Is there any excuse for hitting a child?

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moshquerade

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Well if it's abuse then obviously not.

The problem is defining abuse.

My mom flew off the handle & slapped me a couple times when I was growing up, was I abused?

Viper GTS
no, i wouldn't say that was abuse. but by today's standards child protective services may have taken you out of your home for that.

Moshquerade, would you hit a full grown person for being bad?
why, you wanna spank me? :evil:

 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Mo0o
There's no reason to phyiscally abuse anyone unless you or someone you care about was in physical harm yourself

:thumbsup: Absolutely. Everys situation can be resolved in a way that doesn't invovle anyone getting hit and children aren't dumb. They don't need to be spanked to understand they did something wrong.



of course kids arent dumb. its not about making them understand they did wrong. its about them knowing its wrong but doing it anyway. good parents make sure children know the rules and routines long before a spanking may be in order. which ties into what karenmarie said about fear.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: EatSpam

I have never hit my child. No spankings, ever.
how old is your kid?
I can say the same, and they're now 20 & 15.
no one here said you aren't a good parent if you don't smack your kid on the butt when it's warranted.

my mother would swat us with a wooden yardstick on the butt when we needed it and WE NEEDED IT from time to time. my father never spanked us ever in any way shape or form.

doesn't make my mother any better or worse parent than my father or you.

 

Ornery

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Why are schools expected to get the job done without? Why shouldn't they be allowed the same tools as your mom? :confused:
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Why are schools expected to get the job done without? Why shouldn't they be allowed the same tools as your mom? :confused:
schools shouldn't be the root of discipline. that should take place at home.
 

CarlKillerMiller

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No. There isn't a single reason to lay a hand on a child. People that believe it's a good way to discipline children are just wrong. The only result of beating a child is the child hating the parent. I know this from experience. The punishment should fit the crime. For example, if a kid watches TV instead of doing homework, ground the kid from watching TV. Don't hit him.
 

MX2

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My kids only get hand slaps if they are reaching for something dangerous....light socket/plug, stove, etc.

In the future, and as of now, I dont see any reason for anything more. I was spanked as a child now and again and I dont consider it was abuse at all, but I would like to try a different approach and steer clear of spankings.

Timeouts work fine for my 3 1/2 year old. My little girl isnt old enough yet to grasp the timeout concept;)
 

Baked

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Yes. You act like a little punk, I'm gonna treat you like a little punk, w/ a baseball bat to the head. Some children are so thick in the head no verbal discipline will get the message across. Besides, I don't believe in all those psychological crap. It'll make serial killers and rapists out of the children. Physical discipline is the way to go.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
No. There isn't a single reason to lay a hand on a child. People that believe it's a good way to discipline children are just wrong. The only result of beating a child is the child hating the parent. I know this from experience. The punishment should fit the crime. For example, if a kid watches TV instead of doing homework, ground the kid from watching TV. Don't hit him.
your opinion.

and i don't hate my parents. so your theory is bunk.
also, i was never swatted on the butt for watching TV instead of doing homework. :confused:

don't confuse beatings with a single swat to get the kid's attention.

 

kogase

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Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
No. There isn't a single reason to lay a hand on a child. People that believe it's a good way to discipline children are just wrong. The only result of beating a child is the child hating the parent. I know this from experience. The punishment should fit the crime. For example, if a kid watches TV instead of doing homework, ground the kid from watching TV. Don't hit him.

So you say. Many others say differently.

Children should be hit when they do something bad. That should be accompanied, however, by a calm, decisive, respectful explanation of what they did wrong, why they shouldn't have done it, and that they should never do it again. The spanking shows them you're serious, and the explanation shows them you still love them.
 

mcvickj

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There is a HUGE difference between spanking a child for discipline reasons vs. just reaching out and beating a child for no reason. I can recall a few times of being spanked for doing something wrong. I even remember several times when I saw the business end of my fathers leather belt. I can say for certain I didn't like it at the time but your damn sure whatever I was punished for never happend again. I don't hate my parents at all for the way they disciplined me.

Some of the kids I see now need a good spanking. You want a good example watch an epsiose of that Nanny 911 crap. No way my kids will ever act like that. Some of the things I saw I can't believe a grown adult would allow.
 

KarenMarie

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anecdote:

VeggieFrog has been spanked less than a dozen times in 21years. But her spankings mattered. They set a tone for her entire upbringing and helped develope who she became as she got older. We have always had a very close, loving, trusting relationship. One where I set the rules and determined what would happen when those rules were not followed. Anything not clearly defined by those rules were open for discussion and if she wanted me to reconsider my decisions, she was allowed to plead her case... but the end of the day... I ruled with complete impungity and my household was not a democracy.

She hung out... once... with a girl who came from a never spanked household. And while they were sitting in her bedroom the girls mom came in to drop off clean laundry. the girl got really snotty with the mother for not knocking first and ended up telling the mom to gtfo out and never come back without knocking and waiting for permission to enter. Had VeggieFrog EVER spoken to me like that... well, she would never eat with her own teeth again. VeggieFrog got very uncomfortable and made the 'code' phonecall for me to come and get her.

I am not saying that this girl spoke to her mom like that solely because she had never been hit/spanked... i am saying however, that there was never an option in my household to ever think that i would be spoken to like that.

(The code phone call = if ever anything had come up while she was out with friends that made her feel uncomfortable, she would call me and ask me what time she had to be home. since she never had a curfew... when i heard that question... i knew she wanted and excuse to leave wherever she was and told her to come home immediately. She could then say that her mom wanted her to come home and save face).
 

Ricemarine

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In public? No. (Seen it at Target. omfg)...

At home? Only if they deserved it. I got scared of the wooden feather stick... Cause that thing hurt at the handle..
 

KarenMarie

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Originally posted by: Ricemarine
In public? No. (Seen it at Target. omfg)...

At home? Only if they deserved it. I got scared of the wooden feather stick... Cause that thing hurt at the handle..

i do not think hitting in public is a good thing either. it only manages to cause a scene. This only makes the parent look no different than the child they are trying to discipline. I was bad/loud/misbehaving in public... so my parent punished me by making a scene in public.

I would just drag the kid to the car or the nearest toilet and smack their ass. then wait until they collected themselves and go about or business.


 

her209

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Originally posted by: Baked
Yes. You act like a little punk, I'm gonna treat you like a little punk, w/ a baseball bat to the head. Some children are so thick in the head no verbal discipline will get the message across. Besides, I don't believe in all those psychological crap. It'll make serial killers and rapists out of the children. Physical discipline is the way to go.
Holy crap! You take a baseball bat to your children's head? Holy f'n crap!
 

her209

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Also, do children that get spanked growing up are more at ease with physical punishment for those people who have committed crimes?
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: her209
Also, do children that get spanked growing up are more at ease with physical punishment for those people who have committed crimes?

As I child I was spank when I really screwed up bad with a belt I do have a high pain tolerance
 

imported_Lucifer

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I got various spankings as a child. She then stopped spanking and decided forcing jalapenos in my mouth was a better idea. At the time, i hated jalapenos. Now I eat them like nothing. I LOVE jalapenos and other peppers. LOL
 

Rudee

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For those who believe that parents should never hit their children obviously haven't been to Wal lMart on a Saturday.
 

pontifex

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when i was younger, my parents used to spank me a few times with a spatula. it was on the butt, never anywhere else.

i think a spanking on the butt is fine. anywhere else maybe would seem abuse to me.