Is there animosity against Elderly Asians from some in the black community?

[pauldun170]

Answer this question and be honest if that's possible.

Are you upset about Asians being targeted because of their race

or

Are you creaming your pants because you found some Asian people attacked and the perp was black?

Now be honest.

If this thread is your evidence racism is an equal problem from the left and the right you are a galaxy away from the truth. That's like saying because we have Oprah that proves this country treats blacks and white equally.

Son, you have a lot to learn

While I'm tempted to go into details, talk about demographics and data, historical stuff and all that other bullshit no one bothers to read, let just say that the point of this thread isn't about discovery or learning anything.
Threads like this are pretty predictable at this point. At best, its like a daily challenge to figure out what youtube channel\talk radio\conservative outlet inspired OP to post this kind of crap up here. Always carefully manicured to insure that only incidents involving black men are brought up excluding all others, typically by people have never lived or frequented the communities that are involved.

Anyway, back to what's been covered extensively

Covid 'hate crimes' against Asian Americans on rise

President Biden signs a bipartisan law to "stop the hatred and the bias" against Asian Americans.

www.bbc.com

Anti-Asian hate crimes increased by nearly 150% in 2020, mostly in N.Y. and L.A., new report says (nbcnews.com)

Why More Policing Isn't the Answer to a Rise in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

Activists say solidarity between communities of color is essential

time.com

 

[MrSquished]

Again, please stop with the high school level name callings.

Did someone interview all those black suspects and get confirmation that they were following Trump's marching orders?

But lets for the sake of argument go with your assumption it's due to Trump's rhetoric, why is it only Blacks are committing the crimes?

I'm not saying they were 100% influenced by Trump or not, but it's you that is assuming that all blacks in big liberal cities are not Trump/GOP supporters or influenced by his words.

And what do you think is more likely, black Antifa got together in secret meetings since Covid and spread anti-Asian rhetoric, or folks were influenced by the hateful rhetoric of a person holding the highest office of the land. Because the spike in anti-Asian violence has been since Covid. And I only saw the Trumper party using words that could be construed hurtful to Asians, and I only saw progressives saying to stop using that rhetoric.

Also Joe Biden literally just specifically condemned anti-Asian violence during a nationwide address, something the previous president didn't have the class or dignity to do.

Big cities have big populations, so even when a smaller percentage of them support a hateful president, that's still a lot of bad hombres numbers wise.

 

[brycejones]

Is there a reason why the OP is limiting the query to elderly Asians only?

 

[positivedoppler]

Is there a reason why the OP is limiting the query to elderly Asians only?

Yes, I'm worried about my parents

 

[HomerJS]

Yes, I'm worried about my parents

Based on this thread your parents are the ones that should be worried.

 

[positivedoppler]

I'm not saying they were 100% influenced by Trump or not, but it's you that is assuming that all blacks in big liberal cities are not Trump/GOP supporters or influenced by his words.

I haven't made a single assumption regarding the motive of anyone. I've only stated my observation and offer the question with three choices to explain my observation and it appers people here are too terrified to even respond to the poll. People are welcome to answer the poll question and state their opinion or even offer facts to back up their opinion.

 

[MrSquished]

I haven't made a single assumption regarding the motive of anyone. I've only stated my observation and offer the question with three choices to explain my observation and it appers people here are too terrified to even respond to the poll. People are welcome to answer the poll question and state their opinion or even offer facts to back up their opinion.

actually you certainly did make an assumption of what you considered could not be the motive of the attackers:

You can try to pin this on MAGA crowd, but each one of these attacks are at the heart of the biggest liberal cities and the attackers sure don't look like your typical Trump supporters.

I also did offer you facts. You just don't respond to them.

 

[positivedoppler]

actually you certainly did make an assumption of what you considered could not be the motive of the attackers:

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And which of my wording lead you to believe I made an assumption regarding the motive of the attackers?

 

[96Firebird]

The funniest part of this thread is that people here think the savages that attacked these innocent people voted or are affiliated with a political party.

 

[MrSquished]

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And which of my wording lead you to believe I made an assumption regarding the motive of the attackers?

I literally quoted your words.

You assumed what was not the motive/inspiration of the attackers. You assumed it could not possibly be a Trump supporter and by extension, someone influenced by Trumpism. Also, one doesn't always have to be a 100% Trump supporter to agree with him on something.

You also made the assumption that because something happens in a liberal city, it can't be a right winger. I broke down the population of a major liberal city and broke down how even when a small slice of a demographic believes something, that's still a hell of a lot of people.

 

[positivedoppler]

I literally quoted your words.

You assumed what was not the motive/inspiration of the attackers. You assumed it could not possibly be a Trump supporter and by extension, someone influenced by Trumpism. Also, one doesn't always have to be a 100% Trump supporter to agree with him on something.

You also made the assumption that because something happens in a liberal city, it can't be a right winger. I broke down the population of a major liberal city and broke down how even when a small slice of a demographic believes something, that's still a hell of a lot of people.

