Is there any excuse for hitting a child?

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: RSMemphis
There is no excuse for hitting anyone. Be it child or adult.
Beating is bad, mmkay?

actually some people really just need to be hit really really hard

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
i am a firm believer in spanking.

i believe that there are times that all the groundings, times outs, no teevees, go to your rooms, lectures and etc do not have the same results as a good swift swat in the ass.

AMEN!

I was spanked with a hand , varying degrees depending on how old I was. As I group up my mother used a wooden yardstick/wooden spoon eventually because I just laughed.

It was the physical pain combined with knowing how much I upset her that was the combining effect.

After I started laughing at the wooden spoon the beatings stopped and the groundings started, because at that point control over my time/boredom became the greater punishment.

Would I beat my kids for misbehaving when I have kids? Probably not, Im not that type of person and I dont have the moral fortitude to do something like that, especially if I had a girl. I feel that may be a shortcoming on my part and end up causing issues in the future.

 

[her209]

Also how does one guage how harsh of a spanking is deserved? I mean, that's going to vary from parent to parent.

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
While I am a firm believer in spanking I am surprised at all the ppl in this thread that condone smacking a child across the face.

To me, that is a horrible thing to do. It is not only painful, but it is humiliating and demeaning.

And the reasoning I use for spanking are clear and defined terms. With VeggieFrog... if she broke something or screwed up in school or did something stupid, it was not reason to hit. I had the 3D rule. now matter what she did wrong, we would talk about it, and if need be, there would be punishment. But if she was Disprecpectful, Disobedient or Defiant... she I would play the gong on her ass.

I believe... and this is hard to explain in this limited mediummm... that children should respect and fear their parents. Not fear as is cowering, but having the knowledge to realize that if they break certain rules there will be an ass whooping. Not the fear that leaves them hiding in their room, or afraid to come home or anything like that... but fear is in telling themselves "if i do that, my mom will bubble my ass".

I tend to find that the parents that do not believe in spanking their kids under any circumstances are usually the kids that are screeching at the tops of thier lungs in a supermarket or raising hell in a restuarant while their parents think they are teaching them a lesson by ignoring them thru it.

I think this is the perfect mentality to have about the whole issue, and the proper way to deal with it. Too many parents would smack a kid for breaking something, and not for being rude to them. Its knowing when, where, and how to handle discipline that makes for a great parent

respect++

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: her209
Also how does one guage how harsh of a spanking is deserved? I mean, that's going to vary from parent to parent.

You should know your child, and gauge it on that. Most kids cry when they are spanked, not because of the physical pain, but because of the physical/emotional pain, realizing they've done something wrong and upset their parent. You shouldnt spank a 3 yr old the same you spank an 8 yr old, it would either be too much for one, or too little for another. You shouldnt have to bruise your child to discipline them, if it has come to that you need to seek another medium for discipline.

I understand that my mother used wooden objects on me, but I think when it came to the point that the hard spank with a bare hand wasnt enough, that there were probably other means needed to be pursued.

 

[hypn0tik]

/thread

 

[talyn00]

Originally posted by: dxkj

Originally posted by: her209
Also how does one guage how harsh of a spanking is deserved? I mean, that's going to vary from parent to parent.

You should know your child, and gauge it on that. Most kids cry when they are spanked, not because of the physical pain, but because of the physical/emotional pain, realizing they've done something wrong and upset their parent. You shouldnt spank a 3 yr old the same you spank an 8 yr old, it would either be too much for one, or too little for another. You shouldnt have to bruise your child to discipline them, if it has come to that you need to seek another medium for discipline.

I understand that my mother used wooden objects on me, but I think when it came to the point that the hard spank with a bare hand wasnt enough, that there were probably other means needed to be pursued.

Do you think its ok to use objects when spanking a child??

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Well if it's abuse then obviously not.

The problem is defining abuse.

My mom flew off the handle & slapped me a couple times when I was growing up, was I abused?

Viper GTS

hehe

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: hypn0tik
/thread

Awesome argument! :roll:

Kids today need a good beating every now and then. If you don't beat your kids when they fall out of line, the next thing you know your son will go off and bang some dude in the ass just out of spite.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
While I am a firm believer in spanking I am surprised at all the ppl in this thread that condone smacking a child across the face.

To me, that is a horrible thing to do. It is not only painful, but it is humiliating and demeaning.

And the reasoning I use for spanking are clear and defined terms. With VeggieFrog... if she broke something or screwed up in school or did something stupid, it was not reason to hit. I had the 3D rule. now matter what she did wrong, we would talk about it, and if need be, there would be punishment. But if she was Disprecpectful, Disobedient or Defiant... she I would play the gong on her ass.

