trump said. "Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before."

And then ...

"But we have go in to save these lives; these people are being slaughtered like animals," Trump said. "It’s horrible what’s going on; it has to be stopped. We should do on a humanitarian basis, immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly, very surgically, very effectively, and save the lives."
 

BoberFett

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Okay? There is a lot of room to the right of Obama before she starts even sniffing GOP candidate territory. You let me know when she says we are ready to find out if sand glows or suggests we should start murdering the families of terrorists.

What do you mean "start"? Obama has more drone kills than Bush did. Actions speak louder than words, and Obama and Clinton have absolutely no qualms with killing the families of terrorists if they happen to be standing next to a target when the drone strike hits.
 
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You have some strange perceptions of reality.

From Politifact:


On Libya:

the drumpfbots don't care that he lies, flips positions on a whim, flat out declines that he said/did something when there is mountains of evidence to the contrary. he is just another politician. A bloated, orange one, but a politician.
 
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You have some strange perceptions of reality.

From Politifact:


On Libya:
You have nothing regarding his position on Iraq before the war except conjecture with zero basis in fact...you do understand that reality right? He then publicly stated his position against the war right after the war started.

And pray tell, just who was it who lied and created the false narrative of impending genocide in our rush to war in Libya? That video clip of Trump was from February, 2011 when Hillary was lying her ass in order to drum up support for her war. Trump's mistake was believing Hillary and her bullshit lies to "justify" our involvement.
 
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dank69

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What do you mean "start"? Obama has more drone kills than Bush did. Actions speak louder than words, and Obama and Clinton have absolutely no qualms with killing the families of terrorists if they happen to be standing next to a target when the drone strike hits.

I'm pretty sure Trump was talking about deliberately targeting family members, not collateral damage. Let's not forget Trump advocates torture as well.
 

ivwshane

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You have nothing regarding his position on Iraq before the war except conjecture with zero basis in fact...you do understand that reality right? He then publicly stated his position against the war right after the war started.

And pray tell, just who was it who lied and created the false narrative of impending genocide in our rush to war in Libya? His first mistake was believing Hillary and the bullshit lies she used to "justify" our involvement.

You mean like Trump, in his own words, saying he is for invading Iraq?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=77P6fxa2KOs

Yeah other than that he was against the war before it even started! /s
 

fskimospy

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You have nothing regarding his position on Iraq before the war except conjecture with zero basis in fact...you do understand that reality right? He then publicly stated his position against the war right after the war started.

And pray tell, just who was it who lied and created the false narrative of impending genocide in our rush to war in Libya? His first mistake was believing Hillary and the bullshit lies she used to "justify" our involvement.

Nope, it turns out that Trump was a big supporter of both the Iraq war and the intervention in Libya. He has recently CLAIMED that he wasn't in favor of either of those, but that turned out to be yet another lie.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...-he-supported-invading-iraq-on-the#.iyO3xpEeZ

Now that you know he's lied to everyone yet again about topics you claim to find important does that change your decision to vote for him over Hillary?