Is there animosity against Elderly Asians from some in the black community?

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Are blacks targeting Eldering Asians?

  • There is some hostility towards Asians fro them Black Community, but very few blacks thinks this way

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • There is some hostility towards Asians from the Black Community, and it's rampant

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • There is no hostility towards Asian from the Black Community, it is right wing propaganda

    Votes: 4 14.8%

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Muse

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And I take issue with the thread title:

Is there animosity against Elderly Asians from some in the black community?

"The black community" is a term you hear a great deal in certain circles, certain contexts. I don't take issue with it, it's fine, but the black people who are physically attacking Asians, do not think in those terms, do not use that particular term in their thinking, in their every day language, you can be sure. They are certainly disaffected, bummed out, angry, reactive, at least semi-desperate, probably have suffered untold indignities and are continuing to do so. It's not members/representatives of "the black community" that's attacking Asians, it's messed up blacks, and others as we saw in the murderous rampage in Atlanta by a creepy fellow who looks white to me. I heard that he bought his gun perfectly legally earlier in the day. Must be a swell place, Atlanta.
 

jmagg

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And I take issue with the thread title:

Is there animosity against Elderly Asians from some in the black community?

"The black community" is a term you hear a great deal in certain circles, certain contexts. I don't take issue with it, it's fine, but the black people who are physically attacking Asians, do not think in those terms, do not use that particular term in their thinking, in their every day language, you can be sure. They are certainly disaffected, bummed out, angry, reactive, at least semi-desperate, probably have suffered untold indignities and are continuing to do so. It's not members/representatives of "the black community" that's attacking Asians, it's messed up blacks, and others as we saw in the murderous rampage in Atlanta by a creepy fellow who looks white to me. I heard that he bought his gun perfectly legally earlier in the day. Must be a swell place, Atlanta.

So, I guess we should not condemn entire groups of people for the actions of a few.
Check.
 

pmv

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So, I guess we should not condemn entire groups of people for the actions of a few.
Check.


Depends on the type of "group" we are talking about, and on the relationship between the "few" and the rest of that group.

For example, some groups have an internal organisation and the power to self-police, and some do not.
 

jameny5

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I thought it was the white MAGA folks who were assaulting Asian Americans because trump started that "China virus" aka "kung flu" shit. At least that's what they are saying. What did I miss?

OP, you got some statistics to back up the twitter article?
In New York City's case - a lot of those Black attackers had mental issues. I watch the news in the morning before work. Those attacks were not exclusively Asian. I don't condone attacking anybody because of race. I am Black/Hispanic myself. Whatever Trump said about Asians has been repeated and they have been targeted by those words. There are other reasons Blacks do not like Asians too. I try to be courteous to all races. It's hard to compose your self in this politically hostile world of the USA where everything is scrutinized and is excepted because of some oddball reason. We were taught in our younger years about right and wrong. Where did those days go? Even cursive writing is getting retired in parts of the USA. People of legal age need to learn this to sign documents when they reach this age. I believe President Biden made a statement and signed an executive order concerning this. And the great state of Texas and their isolationist rancor give the country a headache along with it's Senator Ted Cruz! Where is an Excedrin when you need one?
 
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Muse

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And the great state of Texas and their isolationist rancor give the country a headache along with it's Senator Ted Cruz! Where is an Excedrin when you need one?
I've been blessed with a head that rarely aches and I've never had a migraine. Never a headache that stressed me. I've never even considered taking pills for a headache. I have those pain relievers in the fridge, but I can go years between taking them. I can't stand Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley or DeSantis. But they all are quite a ways behind Donald Trump for me when it comes to repugnance. It only takes 2 seconds of him to gross me out. Yes, every time.
 
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woolfe9998

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Oh look, this attacker was white:


And the elderly victim beat the crap out of him LOL.

Happened in the bay area, again. :( Probably because we have a huge Asian population here.
 

Muse

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Oh look, this attacker was white:


And the elderly victim beat the crap out of him LOL.

Happened in the bay area, again. :( Probably because we have a huge Asian population here.
I heard on the news last night something that astounded me. In my county, Alameda, the dominant ethnicity is Asian, they make up 31%. That's more than any other including whites. It's also true of Santa Clara County.

I like Asians. IMO they are by and large the least problematical ethnicity around. In addition, there's much to like. I won't get specific about either of these statements, but I could/can.
 
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compuwiz1

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Bad people come in any skin color. My wife is Asian and we are in California. She says she has seen no change in life, in general, or the way she is treated and she has seen nothing happening to her or friends that would make them uncomfortable. She brought up something though and it was to keep an eye on the media, that she senses another narrative being born. So I asked if she figured out what is going on, because frankly, I am aware of only a couple attacks. She said the narrative will be that it's white supremacy and the left will be using them (Asians) for forming another BLM type movement. The people at the head of these kinds of organizations aren't the most decent people, like Susan Rosenberg who has a major fundraising function for BLM... and she's a convicted domestic terrorist. It ends up being the white people up the food chain in these organizations that make the money, while the cause gets very little. Anyway, I told her it won't work, creating a victim group, to use as political pawns. They're too educated to be used like that.
 