I believe... and this is hard to explain in this limited mediummm... that children should respect and fear their parents. Not fear as is cowering, but having the knowledge to realize that if they break certain rules there will be an ass whooping. Not the fear that leaves them hiding in their room, or afraid to come home or anything like that... but fear is in telling themselves "if i do that, my mom will bubble my ass".

I tend to find that the parents that do not believe in spanking their kids under any circumstances are usually the kids that are screeching at the tops of thier lungs in a supermarket or raising hell in a restuarant while their parents think they are teaching them a lesson by ignoring them thru it.

Holy hell, I couldn't have said it any better.

*bow*

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Well if it's abuse then obviously not.

The problem is defining abuse.

My mom flew off the handle & slapped me a couple times when I was growing up, was I abused?

Viper GTS

hehe

LOL WTF?

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: talyn00

Originally posted by: dxkj

Originally posted by: her209
Also how does one guage how harsh of a spanking is deserved? I mean, that's going to vary from parent to parent.

You should know your child, and gauge it on that. Most kids cry when they are spanked, not because of the physical pain, but because of the physical/emotional pain, realizing they've done something wrong and upset their parent. You shouldnt spank a 3 yr old the same you spank an 8 yr old, it would either be too much for one, or too little for another. You shouldnt have to bruise your child to discipline them, if it has come to that you need to seek another medium for discipline.

I understand that my mother used wooden objects on me, but I think when it came to the point that the hard spank with a bare hand wasnt enough, that there were probably other means needed to be pursued.

Do you think its ok to use objects when spanking a child??

Not really, like I said above in bold.

But I would not judge a parent who calmly, not in anger, spanked their child using a paddle of some sort, as long as they were not overdoing it. A wide paddle, instead of a spoon/yard stick, can spank a child without bruising or leaving wicked welts... I dont think bruises/welts are neccessary to teach a child a lesson.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
While I am a firm believer in spanking I am surprised at all the ppl in this thread that condone smacking a child across the face.

To me, that is a horrible thing to do. It is not only painful, but it is humiliating and demeaning.

And the reasoning I use for spanking are clear and defined terms. With VeggieFrog... if she broke something or screwed up in school or did something stupid, it was not reason to hit. I had the 3D rule. now matter what she did wrong, we would talk about it, and if need be, there would be punishment. But if she was Disprecpectful, Disobedient or Defiant... she I would play the gong on her ass.

I believe... and this is hard to explain in this limited mediummm... that children should respect and fear their parents. Not fear as is cowering, but having the knowledge to realize that if they break certain rules there will be an ass whooping. Not the fear that leaves them hiding in their room, or afraid to come home or anything like that... but fear is in telling themselves "if i do that, my mom will bubble my ass".

I tend to find that the parents that do not believe in spanking their kids under any circumstances are usually the kids that are screeching at the tops of thier lungs in a supermarket or raising hell in a restuarant while their parents think they are teaching them a lesson by ignoring them thru it.

I think you've just about hit the nail on the head here. What you said is perfect.

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
i am a firm believer in spanking.

i believe that there are times that all the groundings, times outs, no teevees, go to your rooms, lectures and etc do not have the same results as a good swift swat in the ass.

:thumbsup:

 

[Mo0o]

There's no reason to phyiscally abuse anyone unless you or someone you care about was in physical harm yourself

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Well if it's abuse then obviously not.

The problem is defining abuse.

My mom flew off the handle & slapped me a couple times when I was growing up, was I abused?

Viper GTS

no, i wouldn't say that was abuse. but by today's standards child protective services may have taken you out of your home for that.

Moshquerade, would you hit a full grown person for being bad?

 

[meltdown75]

Discipline I can understand. Outright beatings for no apparent reasons... grrr.

 

[DaWhim]

I used to spank my nephew a few years ago. now, I just have to shout at him.

 

[EatSpam]

I have never hit my child. No spankings, ever.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Well if it's abuse then obviously not.

The problem is defining abuse.

My mom flew off the handle & slapped me a couple times when I was growing up, was I abused?

Viper GTS

no, i wouldn't say that was abuse. but by today's standards child protective services may have taken you out of your home for that.

Now, that would be abuse!

 

[Ornery]

If schools are expected to discipline kids without corporal punishment, then it should be no different for parents. Discipline does NOT equal corporal punishment and vise versa.

 

[Mrvile]

I wouldn't either. I can't bring myself to hit people period, so I would never hit my child.

 

[Proletariat]

I was beaten severely as a child

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
There's no reason to phyiscally abuse anyone unless you or someone you care about was in physical harm yourself

:thumbsup: Absolutely. Everys situation can be resolved in a way that doesn't invovle anyone getting hit and children aren't dumb. They don't need to be spanked to understand they did something wrong.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

I'm thankful to my parents for my share of flying slippers and spankings, God knows where I'd be without them.