Is the US more racist now than int he 1960's?

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HomerJS

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No one in power wants to use N-word or racial insults to describe Latinos.

So, they employ their new barely understood racial insults such as "woke."

Which was always used among the Black Community to describe someone who is politically and culturally aware of sly and disguised insults or attempts to walk back civil and voting rights.

Now, "woke" is used by many Conservatives as an insult or to describe work or education programs, beliefs that promote diversity.
Republicans have been experts in the dog whistle since Lee Atwater taught them how not to use ni**er in public but effectively say the same thing.
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You start out in 1954 by saying, “Ni**er, ni**er, ni**er.” By 1968 you can’t say “ni**er”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Ni**er, ni**er.”
 
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HomerJS

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The democratic party has always been racist and still is racist. They fought against the union in the civil war. Were for jim crow laws.

Now they are using BLM to push their communist agenda. The democratic party is now pushing for racist affirmative action policies.
If you have to revert to the Civil War in an attempt to label today's Democrats racist you need to update your CV.

I suggest you go read a book about the Southern Strategy and what happened to Republicans and Democrats after Civil and Voting rights passed in the 60s. Or don't do it and remain ignorant.
 

ivwshane

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If you have to revert to the Civil War in an attempt to label today's Democrats racist you need to update your CV.

I suggest you go read a book about the Southern Strategy and what happened to Republicans and Democrats after Civil and Voting rights passed in the 60s. Or don't do it and remain ignorant.

It makes sense why they create these alt accounts, I’d be embarrassed to post the stupid shit they post under my real username too.
 

Lanyap

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I love how the OP so uncritically accepts and repeats right wing talking points. A frequent tactic of the right “thinking class” (Ben Shapiro for example) is to use correlation as causation. In order to prove or give credence to the OP’s talking point (it’s not his btw, it’s a repeat of “race realists”), you’d have to show that as single motherhood has increased so has the use of welfare programs which they can’t show.

The OP also makes the claim that racist policies have ended, as if the consequences of those policies, once ended, also ended their impact. But then…

I especially liked the zero evidence backed claim that we’ve been harder on Asians than any other race. It’s like these idiots live a fucking vacuum, except when they need to make a point (as the OP did with this claim), where now the treatment of Asians had a lasting impact but they persevered. So which is it, racist policies have a lasting impact or they don’t?




Bingo, it came from Shapiro.
 

Lanyap

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Serious question. Speaking specifically about blacks, in 1960 black single motherhood was 18%. In 2015 it was 71%. Is it because we have become more racist? No. It is because we have incentivized bad behavior. This is where Bill Coby has it right: the problem with black America is the lack of fatherhood. Is it because we have more racist laws? No. We've gotten rid of most of those. With crime, prison rates, single motherhood, and wealth capita, blacks worse now that in the in 1960's. The thing is, American politics has done nothing but tried to intervene, and things has gotten worse.

And why blacks? Shit...in the last 60 years we have been no harder on any race than Asians, especially Japanese. Yet, who have typically been the most successful in this country? Asians.

And yet. Who have the most shoved into poverty above all else? Whites. This who conspiracy that the US hates blacks is bullshit.

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OP, what is your source for the data?
 

HomerJS

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It makes sense why they create these alt accounts, I’d be embarrassed to post the stupid shit they post under my real username too.
At least 6 have popped up in the last few weeks. It's either Republicans getting warmed up for the mid terms or the Russians
 
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cytg111

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The democratic party has always been racist and still is racist. They fought against the union in the civil war. Were for jim crow laws.

Now they are using BLM to push their communist agenda. The democratic party is now pushing for racist affirmative action policies.
11th.
God damn you've been busy... After all it takes a little time creating all those new email addresses... guess we should be flattered.
 

sportage

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Hast to be worse, more racist today simply because in the 60s civil rights laws were being enacted and proposed and worked on in congress. But with today in 2022, we have those laws now fully enacted yet racism is growing despite of our civil rights laws. So yeah, much worse today. And many more racist enablers who have been given a lot of power via the ballot and the vote.
It turns out that white racist just love voting for other white racist. Governors, local governments, school boards, locally and nationally. Did I mention Ted Cruz? Lindsey Graham? And that one republican senator bitch with the blond hair?

And too, we must bring up the transgender issue. People i.e. our humanity has always been quite diverse. We have gays and transgenders who once had to hide themselves from society, but in todays world they have come out. No longer hiding. And America is saying WTF.... where did these people come from all of a sudden? Well America, transgenders have always been here going back to the beginning of man. God made man and woman and obviously many in between yet someone scripting the bible neglected to include that little scripture stating that GOD CREATED THE TRANSGENDERED. GOD CREATED BOB, SUE, AND PAT.

Isn't it funny, kinda, that racist governors and racist republican legislators across the country are "pretending" that transgenders AND gays simply don't exist. And, trying to enact laws to support their denial. Add in there the narrative that these people, the trans and gays, are pedophiles. If they are not straight men and women then they must be pedophiles, or so the republicans want you to believe.

Yes, it has gotten much worse today. Much worse because the trans and gays are not going away, but the fight has indeed begun in republican controlled states throughout the nation. Their war has just begun.
 

ivwshane

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So is Russia a better country if Ukrainian kids over the next 20 years commit more crime because they have 40% of kids being raised by single mothers?

Yeah because the war will be over and according to right wing logic, once you remove the issue the problem fixes itself right away. Unless you are Asian, if you are Asian then your hard work and family values will help you persevere through the long lasting effects of war.
 
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pauldun170

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OP posts some bullshit
Bunch of new accounts show up with more bullshit.
Now posting in a bullshit thread
 
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Juiblex

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Yup, we as a people are still racist. We aren't going to remove our animalistic instincts in one generation.
 

HomerJS

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Yup, we as a people are still racist. We aren't going to remove our animalistic instincts in one generation.
The problem with racism is mostly a problem with Republicans. I'm talking about the political sphere. A guy living 2 blocks away from me hates black people and I never have to interact with him, don't care. Put that same guy in a position of power now we have a problem.

Any single person can be racist however if you find a racist the odds are overwhelming they are Republican.
 

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Yup, we as a people are still racist. We aren't going to remove our animalistic instincts in one generation.

As much and as sharply as we disagree on many things, this is one of those statements where we can generally agree.

I'd say the US is better, but that racism is far from solved. The continued support of Trump and other politicians who court xenophobia and sometimes-overt racism is enough evidence of that, and of course there are more than a few police officers who use excessive violence against non-whites.

The bigger issue is that there's a lot of passive-aggressive racism. It's the Republicans who disenfranchise Black voters under the false pretense of curbing fraud. It's the police officer who stops a non-white person because they were driving in the 'wrong' neighborhood. It's the store staff that follow a Black person around in unsupported fear of shoplifting; it's the Overly Concerned White Person who calls the police when a Black person does anything in public that falls outside of a narrow set of 'expected' behaviors. For that matter, it's the folks who whine about things being "woke" and "politically correct" at every turn.

We won't really solve racism until we eliminate not just the superficial, obvious acts of racism, but the strategic and instinctual ones. Obviously, politicians who try to marginalize entire groups must stop. But there's a lot more that must end. It's the "I'm not racist, but..." statements; the impulse to treat diversity (as in real diversity, not just token representation) as a threat; that low-level wariness some people feel around other ethnic groups, even if they override it with genuinely positive thoughts. Basically: we need actual acceptance and togetherness, not just tolerance.