MrSquished

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Bad people come in any skin color. My wife is Asian and we are in California. She says she has seen no change in life, in general, or the way she is treated and she has seen nothing happening to her or friends that would make them uncomfortable. She brought up something though and it was to keep an eye on the media, that she senses another narrative being born. So I asked if she figured out what is going on, because frankly, I am aware of only a couple attacks. She said the narrative will be that it's white supremacy and the left will be using them (Asians) for forming another BLM type movement. The people at the head of these kinds of organizations aren't the most decent people, like Susan Rosenberg who has a major fundraising function for BLM... and she's a convicted domestic terrorist. It ends up being the white people up the food chain in these organizations that make the money, while the cause gets very little. Anyway, I told her it won't work, creating a victim group, to use as political pawns. They're too educated to be used like that.

So your wife hasn't noticed anything, so that means the experiences of many more Asian Americans are invalid.

Sorry, your wife sounds as politically fucked in the head as you do. Two Wackadoo reactionary fascist peas in a pod.

Didn't you just post a list that in Biden's first 50 days he's already fucked up all these things, it was insane. YOU are insane.
 

compuwiz1

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So your wife hasn't noticed anything, so that means the experiences of many more Asian Americans are invalid.

Sorry, your wife sounds as politically fucked in the head as you do. Two Wackadoo reactionary fascist peas in a pod.

Didn't you just post a list that in Biden's first 50 days he's already fucked up all these things, it was insane. YOU are insane.

Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

I will stand by what I said. The media is selectively reporting stories to create a narrative that there is this mass amount of violence against Asians and that it's whitey. They will cover it every time it is a white person, but they'll kind of skip it, when it turns out to be a person of color. Remember, they have a narrative to promote and protect, so the democrats have all their victims to talk about during the elections. Think they wanna cover the democrat person of color that beat, killed or raped a white person? Not gonna happen.
 

MrSquished

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Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

I will stand by what I said. The media is selectively reporting stories to create a narrative that there is this mass amount of violence against Asians and that it's whitey. They will cover it every time it is a white person, but they'll kind of skip it, when it turns out to be a person of color. Remember, they have a narrative to promote and protect, so the democrats have all their victims to talk about during the elections. Think they wanna cover the democrat person of color that beat, killed or raped a white person? Not gonna happen.

Uh the attacks have all made the news, this whole thread is about the violence against Asians from non-whites, which all made it to the news. I've been seeing these attacks circulating the news for a while now. But yea, going on a mass shooting rampage with 8 dead is definitely taking it to another level with media coverage - those tend to really get the exposure the most. A stabbing here, a racial slur there, a spitting incident or shove there, those get some traction, and deservedly so and should get a bit more perhaps, but a mass shooting? Yeah those go big time. I know, crazy right. You are so fucking ignorant. But then again, if one were to read your posts, Biden has already fucked up something like Middle East peace and started an energy crisis already if I remember your posts right? I dunno, something crazy like that. Fucking loon.
 

brycejones

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Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

I will stand by what I said. The media is selectively reporting stories to create a narrative that there is this mass amount of violence against Asians and that it's whitey. They will cover it every time it is a white person, but they'll kind of skip it, when it turns out to be a person of color. Remember, they have a narrative to promote and protect, so the democrats have all their victims to talk about during the elections. Think they wanna cover the democrat person of color that beat, killed or raped a white person? Not gonna happen.
Fuck your feels snowflake
 

WelshBloke

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Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

Dude, you brought your wife into this as some sort of trump card. How about you realise that you're the arsehole for throwing her into an argument she's not involved in to try to score a cheap point?
 

brycejones

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Dude, you brought your wife into this as some sort of trump card. How about you realise that you're the arsehole for throwing her into an argument she's not involved in to try to score a cheap point?
Compuwiz1 is a typical conservative. What he says should not be questioned or criticized.
 

JEDIYoda

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Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

I will stand by what I said. The media is selectively reporting stories to create a narrative that there is this mass amount of violence against Asians and that it's whitey. They will cover it every time it is a white person, but they'll kind of skip it, when it turns out to be a person of color. Remember, they have a narrative to promote and protect, so the democrats have all their victims to talk about during the elections. Think they wanna cover the democrat person of color that beat, killed or raped a white person? Not gonna happen.
The old you attacked my wife routine........sad pathetic, since you brought her in to the discussion!!@!@!!! I agree with MrSquished!!
Uh the attacks have all made the news, this whole thread is about the violence against Asians from non-whites, which all made it to the news. I've been seeing these attacks circulating the news for a while now. But yea, going on a mass shooting rampage with 8 dead is definitely taking it to another level with media coverage - those tend to really get the exposure the most. A stabbing here, a racial slur there, a spitting incident or shove there, those get some traction, and deservedly so and should get a bit more perhaps, but a mass shooting? Yeah those go big time. I know, crazy right. You are so fucking ignorant. But then again, if one were to read your posts, Biden has already fucked up something like Middle East peace and started an energy crisis already if I remember your posts right? I dunno, something crazy like that. Fucking loon.
 

ivwshane

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Who would have thought the traitor was also a little bitch? I did.

