Is the US more racist now than int he 1960's?

[blackangst1]

So Republicans can be openly racist and your excuse is they didn't mean it and it wouldn't happen anyway? Who thought after unanimously voting to re-authorize the 65 Voting Rights Act today it would get 0 votes from Republicans

Remind me one more time who is the racist party??

?

 

[blackangst1]

How do you square that with SCOTUS ruling on Roe v Wade and all the abortion bans we're seeing come up?

I honestly havent thought about that as multiracial marriage has nothing to do with abortions.

 

[pcgeek11]

I know this is your MO, take Muslims and rapist Mexicans… you dont take responsibility for the dog whistle implied, that all Muslims bad and all Mexicans crossing the border is rapist. You do the math, apply a little set theory and yes, logically it checks out. And from that narrow perspective you’re right. But, if you look to your right and you see a dude in white, look to your left and there is a dude with a swastika chanting jews will not replace you… you must realize that these people have heard the exact same message as you…. and reached vastly different conclusions… Right?

You don't KNOW anything obviously. I answered your stupid @SS questions as you wrote them. It isn't on me that you thought you were being sneaky.

Like you really got me on that one. /s

 

[pcgeek11]

If the party doesn't believe it show me where leadership denounced what Lee said as abhorrent, racist and anti-American.

BTW - There is more evidence, a Republican finally fessed up to attending an event hosted by a white nationalist and they said "so what". Once again no denouncement from leadership. I can assure you if a Democrat advocated for white hate Nancy and the rest of leadership would pounce on them in 2 seconds. Here she is waxing proud.
Idaho Lt. Guv: Actually Yes, I Did Know I Was Speaking To White Nationalists. What About It? (msn.com)

Another proud racist Republican advocating for white nationalists in office over any Democrat
GOP Guv Argues It’s Better To Have White Nationalist In Office Than Dem (talkingpointsmemo.com)

A list of other Republicans "accidently?" attending events sponsored by white nationalists.
Paul Gosur
Janice McGeachin
Chris Kobach

I'm assuming you will need more evidence Republicans are the racist party.

You made the claim that the GOP was supporting a movement to ban interracial marriage. All you linked was a dumb@ss making a stupid comment. You failed so don't throw it back at me.

Don't change the subject.

 

[HomerJS]

You made the claim that the GOP was supporting a movement to ban interracial marriage. All you linked was a dumb@ss making a stupid comment. You failed so don't throw it back at me.

Don't change the subject.

I said they were openly debating it. If they were against it leadership would have said so.

If Braun had openly opined Republicans should change their platform to pro choice I guarantee you leadership would have spoken up because on that they have a firm position.

No comment on all their white nationalist participation? Gonna say they didn't mean it? Big an accident as this?...

 

[Jaskalas]

Actually the unanimous reauthorize vote was in 2006

No, I was predicting their obvious response.
The good old lie of who the haters are today, based on who they voted for 60 years ago.

 

[pcgeek11]

I said they were openly debating it. If they were against it leadership would have said so.

If Braun had openly opined Republicans should change their platform to pro choice I guarantee you leadership would have spoken up because on that they have a firm position.

No comment on all their white nationalist participation? Gonna say they didn't mean it? Big an accident as this?...

Whom exactly is involved in the alleged "Open Debate" the GOP is having? Names other than Braun.

Why do you think they have to address every stupid comment anyone makes?
If that were true neither party would have time to do anything but deny stupid comments.

Other than the one idiot in the link you provided. Or is he having an open debate with himself?

White Nationalist.... Blah Blah Blah.
You keep trying to deflect from your original claim about the GOP Debating making interracial marriage illegal.

 

[cytg111]

You don't KNOW anything obviously. I answered your stupid @SS questions as you wrote them. It isn't on me that you thought you were being sneaky.

Like you really got me on that one. /s

I am not capable of thinking ahead like that, you attribute capabilities to me I dont have. Anyway not a trap, if you read it again through another lens you’ll find that I sympathize with your perspective without dropping my own.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I am not capable of thinking ahead like that, you attribute capabilities to me I dont have.

You're arguing with the same poster that chased his tail defending Trump's "many people are saying", used to spread lies. You know, the same guy who lied 30k times in four years, publicly, and still got more votes than the first time.

