Is there animosity against Elderly Asians from some in the black community?

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Are blacks targeting Eldering Asians?

  • There is some hostility towards Asians fro them Black Community, but very few blacks thinks this way

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • There is some hostility towards Asians from the Black Community, and it's rampant

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • There is no hostility towards Asian from the Black Community, it is right wing propaganda

    Votes: 4 14.8%

  • Total voters
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Folks here aren't capable of having a valid debate/discussion in anything remotely revolving around race unless it's simply to proclaim how they are victims of white oppression and that is the Trump card (har har) for ending the discussion.. It's just one of those topics that they can't handle. Thus they prefer to just pull out a race card or something along those lines in an attempt to steer the conversation into "You're racist" instead of addressing a problem.

Goodluck though.


lol quoting myself again for documentation purposes for the OP.

Doesn't matter who you are - what your point is - and what facts are presented. They have their established agenda. No amount of facts will deter them. It's a cult of idiocracy.
 

positivedoppler

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What was the worst thing Trump said about the connection between Asians and the virus? These attacks have a lot in common to the "knockout game".



"One last thing: Race is an obvious element in all of this. In almost every report, the assailants are described as young black men, and many of the victims have been white. It’s hard not to see the sensationalized coverage of “knockout”—and before that, “wilding”—as a reflection of our national fear of young black men. Indeed, in the more sinister corners of the Internet, you can find people who argue that these incidents are the opening shots in a “race war” by “feral black youth.”



How are Asians "marginalized"? Because somebody somewhere said they had slit eyes? And obviously liberals like to try to treat them differently than other POC.


Interesting, I did not know about this knockout game.
 

positivedoppler

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Citation please.

That is not a citation. That's anecdotal evidence from a dubious source.

Like I said, you are free to change my mind. Almost every video I've seen shows the attackers as being black. You're telling me to ignore my obversation base on youtube search, which I'm willling to if you can offer me statistical evidence that only a small percentage of the recent physical and violent attacks on Asian Elderly are caused by Blacks.
 

JD50

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Like I said, you are free to change my mind. Almost every video I've seen shows the attackers as being black. You're telling me to ignore my obversation base on youtube search, which I'm willling to if you can offer me statistical evidence that only a small percentage of the recent physical and violent attacks on Asian Elderly are caused by Blacks.

You are making the claim so it is up to you to provide the evidence. "I watched a youtube video" isn't evidence.
 
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Like I said, you are free to change my mind. Almost every video I've seen shows the attackers as being black. You're telling me to ignore my obversation base on youtube search, which I'm willling to if you can offer me statistical evidence that only a small percentage of the recent physical and violent attacks on Asian Elderly are caused by Blacks.


Allow me to translate what is happening to you:

"You're cherry picking data!"

"OMG that is not an actual representation of what is happening! That's just anecdotal evidence from unverified sources!"





Meanwhile - when posted directly from the same idiots in this thread....


More fallout from that racist ex President and his racist supporters.

republicans at their best.


LOL. The hypocrisy... the irony... the idiocy.... Is at exponential levels...

Keep it up, tools.
 
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positivedoppler

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You are making the claim so it is up to you to provide the evidence. "I watched a youtube video" isn't evidence.
I didn't watch "a" youtube video. I went through the first 30 and there was a clear trend. And these aren't just youtube videos, they're mostly replays from local news source.

I did notice how you manipulate what I wrote about youtube, to make it look like I watched one video and ran home with a conclusion.
Twisting other people's word is not a great way to engage in a thoughtful conversation.
 

cytg111

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Funny, nobody has EVER made that claim except you. In fact I've said the opposite. Try harder
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Exactly... But some1's mind breaks down if we dont fit that particular mold that he has been issued. You see, some1 is good and proper red-pilled ... You just so blind you cant even see the truth.
 
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Leeea

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Cherry picking the news reports to attempt to show one minority is evil does not make it so.

It certainly makes positivedropper a racist piece of shit. Taking the time to dig around news reports cherry-picking to find ways to smear minorities? Hatred is one hell of a drug/motivator.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Cherry picking the news reports to attempt to show one minority is evil does not make it so.

It certainly makes @positivedropper a racist piece of shit. Taking the time to dig around news reports cherry-picking to find ways to smear minorities? Hatred is one hell of a drug/motivator.
Fear is the mindkiller.
 
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cytg111

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I didn't watch "a" youtube video. I went through the first 30 and there was a clear trend. And these aren't just youtube videos, they're mostly replays from local news source.

I did notice how you manipulate what I wrote about youtube, to make it look like I watched one video and ran home with a conclusion.
Twisting other people's word is not a great way to engage in a thoughtful conversation.
What is your search criteria? Exactly.
 
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ivwshane

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This entire thread is based entirely on some assholes youtube algorithm!!!
LOL

Threads over guys.

He doesn’t even realize he’s being “brainwashed”. It’s actually pretty sad. We are watching someone, in real time, go down the rabbit hole.
 
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Leeea

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This entire thread is based entirely on some assholes youtube algorithm!!!
LOL

Threads over guys.

Threads not over, we have a new topic, googles unintended consequence of radicalizing people with its algorithm.