Can you imagine the dumb ass conversations in that household?
 

HomerJS

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Bad people come in any skin color. My wife is Asian and we are in California. She says she has seen no change in life, in general, or the way she is treated and she has seen nothing happening to her or friends that would make them uncomfortable. She brought up something though and it was to keep an eye on the media, that she senses another narrative being born. So I asked if she figured out what is going on, because frankly, I am aware of only a couple attacks. She said the narrative will be that it's white supremacy and the left will be using them (Asians) for forming another BLM type movement. The people at the head of these kinds of organizations aren't the most decent people, like Susan Rosenberg who has a major fundraising function for BLM... and she's a convicted domestic terrorist. It ends up being the white people up the food chain in these organizations that make the money, while the cause gets very little. Anyway, I told her it won't work, creating a victim group, to use as political pawns. They're too educated to be used like that.
I'll table for a second that I don't believe one word of this but in the sprit of honest debate...

I'm pleased that you wife has not experienced the numerous stories I've seen recalled not only by Asian reporters but people interviewed on the streets. I watched a few times Asian reports break down into tears live while covering the Atlanta story, recalling their own stories of abuse. The issue is the ever increasing scourge of racism in America.

Seems a more likely conversation with your "Asian wife" would have been the effect of Trump's rhetoric on the Asian community. Neither you or her think it made things worse for them?

Your continued attempts to label BLM as some sort of terrorist organization is less then transparent.
 
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So your wife hasn't noticed anything, so that means the experiences of many more Asian Americans are invalid.

Sorry, your wife sounds as politically fucked in the head as you do. Two Wackadoo reactionary fascist peas in a pod.

Didn't you just post a list that in Biden's first 50 days he's already fucked up all these things, it was insane. YOU are insane.

Well, b-a-a-a-hs tend to leave things open for interpretation so I'm not surprised he doesn't think she's noticed anything.
 
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HomerJS

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Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

I will stand by what I said. The media is selectively reporting stories to create a narrative that there is this mass amount of violence against Asians and that it's whitey. They will cover it every time it is a white person, but they'll kind of skip it, when it turns out to be a person of color. Remember, they have a narrative to promote and protect, so the democrats have all their victims to talk about during the elections. Think they wanna cover the democrat person of color that beat, killed or raped a white person? Not gonna happen.
I guess all our intelligence agencies have a narrative to promote when they clearly state the #1 terrorism threat if from white boys.

Maybe the media was just supposed ignore the mass murder in Atlanta.
Maybe the media should have ignored Charleston
Maybe the media should have ignored Pittsburgh
Maybe the media should have ignored El Paso.

Don't worry your pretty little head, next time a black person walks into a store and blows away 10 people yelling death to whitey I'm sure the media will cover it.
 

positivedoppler

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Crazy people shouldn't call other people crazy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You can come at me all you want, I simply don't give a shit. You attack my wife, who does not post here, and that's a problem. GO FUCK YOURSELF, ASSHOLE!

I will stand by what I said. The media is selectively reporting stories to create a narrative that there is this mass amount of violence against Asians and that it's whitey. They will cover it every time it is a white person, but they'll kind of skip it, when it turns out to be a person of color. Remember, they have a narrative to promote and protect, so the democrats have all their victims to talk about during the elections. Think they wanna cover the democrat person of color that beat, killed or raped a white person? Not gonna happen.

It's ridiculous that your wife is Asian, I'm Asian but we're being called racist in this thread. People attacking your wife, that's a step too far and really shows how little their characters are.
 

MrSquished

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It's ridiculous that your wife is Asian, I'm Asian but we're being called racist in this thread. People attacking your wife, that's a step too far and really shows how little their characters are.

You are a joke. You started this thread with a specific mindset, and even when lots of things were presented to counter most of your narrative, you mostly ignored it or did mental gymnastics around it. Compuwiz is one of the most reactionary fascist Trumphumping wackadoos in this forum. Nobody called his wife racist, I just said she is probably has the same political mindset as his own fucked up worldview, which is literally mental institution insane, otherwise really, how could anyone stay in that kind of marriage with that kind of loon. Also, just like there are racists who are white, there are some who are black and some who are Asian. Go play the victim or whatever makes you happy.

At least we have a president now who is trying to address the issues against the Asian community vs the last one who literally encouraged it with his language, something you repeatedly ignored in this thread because it countered some of your racist narrative.
 
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JEDIYoda

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It's ridiculous that your wife is Asian, I'm Asian but we're being called racist in this thread. People attacking your wife, that's a step too far and really shows how little their characters are.
It is not a step to far! Compuwiz1 chose to use his wife as an example...thus she is fair game! You don`t get a pass on your stupidity! All he had to do was leave is supposed "asian" wife out...instead he chose otherwise! His problem!