Sure, and again, show me the exact quote of mine that lead you to all this conclusion about me.
Also, don't forget my earlier question to you. Why is it that the majority of Trump supporter who are white males are not the ones committing these crimes about Asians.

 

[MrSquished]

Sure, and again, show me the exact quote of mine that lead you to all this conclusion about me.
Also, don't forget my earlier question to you. Why is it that the majority of Trump supporter who are white males are not the ones committing these crimes about Asians.

I quoted it above, what is wrong with you? Here I'll even bold them for you if that helps.

You can try to pin this on MAGA crowd, but each one of these attacks are at the heart of the biggest liberal cities and the attackers sure don't look like your typical Trump supporters.

I have seen multiple occasions where white folks have said degrading things to Asian Americans, that happened to get caught and went viral enough for me to see them. I'm sure there are racist black people, there are racists in all the races and within the races and ethnicities. Why are most of the violent attacks that are happening happen to be african american males (I also saw one attacker in Cali that looked hispanic), I think a lot has to do with economics. Inner city groups, which are primarily African American, are most affected by poverty, and turn to violence due to this. Asians are seen as soft targets (as per a police spokesperson in NYC).

 

[MrSquished]

Why don't you answer the very simple question I've asked multiple times, why do you think the violence against Asians has increased since Covid? You clearly seem to think it can't be anybody that supports Trump, but yet he, and folks in his party, are the ones who used words that can easily be turned into hateful rhetoric against Asians. Do you think this influenced people or do you feel the rise in anti-Asian crime stems from something else, and if so, like what? Was there a secret meeting among black Antifa? Please give an answer and elaborate.

 

[positivedoppler]

I quoted it above, what is wrong with you? Here I'll even bold them for you if that helps.

But each one of these attacks are at the heart of the biggest liberal cities and the attackers sure don't look like your typical Trump supporters.

I have seen multiple occasions where white folks have said degrading things to Asian Americans, that happened to get caught and went viral enough for me to see them. I'm sure there are racist black people, there are racists in all the races and within the races and ethnicities. Why are most of the violent attacks that are happening happen to be african american males (I also saw one attacker in Cali that looked hispanic), I think a lot has to do with economics. Inner city groups, which are primarily African American, are most affected by poverty, and turn to violence due to this. Asians are seen as soft targets (as per a police spokesperson in NYC).

Finally, a quote. You made the claim that the violence was caused by Trump Supporter. I offered a rebuttal to your theory, but in no way am I making assumptions in the minds of the attackers, you are.

 

[HomerJS]

I haven't made a single assumption regarding the motive of anyone. I've only stated my observation and offer the question with three choices to explain my observation and it appers people here are too terrified to even respond to the poll. People are welcome to answer the poll question and state their opinion or even offer facts to back up their opinion.

Just like you are too terrified to answer my question?

 

[pauldun170]

What is the Black Community?

 

[MrSquished]

Finally, a quote. You made the claim that the violence was caused by Trump Supporter. I offered a rebuttal to your theory, but in no way am I making assumptions in the minds of the attackers, you are.

Finally, a quote? Holy shit I literally quoted that exact quote before and you simply ignored it. You are a piece of work.

Also I made no claim that the violence was definitely caused by Trump supporters, I mean I literally said that in this thread.

I'm not saying they were 100% influenced by Trump or not, but it's you that is assuming that all blacks in big liberal cities are not Trump/GOP supporters or influenced by his words.

I did post facts and things that contradict your claim that it wasn't them or wasn't those influenced by his words though.

You are in denial of the things you say, you make terrible assumptions, you misrepresent the positions of others and you simply ignore questions that are too hard for you to answer because, I can guess, they might screw with your already made up worldview. Good luck with that.

 

[positivedoppler]

Just like you are too terrified to answer my question?

I ignored you because you were condescending and rude. Also, please don't refer to me as "son." You know nothing about me and I know nothing about you.

 

[positivedoppler]

Finally, a quote? Holy shit I literally quoted that exact quote before and you simply ignored it. You are a piece of work.

Also I made no claim that the violence was definitely caused by Trump supporters, I mean I literally said that in this thread.



I did post facts and things that contradict your claim that it wasn't them or wasn't those influenced by his words though.

You are in denial of the things you say, you make terrible assumptions, you misrepresent the positions of others and you simply ignore questions that are too hard for you to answer because, I can guess, they might screw with your already made up worldview. Good luck with that.

Yes good luck to you. A converstation with you is going nowhere as you can't stop making assumption about how I think,, but good luck to you, I have no hard feeling one way or another.

 

[HomerJS]

While I'm tempted to go into details, talk about demographics and data, historical stuff and all that other bullshit no one bothers to read, let just say that the point of this thread isn't about discovery or learning anything.
Threads like this are pretty predictable at this point. At best, its like a daily challenge to figure out what youtube channel\talk radio\conservative outlet inspired OP to post this kind of crap up here. Always carefully manicured to insure that only incidents involving black men are brought up excluding all others, typically by people have never lived or frequented the communities that are involved.

