Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: drag
Lets have a comparsion. I bought quake2 for around 50 bucks a while ago.
Well, yess. A LONG time ago. I can still play online with it on numerious servers all over the place... cost 50 bucks.
Same thing with Quake3 and mods, and ut2004. Played many many hours with those games... costing me around 50-60 bucks. Many years of gameplay, many many months. And mods. Downloaded lots and lots of mods and played those for a long time.
Occasionally I'd donate some money to a server that I liked, but beyond that the cost of playing the game was the cost of buying the game. Hours and hours of gameplay with thousands and thousands of individuals on privately owned and operated servers. Hell, that's part of the fun. Servers owned by individuals would setup clans and matches and do wacky things like turn off the gravity at unexpectedly.
No subscription fees there.
Maybe I just have warped expectations from playing online for years and years and never have had to pay any subscription fees to anybody. Except maybe my dignity to gamespy or whatnot.
Standard, terrible comparison. You are not paying anything for quake because you do not require the services that require a fee. Nobody is backing up your quake character. He isn't even stored on a server. Nobody is paid to keep a consistantly run server for you to connect to. Nobody even has to let you play on their server. And most of all, you are not connecting to a quake server with 2000 people.
No it's not a bad comparision at all. If you have a server with 2000 people that's 30,000 dollars per month you use to run that server and others (presuming they have similar numbers of people on them).
How much does it cost to maintain something like that?
I figure a cost of 3-5 dollars per month would be much more reasonable. The only way that I'd ever pay 15 dollars a month for a game is if that is the only game that I ever played on the internet, ever.
What if I like other massive multiplayer online games? Do I pay them a monthly fee too? I don't like to play just one game it gets boring.
But hey if you like it, swell. Not my cup of tea.
I'd be a lot more interested in these things if I could setup servers myself and interconnect them with other people's.
I wouldn't say that. Blizzard games attract a notorious fanbase, I'd be surprised if the average age of player was higher than 15. There's a number of idiots in the game, just read the forums. One of my guildmates just hit 60 and bought his epic mount, hes been harassed by pubbies begging for money every time he goes in a highly populated area.
NJDevil, where's your indignation when I'm the one being attacked? :roll:
Oh, sure, of course they do.....afterall, your guild started in UO and you're big and bad, so they of course they had to start there.
Exactly. You had guilds in UO, but there was no point nor need to expand them beyond a "core". You seen to be agreeing with me here, so I won't go on, but I know smaller guilds who were small for years who left UO for DAoC and exploded in numbers because, in an EQ-clone game, belonging to a large clan is the only way to find groups quickly for levelling.
FYI, reviews, especially of MMOs come out AFTER the game is released and by then the clans had already moved. Sure, most of the ones who moved to it promptly moved back to wherever they came from or stuck it out briefly until the next thing came along, but the fact that some high profile clans did, in fact, initially, without knowing fully what to expect, make the move tells you how desparate they were for a change and some new surroundings.
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