Is the 7950 or 670 truly faster

[WaTaGuMp]

I guess I should just throw my 7970 in the trash then.Even though I'm enjoying my card so far.You are the King of exaggeration it would seem.

Please don't throw it away, send it to me for proper recycling.

 

[bononos]

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AMD has said the new memory manager will address DX11 and DX10 games affected like farcry 3 and hitman absolution. also not every game is affected. games like bf3, crysis 3, max payne 3 have no frametime latency issues.
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What about dx9 games? Are the new drivers going to be a general fix for all games or just for dx10/11?

 

[vampirr]

Nobody really cares about DX9 games anymore, its a 10 year old...

 

[Vesku]

Didn't realize the 680 was such a stutterfest in Sleeping Dogs.

 

[amenx]

Nobody really cares about DX9 games anymore, its a 10 year old...

Witcher 2, Skyrim... not many DX11 games that can match these in graphical impact.

 

[Souv]

7950 is faster than 670
look at this forum-
http://www.overclock.net/t/1356849/buyers-remorse-gtx-670-vs-7950

(in poll 7950 wins over 670 and benchmarks are there where 7950 is faster than 670 at way lesser price tag....also in some games it even scales down 680 hands down)

conclusion-7950 the card to get,forget nvi market hype

 

[bluesquare07]

7950 is faster than 670
look at this forum-
http://www.overclock.net/t/1356849/buyers-remorse-gtx-670-vs-7950

(in poll 7950 wins over 670 and benchmarks are there where 7950 is faster than 670 at way lesser price tag....also in some games it even scales down 680 hands down)

conclusion-7950 the card to get,forget nvi market hype

We also see all your bias posts showing benchmarks only when amd wins when it is clear tomb raider is currently performing better on nv cards. the 670 is a better performing card than the 7950. at stock speeds, the 7950 is more comparable to a 660ti. a 670 at stock more to a 7970. it is only when you overclock that things change and then it is all preference. stop trying to justify your purchase by leading others to believe the 7950 is the best card on the market. its great price/performance wise, but it doesnt mean it is the best performing card. the 670 is a better card than the 7950.

Edit: also, your post with benchmarks from different random sources only when amd wins is laughable.

 

[Souv]

We also see all your bias posts showing benchmarks only when amd wins when it is clear tomb raider is currently performing better on nv cards. the 670 is a better performing card than the 7950. at stock speeds, the 7950 is more comparable to a 660ti. a 670 at stock more to a 7970. it is only when you overclock that things change and then it is all preference. stop trying to justify your purchase by leading others to believe the 7950 is the best card on the market. its great price/performance wise, but it doesnt mean it is the best performing card. the 670 is a better card than the 7950.

Edit: also, your post with benchmarks from different random sources only when amd wins is laughable.

again you are wrong about 670 or forcefully not pretending to be...
7950 still performs at par with 670 even with NV TR performance driver 314.21
and also in recent bioshock infinite release 7950 still better than 670

http://translate.google.ca/translat...ion-/-fps-/-tps/tomb-raider-test-gpu-v-2.html

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Biosh...rafikkarte-Benchmark-1061764/galerie/2055449/

 

[notty22]

nv mind

 

[Souv]

Now you are using edited graph pictures? That cut off driver version and patch updates?
Guru3D was right about you.

Is Hilbert and you good friends for some reason whatever that's?

 

[bluesquare07]

again you are wrong about 670 or forcefully not pretending to be...
7950 still performs at par with 670 even with NV TR performance driver 314.21
and also in recent bioshock infinite release 7950 still better than 670

http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgamegpu.ru%2Faction-%2F-fps-%2F-tps%2Ftomb-raider-test-gpu-v-2.html

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Biosh...rafikkarte-Benchmark-1061764/galerie/2055449/

Actually i am not wrong or 'forcefully' not pretending to be. Read this review, with the latest drivers.
http://hardocp.com/article/2013/03/20/tomb_raider_video_card_performance_iq_review/5#.UVGlqlflrzo

Game by game the 670 is better than the 7950. Sorry. It's ok, we all can see that you hate nvidia.
7950 better than 670 in bioshock? Can we see the benchmark with updated drivers, please.

