Is the Theory of Evolution on the ropes?

[AbAbber2k]

I know.

Ya...

Anyone that lumps Evolution together with the Flat Earth Theory is a loon.

 

[Eli]

I also have a PhD in molecular biology.

pwn3d.

OP, why can't you face the fact that there are people who have a far greater understanding of these matters than you or I can even likely comprehend?

I do have a legitimate question. Did your intelligent designer also create all the other life in the universe? Or do you believe that we're the center of the universe in the sense that we are the only intelligent life?

I'm pretty sure that's more mathematically improbable than evolution is.

ps: I can't believe I read through this entire thread. OP, you have mountains of evidence thrown at you and you just keep bleating the same things over and over again. Work harder on comprehension.

 

[zinfamous]

pwn3d.

OP, why can't you face the fact that there are people who have a far greater understanding of these matters than you or I can even likely comprehend?

I do have a legitimate question. Did your intelligent designer also create all the other life in the universe? Or do you believe that we're the center of the universe in the sense that we are the only intelligent life?

I'm pretty sure that's more mathematically improbable than evolution is.

ps: I can't believe I read through this entire thread. OP, you have mountains of evidence thrown at you and you just keep bleating the same things over and over again. Work harder on comprehension.

I'm pretty sure this was investigated earlier and addressed publicly that this is not the case, but OP does sound exactly like PJW/Riprorin.

where's Fausto when we need him?

 

[darkswordsman17]

So if you don't agree with someone else's opinion then it's grounds to stop being civil? Nice.

Uh, so you force your opinion where it makes no sense and then get pissed because you think it is more true than other's "opinions", but its everyone else that's being uncivil? The fact is you insult everyone by positing your opinion as being on the same level (actually you don't, you believe you are right and that systematic observation and study is wrong) is why you get the response. You're the one that starts with the disagreement and insults. But of course you're too stupid and narcissistic to see that.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

No. The theory of evolution is not on the ropes. Have a nice day.

 

[Jaskalas]

Eyeballs aside, if intelligent design has been debunked as you claim, then why has no Evolutionary Biologist been able to explain how bacterial flagellum evolved?

The flagellum requires no less than 50 genes to function properly. Removing, or tampering with any of those genes causes complete system failure.

How the fuck could random, grandual, successive changes and modifications create that?

In theory... it would have started out as something simpler, and ONLY the tweaks and changes that worked would have survived. You cannot see the other possible mutations available as they all, supposedly, died out.

Just because they require all those pieces _today_ does not mean they had the same requirement millions of years ago before assembling into their current state.

 

[Jeff7]

So if you don't agree with someone else's opinion then it's grounds to stop being civil? Nice.

If I'm standing on a railroad track with an oncoming train, and close my eyes and put my hands over my ears and really make myself believe that the train doesn't exist, and I also convince other people to come stand on the tracks with me, the results might end up upsetting a lot of people.
Reality and physics don't really care much about our opinions. They're going to continue to do what they do.

Putting Creationism&Friends in place of scientifically sound ideas is just an attempt to ignore an immense amount of observable evidence, as well as to block and destroy progress in our understanding and describing of what's actually going on in the world around us. Yes, that's going to significantly upset some people for more than a few reasons.

 

[disappoint]

Do I see an imminent application of The People's Elbow to ID?

As long as it has evolved into a pointy elbow, I'm all for it.

Didn't you guys get the carfax? His school bus was in a wreck. There were no survivors. He's still alive. You do the math.

 

[zinfamous]

If I'm standing on a railroad track with an oncoming train, and close my eyes and put my hands over my ears and really make myself believe that the train doesn't exist, and I also convince other people to come stand on the tracks with me, the results might end up upsetting a lot of people.
Reality and physics don't really care much about our opinions. They're going to continue to do what they do.

Putting Creationism&Friends in place of scientifically sound ideas is just an attempt to ignore an immense amount of observable evidence, as well as to block and destroy progress in our understanding and describing of what's actually going on in the world around us. Yes, that's going to significantly upset some people for more than a few reasons.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

If I'm standing on a railroad track with an oncoming train, and close my eyes and put my hands over my ears and really make myself believe that the train doesn't exist, and I also convince other people to come stand on the tracks with me, the results might end up upsetting a lot of people.
Reality and physics don't really care much about our opinions. They're going to continue to do what they do.

Putting Creationism&Friends in place of scientifically sound ideas is just an attempt to ignore an immense amount of observable evidence, as well as to block and destroy progress in our understanding and describing of what's actually going on in the world around us. Yes, that's going to significantly upset some people for more than a few reasons.

Oh Snap!

Damn Jeff, that was awsome.

 

[Red Squirrel]

If I'm standing on a railroad track with an oncoming train, and close my eyes and put my hands over my ears and really make myself believe that the train doesn't exist, and I also convince other people to come stand on the tracks with me, the results might end up upsetting a lot of people.
Reality and physics don't really care much about our opinions. They're going to continue to do what they do.

Putting Creationism&Friends in place of scientifically sound ideas is just an attempt to ignore an immense amount of observable evidence, as well as to block and destroy progress in our understanding and describing of what's actually going on in the world around us. Yes, that's going to significantly upset some people for more than a few reasons.