Anyway, back to what's been covered extensively

Covid 'hate crimes' against Asian Americans on rise

President Biden signs a bipartisan law to "stop the hatred and the bias" against Asian Americans.

www.bbc.com

Anti-Asian hate crimes increased by nearly 150% in 2020, mostly in N.Y. and L.A., new report says (nbcnews.com)

Why More Policing Isn't the Answer to a Rise in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

Activists say solidarity between communities of color is essential

time.com

And the OP will continue to miss the point. Back on Feb 25 I started a thread about the rise in Asian hate crimes out of concern the effect racist rhetoric was having on a segment of our population. If the OP thinks taunting Asian people with phrases like "kung flu" was a coicidence and had nothing to do with Trump's attacks are fooling themselves.

OP's motive is to prove his conservative version of what racism really is.

 

[MrSquished]

And the OP will continue to miss the point. Back on Feb 25 I started a thread about the rise in Asian hate crimes out of concern the effect racist rhetoric was having on a segment of our population. If the OP thinks taunting Asian people with phrases like "kung flu" was a coicidence and had nothing to do with Trump's attacks are fooling themselves.

OP's motive is to prove his conservative version of what racism really is.

The OP is completely intellectually dishonest and has been exposed in this thread so quickly and with quotes it's not even funny.

 

[HomerJS]

I ignored you because you were condescending and rude. Also, please don't refer to me as "son." You know nothing about me and I know nothing about you.

I know 2 things.

You are a bit of a snowflake.
Your premise of this thread is completely misleading as it attempts to deflect the blame of racism back to the black community where is doesn't belong.

I've said for years any single person can be racist but the issue of racism disproportionately lies with one side.

 

[Maxima1]

Why don't you answer the very simple question I've asked multiple times, why do you think the violence against Asians has increased since Covid? You clearly seem to think it can't be anybody that supports Trump, but yet he, and folks in his party, are the ones who used words that can easily be turned into hateful rhetoric against Asians. Do you think this influenced people or do you feel the rise in anti-Asian crime stems from something else, and if so, like what? Was there a secret meeting among black Antifa? Please give an answer and elaborate.

What was the worst thing Trump said about the connection between Asians and the virus? These attacks have a lot in common to the "knockout game".

That’s Right: ‘Knockout’ Is a Myth

Much like ‘wilding’ before it, the furor over the ‘knockout game’ bears all the hallmarks of an overblown panic over a crime wave that doesn’t exist.

www.thedailybeast.com

But it’s this media panic—as well as the strongly anecdotal nature of the coverage—that should give us pause before we declare the “knockout game” a national problem. After all, it wouldn’t be the first media furor over teen behavior. Recall the panics over “wilding”—where teenagers were attacking innocent bystanders en masse—or “headlight flashing,” where gang members were marking their victims during nighttime drives. In both cases, you could find instances that fit either description, but in a country with tens of millions of teenagers, where you could find examples of almost any behavior, you need more than a few anecdotes to prove a trend.

With the “knockout game,” we have several cases in a handful of cities, as well as five reported deaths. Victims tell similar stories: They were walking down the street when they were suddenly punched from behind. There’s no doubt that the experience is terrifying and traumatic.

But the question isn’t whether these random assaults happen. Of course they do. The question is whether this is a new dimension of urban crime, or a new name for an old phenomenon. Most of the evidence points to the latter. For starters, it’s not hard to find reports of senseless attacks on innocent bystanders.
[...]

"One last thing: Race is an obvious element in all of this. In almost every report, the assailants are described as young black men, and many of the victims have been white. It’s hard not to see the sensationalized coverage of “knockout”—and before that, “wilding”—as a reflection of our national fear of young black men. Indeed, in the more sinister corners of the Internet, you can find people who argue that these incidents are the opening shots in a “race war” by “feral black youth.”

I suspect that when you are a marginalized class/group that they tend to act out against other marginalized classes/groups.

How are Asians "marginalized"? Because somebody somewhere said they had slit eyes? And obviously liberals like to try to treat them differently than other POC.

"School District Decides Asians Aren't Students of Color"

Robby Soave (Reason) reports: One school district in Washington state has evidently decided that Asians no longer qualify as persons...

reason.com

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Yes, I'm worried about my parents

Has it occurred to you that you might be racist out of fear, and that you found a 'news story' which confirms your fear, and are now seeking validation?

 

[positivedoppler]

Has it occurred to you that you might be racist out of fear, and that you found a 'news story' which confirms your fear, and are now seeking validation?

I'm open to all possibilities, thus, the thread. Everyone is welcome to post proof against the observation that the overwhelming number attacks against elderly Asians are committed by Blacks. I merely did search on youtube for "elderly asian attacked" and noted that almost all the attackers are black.