Smh, this country has some serious problems.

@cytg111 - look at that, pcgeek thinks it's funny. He's a troll just like his hero, trump.

 

[cytg111]

You're arguing with the same poster that chased his tail defending Trump's "many people are saying", used to spread lies. You know, the same guy who lied 30k times in four years, publicly, and still got more votes than the first time.

Smh, this country has some serious problems.

If you truly view it through a 100% “what everyone else gets/understands is not my problem” lens it makes sense, its not my problem if some KKK moron hears Trump say xyz and blows a load, there is morons everywhere. I get it. And I guess its one of the defining differences between R and D cultures, R values personal responsibility and stays in his own lane as where D values a bigger picture and addresses society as a whole.
I think.

 

[fskimospy]

If you truly view it through a 100% “what everyone else gets/understands is not my problem” lens it makes sense, its not my problem if some KKK moron hears Trump say xyz and blows a load, there is morons everywhere. I get it. And I guess its one of the defining differences between R and D cultures, R values personal responsibility and stays in his own lane as where D values a bigger picture and addresses society as a whole.
I think.

I think the idea that republicans value personal responsibility went out the window a long time ago.

'I don't take responsibility at all': Trump deflects blame for coronavirus testing fumble

Trump has spent weeks downplaying the virus' outbreak.

www.politico.com

 

[ch33zw1z]

I think the idea that republicans value personal responsibility went out the window a long time ago.

'I don't take responsibility at all': Trump deflects blame for coronavirus testing fumble

Trump has spent weeks downplaying the virus' outbreak.

www.politico.com

The whole idea of voting for trump was a "look what you made me do" scenario. GOP voters and personal responsibility aren't an overlap.

 

[ch33zw1z]

If you truly view it through a 100% “what everyone else gets/understands is not my problem” lens it makes sense, its not my problem if some KKK moron hears Trump say xyz and blows a load, there is morons everywhere. I get it. And I guess its one of the defining differences between R and D cultures, R values personal responsibility and stays in his own lane as where D values a bigger picture and addresses society as a whole.
I think.

I disagree. R's definitely want to influence society as a whole. They do not stay in their own lane, at all. They want to force their views on every citizen, in a much different way that D's want. D's push for inclusion for all Americans, R's want inclusion for the "right" aka "real" Americans

 

[zinfamous]

"Sub-species" may not be the proper term but I was hesitant to use "breed"!

neither are correct. The term you are looking for is race, which is fine, it's just that race isn't a biological term.

....I guess if you wanted to use biology, and compare humans to like, mice or something that we use in the lab, you could just say "line."

We work with hundreds of different species of mice, some of which can interbreed with various rates of success, but even in a single species, say Mus musculus musculus, we've established many different lines within that single species that are used for various purposes, depending on what a research group may be interested in. That would be the closest analog to our human races.

....you know we did once have several different human species on the planet at the same time, but now only Homo sapiens remain. (Homo neaderthalensis, Homo heidelbergensis, The Denisovans...which we don't know enough about to extend an accurate taxa, but we interbred with them, too), were all separate species or closely related, and we interbred with all of them, and we all share a bit of DNA with each to this day.

Don't tell the religious nutjobs though, these plainly observable, incontrovertible facts of human evolution will piss them off.

 

[HomerJS]

Whom exactly is involved in the alleged "Open Debate" the GOP is having? Names other than Braun.

Why do you think they have to address every stupid comment anyone makes?
If that were true neither party would have time to do anything but deny stupid comments.

Other than the one idiot in the link you provided. Or is he having an open debate with himself?

White Nationalist.... Blah Blah Blah.
You keep trying to deflect from your original claim about the GOP Debating making interracial marriage illegal.

I'll say it again if Braun had advocated for Republicans to go pro choice leadership would have spoken up. Why is that?

Now I see you imply Republicans open participation in white nationalist events is cool. Cool for you people I guess.

 

[zinfamous]

He's just spouting shit without considering this is his opinion. This will never come to pass because of SCOTUS ruling Loving v. Virginia, which banned states from enacting laws that restricted interracial marriages.

so Homer gives you and pcgeek the information requested about Republican legislators actively trying to re-litigate interracial marriage, and somehow that is now "just his opinion."