That's a flawed analogy. There is nothing to lose by believing in God. If by chance it's all false, then it does not matter what I believed in, whatever I'm destined to go when I die will happen. However, if God does exist and the Bible is true, then there is a lot to lose by not believing.

Believing in the big bang takes as much faith as God. The fact that nothing bumped into nothing and ended up creating life and a whole universe is quite far fetched when trying to think 100% scientifically. Matter can't be created from nothing, and even if it could, there would need to be some kind of force to initiate it, but if no matter exists to begin with, then where is this force even going to come from?

Either way, I could not care less what people chose to believe in, but it just pisses me off when people bash someone because they don't believe the same thing.

 

[sandorski]

That's a flawed analogy. There is nothing to lose by believing in God. If by chance it's all false, then it does not matter what I believed in, whatever I'm destined to go when I die will happen. However, if God does exist and the Bible is true, then there is a lot to lose by not believing.
Incorrect. I doubt Zeus has any need of your Christian ways

Believing in the big bang takes as much faith as God.Stupid The fact that nothing bumped into nothing and ended up creating life and a whole universe is quite far fetched when trying to think 100% scientifically. Matter can't be created from nothing, and even if it could, there would need to be some kind of force to initiate it, but if no matter exists to begin with, then where is this force even going to come from?
Where did "God" come from?

Either way, I could not care less what people chose to believe in, but it just pisses me off when people bash someone because they don't believe the same thing.

Bolded.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

That's a flawed analogy. There is nothing to lose by believing in God. If by chance it's all false, then it does not matter what I believed in, whatever I'm destined to go when I die will happen. However, if God does exist and the Bible is true, then there is a lot to lose by not believing.

Believing in the big bang takes as much faith as God. The fact that nothing bumped into nothing and ended up creating life and a whole universe is quite far fetched when trying to think 100% scientifically. Matter can't be created from nothing, and even if it could, there would need to be some kind of force to initiate it, but if no matter exists to begin with, then where is this force even going to come from?

Either way, I could not care less what people chose to believe in, but it just pisses me off when people bash someone because they don't believe the same thing.

The Dark Ages disgrees.

Religion has held back humanity for years. Even in first world countris there are idiots trying to ruin kids minds by teaching them ID.

Without religion we'd be living on Mars by now. Or some other crazy shit.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Bolded.

A super natural force (does not necessarily have to be God, maybe we're all wrong and it's something totally different) is beyond what we can even comprehend. He/It MADE science. Science could not have created itself, that makes no sense.

I will believe in the big bang when someone manages to create a live animal out of nothing. You demand proof of God, well I'm going to play that game too and demand proof of the big bang.

 

[Red Squirrel]

The Dark Ages disgrees.

Religion has held back humanity for years. Even in first world countris there are idiots trying to ruin kids minds by teaching them ID.

Without religion we'd be living on Mars by now. Or some other crazy shit.

Lot of religions are bad, I will agree, but they're all human made as well, and not in God's will. I doubt God wanted pakies to crash airliners into the twin towers. One can believe in God without attaching themselves to a human made organization.

 

[sandorski]

Lot of religions are bad, I will agree, but they're all human made as well, and not in God's will. I doubt God wanted pakies to crash airliners into the twin towers. One can believe in God without attaching themselves to a human made organization.

God is man made.

 

[AbAbber2k]

I will believe in the big bang when someone manages to create a live animal out of nothing. You demand proof of God, well I'm going to play that game too and demand proof of the big bang.

Out of the Big Bang and God, only one has any supporting evidence.

I'd ask you to guess which one, but I'm just going to assume you'd be wrong.

 

[grrl]

More proof that even the most obvious trolls get the attention they crave.

 

[Aikouka]

There is nothing to lose by believing in God.

What about 10% of my income!?

 

[busydude]

There is nothing to lose by believing in God.

Hmm.. does life count?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Hmm.. does life count?

And intellectual integrity...and sanity...and self-respect...

Yeah. These things may not matter to Red Squirrel, but they matter to me.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Hmm.. does life count?

What's the point of even living life if you think there is nothing to look forward to at the end?

 

[Red Squirrel]

And intellectual integrity...and sanity...and self-respect...

Which will mean absolutely nothing in Hell.

 

[Broheim]

That's a flawed analogy. There is nothing to lose by believing in God. If by chance it's all false, then it does not matter what I believed in, whatever I'm destined to go when I die will happen. However, if God does exist and the Bible is true, then there is a lot to lose by not believing.

Believing in the big bang takes as much faith as God. The fact that nothing bumped into nothing and ended up creating life and a whole universe is quite far fetched when trying to think 100% scientifically. Matter can't be created from nothing, and even if it could, there would need to be some kind of force to initiate it, but if no matter exists to begin with, then where is this force even going to come from?

Either way, I could not care less what people chose to believe in, but it just pisses me off when people bash someone because they don't believe the same thing.

big bang theory doesn't state that matter was created from nothing, but that we have no way of telling what occured before the big bang.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

What's the point of even living life if you think there is nothing to look forward to at the end?

For you? I don't know. For me? Lots of things. What's wrong with enjoying the life we have now?

Which will mean absolutely nothing in Hell.

Which would not be totally irrelevant only if hell actually existed...