"elderly asian attacked"

I just realized positivedoppler is just another victim here, of an algorithm designed to get as many clicks as possible. He was monetized into racism!

He doesn’t even realize he’s being “brainwashed”. It’s actually pretty sad. We are watching someone, in real time, go down the rabbit hole.

This is how it happens. This is how big tech brainwashes people into extremism. Completely unintentional, but extremely damaging.

Something needs to be done about algorithms that destroy society.


note: my edit for this post when in after ivwshane liked it
 
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positivedoppler

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What kind of bull shit question is that? He implied you are being fed videos by an algorithm designed to feed you videos similar to things you have already watched. Not that any of the attacks were faked.

and why is Elderly Asians capitalized?
"Elderly" shouldn't be cap, it's a typo. Is it a big deal?

So if the attacks aren't fake, whey are the vast majority of the videos of blacks committing the attack?
 

Maxima1

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Threads not over, we have a new topic, googles unintended consequence of radicalizing people with its algorithm.

I just realized positivedoppler is just another victim here, of an algorithm designed to get as many clicks as possible.

This is how it happens. This is how big tech brainwashes people into extremism. Completely unintentional, but extremely damaging.

Something needs to be done about algorithms that destroy society.

note: my edit for this post when in after ivwshane liked it

Some of you need to look in the mirror. 😂

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brycejones

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So if the attacks aren't fake, whey are the vast majority of the videos of blacks committing the attack?

I'm not going to answer that question because I DON'T HAVE THE DATA. See if you can find some actual DATA on the subject besides you-tube search results. We do know though that web platforms will feed you results similar to content you have already consumed. So that is one possible explanation for what you are seeing. But I offer this up as a THEORY only.

PLEASE FIND SOME ACTUAL REAL DATA BESIDES YOU-TUBE VIDEOS AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
 
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shortylickens

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the first time I heard about this part of society was in the news during the Rodney King riots.
Asians (mostly Koreans) had few work opportunities and didn't want to be indentured servants to rich white people so they opened up small stores in poor neighborhoods. Of course in LA for decades the poor neighborhoods were almost exclusively black and brown.

The history between the races is long and complex but basically they don't get along well, at least in LA. The cops treated both poorly but whenever there was a dispute between the two, police almost always sided with the Asian business owners. White Los Angeles residents didn't love them, but they were generally seen as less troublesome than black residents.

This difference in treatment slowly grew to animosity and in 1991 a shop owners wife shot a teen girl in the back, allegedly for stealing one bottle of orange juice. The woman received a slap on the wrist. No prison time, a little bit of community service and a small fine. It helped stimulate the outrage that eventually led to the 1992 riots.

Remember, that event was NOT about one man being beaten on the freeway by a bunch of cops. It was about decades of abuse turning into constant hostility and finally boiling over into group anger. Oh, and many of the properties destroyed and looted were Asian stores in black neighborhoods. The cops made no effort to protect them after the first hour of the riot.

I'm still reading the Christopher Commission Report and they touch on Asian/Black relations a few times.
 
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I'm open to all possibilities, thus, the thread. Everyone is welcome to post proof against the observation that the overwhelming number attacks against elderly Asians are committed by Blacks. I merely did search on youtube for "elderly asian attacked" and noted that almost all the attackers are black.

You aren't seriously suggesting that constitutes a legitimate methodology for estabilshing a statistic? Does every case of an elderly asian being attacked end up with its own YouTube video?

It also doesn't seem to involve any evidence as to motive. Nor are you controlling for economic status or geography.
 
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Torn Mind

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I see the usual political white knighters who think they care but only feed their egos have engaged in persecuting the OP.

The world is not as black-and-white as your "moral purists" think it is and antagonism between all sorts of varying groups and even within groups exist; such things are documented in fictional literature throughout the ages.

Now, with only a sample size of 3, it would be very difficult to extrapolate to the entirety of the Black population that there is a propensity towards being violent against Asians. But it is fair to question whether these particular individuals do some racism.

Looking up the case of Mr. Muslim, he is the usual example of the CR justice system giving slaps on the wrist or no real punishment for prior crimes. People like him are those who understand the legal system can be pushed to its limits and he still can be a free man. His 2019 charges for Assault were completely dismissed, for example. In August of 2020, he pled no contest to an Assault charge. Since he assault another in February this year, it's clear he wasn't in jail at the time. It's likely his probation expired when he pushed the Asian, as criminals usually don't break probation unless they are severely arrogant or maladjusted.
Mr. Muslim's case profile would be an extreme inconvenience for those adhere to the most popular narrative of the past year, to say the least. Because it's clear he was free to live on the streets and not incarcerated "unjustly". His 2015 case had him jailed for only 30 days and his probation for that expired on January 16, 2021.

While this establishes a clear history of violent behavior and, relatively speaking, mere slap on the wrists from the state. That does not prove racism per se. It will be absolutely interesting to see his final adjudication in this case.


Antoine Watson, having committed his crime in San Francisco, does not have to worry about internet folks checking his records because San Fran does not make available online its criminal cases. A rather interesting decision...