Never mind that it's an actual legislator making an argument on current law from his rather powerful legislative platform. All you guys need to do is call something "opinion," and suddenly all power that they have to advance any idea is removed, conveniently, as you see fit.

Very...unclever strategy you people have constructed to separate your antipathy towards "inconvenient realities" from your very unfortunate prejudices, that would all just be fine and swell if some of these people just didn't speak so loudly.

 

[zinfamous]

If the party doesn't believe it show me where leadership denounced what Lee said as abhorrent, racist and anti-American.

BTW - There is more evidence, a Republican finally fessed up to attending an event hosted by a white nationalist and they said "so what". Once again no denouncement from leadership. I can assure you if a Democrat advocated for white hate Nancy and the rest of leadership would pounce on them in 2 seconds. Here she is waxing proud.
Idaho Lt. Guv: Actually Yes, I Did Know I Was Speaking To White Nationalists. What About It? (msn.com)

Another proud racist Republican advocating for white nationalists in office over any Democrat
GOP Guv Argues It’s Better To Have White Nationalist In Office Than Dem (talkingpointsmemo.com)

A list of other Republicans "accidently?" attending events sponsored by white nationalists.
Paul Gosur
Janice McGeachin
Chris Kobach

I'm assuming you will need more evidence Republicans are the racist party.

Isn't Paul Gosar planning to attend one next week, celebrating the day of Hitler's birth?

That should be entertaining to our local GOPers.

 

[HomerJS]

Isn't Paul Gosar planning to attend one next week, celebrating the day of Hitler's birth?

That should be entertaining to our local GOPers.

This is why people like @pcgeek11 don't see a problem with Republicans associating with white nationalists (blah-blah). Their continued mantra is racism doesn't matter. Just be glad you live in America. Kinda like not caring about the war in Ukraine just because your house isn't being blown up and your kids aren't being killed.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

And why blacks? Shit...in the last 60 years we have been no harder on any race than Asians, especially Japanese.

Where the fuck do you get this stupid shit?

 

[Captante]

Where the fuck do you get this stupid shit?

NO racial minority in the US at least has been treated even REMOTELY as badly as we have treated African-Americans.

Having said that, the Japanese internment-camps we set up here during WWII were not exactly our finest hour to put it mildly and anti-Japanese racism in America was common in the mid-20th century.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

NO racial minority in the US at least has been treated even REMOTELY as badly as we have treated African-Americans.

Having said that, the Japanese internment-camps we set up here during WWII were not exactly our finest hour to put it mildly and anti-Japanese racism in America was common in the mid-20th century.

Op didn't say over the last 80 years though, so Manzanar and such doesn't factor into there. I can only speak of since the 1980s, but anti-Japanese racism has been pretty mild since then.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Where the fuck do you get this stupid shit?

His ass.

NO racial minority in the US at least has been treated even REMOTELY as badly as we have treated African-Americans.

Having said that, the Japanese internment-camps we set up here during WWII were not exactly our finest hour to put it mildly and anti-Japanese racism in America was common in the mid-20th century.

The various native tribes we wiped out of existence or tried to then decided to just force into areas we found acceptable to lock them into I think would wanna have a word with you. Or probably not because you apparently forgot about them.

That's not to say we haven't been atrocious towards black people. But we have been fucking awful to a LOT of peoples.

 

[Captante]

You made the claim that the GOP was supporting a movement to ban interracial marriage

So .... Do you honestly believe they're against banning stuff like inter-racial marriage? (Sadly I don't despite only one GOP a$$-hat saying it out loud)

I do however sincerely wish that the GOP leadership would sign it's own political death-warrant by admitting it in public though. (talk about motivating any voters who are still on the sidelines)

The various native tribes

I'll give you that one.... genocide does top slavery although not by much!

The Japanese (or any Asian's for that matter) are not even in the ballpark although its not a contest.

Ironically some of the worst crimes against humanity visited upon Asian's were committed BY the Japanese in Manchuria during WWII.

 

[blackangst1]

Where the fuck do you get this stupid shit?

Question: Which race did we set up internment camps and throw Amercans in to? Pretty sure it wasnt blacks.

I guess to be accurate I shouldve said 80 years.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Question: Which race did we set up internment camps and throw Amercans in to? Pretty sure it wasnt blacks.

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