 

[Eureka]

That's pretty funny considering there's very little nv hype on these forums... The 7950 is a favorite card here. But it's disingenuous to say that the 7950 is faster than the 670. I don't think anyone thinks the 7950, stock, is a faster chip. I've had both and the 670 is definitely faster stock for stock. The 7950 needs to be boosted in order to compete with the 670 stock. The 670 is a nice card, it's extremely fast and runs with very low power. It just happened that the 7950 was a bit cheaper in the end for similar performance and a better cooler.

 

[ICDP]

again you are wrong about 670 or forcefully not pretending to be...
7950 still performs at par with 670 even with NV TR performance driver 314.21
and also in recent bioshock infinite release 7950 still better than 670

http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgamegpu.ru%2Faction-%2F-fps-%2F-tps%2Ftomb-raider-test-gpu-v-2.html

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Biosh...rafikkarte-Benchmark-1061764/galerie/2055449/

The HD 7950 is a great card and for me is the price/perf king this round. But to say it is the equal of the GTX670 out of the box is outright wrong.

You need to boost the HD 7950 to around 1G to match the 670. At 1075MHz a 7950 will match a GTX680/7970 for much less money and this is why it is the card most people recommend.

 

[pauldun170]

All I'm getting out of this is I should skip the 7950 and the 670 and maybe get a 7970 to replace my GTX570.

or maybe not because all this stutter talk....

 

[Souv]

Actually i am not wrong or 'forcefully' not pretending to be. Read this review, with the latest drivers.
http://hardocp.com/article/2013/03/20/tomb_raider_video_card_performance_iq_review/5#.UVGlqlflrzo

Game by game the 670 is better than the 7950. Sorry. It's ok, we all can see that you hate nvidia.
7950 better than 670 in bioshock? Can we see the benchmark with updated drivers, please.

talk and talk...even with 7950 performing better in above benches you still defending 670 ...even with low perf and way more price you still pay for nvi- go on like this,be blind fan and make nvi richer

<Snip.> Useless material that serves only to fuel a flame war was removed. Poster was infracted for posting these images. -Admin DrPizza

 

[NIGELG]

nv mind

Exactly.

 

[Souv]

Exactly.

What's "Exactly"?!!

 

[NIGELG]

What's "Exactly"?!!

nv mind....NVIDIA mind ...LOL.

 

[bluesquare07]

That's pretty funny considering there's very little nv hype on these forums... The 7950 is a favorite card here. But it's disingenuous to say that the 7950 is faster than the 670. I don't think anyone thinks the 7950, stock, is a faster chip. I've had both and the 670 is definitely faster stock for stock. The 7950 needs to be boosted in order to compete with the 670 stock. The 670 is a nice card, it's extremely fast and runs with very low power. It just happened that the 7950 was a bit cheaper in the end for similar performance and a better cooler.

Exactly! Price/Performance wise the 7950 is a great card, no doubt about it. But to say that the 7950 is faster than the 670 is just misleading to the consumer, especially when OP is asking what card is faster, not what is better from a price/performance standpoint. Nobody would be recommending the 7950 over the 670 if prices were equal. If you can afford the additional cost for the 670, there is no doubt that you should get the 670 (without considering 7970). You should not base your purchase on highly overclocked numbers.

There is also a lot to consider other than raw frames. NVIDIA is better on the driver side of things, to me, in my personal experience there is no doubt about that. The additional features NVIDIA provides is also welcome to any consumer.

All I'm getting out of this is I should skip the 7950 and the 670 and maybe get a 7970 to replace my GTX570.

or maybe not because all this stutter talk....

Honestly, if you have a 570 i wouldn't even recommend upgrading at this point. It's already almost April, you'll be a lot happier in the long run waiting out for the new series from each camp. Though, it is true that you will experience smoother gameplay on NV cards in general. AMD is improving this with recent driver updates, but its obviously something to consider looking forward.

 

[bluesquare07]

talk and talk...even with 7950 performing better in above benches you still defending 670 ...even with low perf and way more price you still pay for nvi- go on like this,be blind fan and make nvi richer

SUCK HARD NVI,since 2003 3d mark skew cheating and notorious acts are in your da** blood sucker..

I think everyone has the same thoughts running through their minds after you post something like this. It's okay man, one day you'll have a NV card too.

 

[MeldarthX]

Exactly! Price/Performance wise the 7950 is a great card, no doubt about it. But to say that the 7950 is faster than the 670 is just misleading to the consumer, especially when OP is asking what card is faster, not what is better from a price/performance standpoint. Nobody would be recommending the 7950 over the 670 if prices were equal. If you can afford the additional cost for the 670, there is no doubt that you should get the 670 (without considering 7970). You should not base your purchase on highly overclocked numbers.

There is also a lot to consider other than raw frames. NVIDIA is better on the driver side of things, to me, in my personal experience there is no doubt about that. The additional features NVIDIA provides is also welcome to any consumer.




Honestly, if you have a 570 i wouldn't even recommend upgrading at this point. It's already almost April, you'll be a lot happier in the long run waiting out for the new series from each camp. Though, it is true that you will experience smoother gameplay on NV cards in general. AMD is improving this with recent driver updates, but its obviously something to consider looking forward.

Honestly its not misleading - everyone has always stated - 7950 is faster OC and there is so much room to OC that card it matches its big brother GE edition and 680 for so much less money.

Its also less than 670 - by 30-40 pounds for boost edition for normal 7950 I can get it nearly 100 pounds less.

Only feature *which btw isn't in any AAA game coming in the right future* is physx; again there is only 1-2 games that its even worth a small look at......

So - Nvidia isn't smoother or better than AMD when it comes to drivers; just like AMD really isn't smoother or better - each perform well in games - some better than others.....

I can say though; AMD never released a driver that blows up a card unlike Nvidia..... *See how generalizing isn't good from either side*

I'd rather give people advice to get best bang for their dollar/pound than argue which side is better.

Nvidia has some great card - but bang for buck/quid; AMD is far better; you can't match 7950 value....

Honest there isn't a reason to pick 670 over 7950 unless you are die hard nvidia fan.....or the games you will be playing are better on the 670... but with the way driver improvements have gone; really isn't any games that do that.......there are still a couple though

 

[bluesquare07]

Honestly its not misleading - everyone has always stated - 7950 is faster OC and there is so much room to OC that card it matches its big brother GE edition and 680 for so much less money.

Its also less than 670 - by 30-40 pounds for boost edition for normal 7950 I can get it nearly 100 pounds less.

Only feature *which btw isn't in any AAA game coming in the right future* is physx; again there is only 1-2 games that its even worth a small look at......

So - Nvidia isn't smoother or better than AMD when it comes to drivers; just like AMD really isn't smoother or better - each perform well in games - some better than others.....

I can say though; AMD never released a driver that blows up a card unlike Nvidia..... *See how generalizing isn't good from either side*

I'd rather give people advice to get best bang for their dollar/pound than argue which side is better.

Nvidia has some great card - but bang for buck/quid; AMD is far better; you can't match 7950 value....

Honest there isn't a reason to pick 670 over 7950 unless you are die hard nvidia fan.....or the games you will be playing are better on the 670... but with the way driver improvements have gone; really isn't any games that do that.......there are still a couple though

so much wrong with this but i wont bother considering there are so many like you and the other fanboy on this board

 

[Souv]

 

[Eureka]

Honestly its not misleading - everyone has always stated - 7950 is faster OC and there is so much room to OC that card it matches its big brother GE edition and 680 for so much less money.

Its also less than 670 - by 30-40 pounds for boost edition for normal 7950 I can get it nearly 100 pounds less.

Only feature *which btw isn't in any AAA game coming in the right future* is physx; again there is only 1-2 games that its even worth a small look at......

So - Nvidia isn't smoother or better than AMD when it comes to drivers; just like AMD really isn't smoother or better - each perform well in games - some better than others.....

I can say though; AMD never released a driver that blows up a card unlike Nvidia..... *See how generalizing isn't good from either side*

I'd rather give people advice to get best bang for their dollar/pound than argue which side is better.

Nvidia has some great card - but bang for buck/quid; AMD is far better; you can't match 7950 value....

Honest there isn't a reason to pick 670 over 7950 unless you are die hard nvidia fan.....or the games you will be playing are better on the 670... but with the way driver improvements have gone; really isn't any games that do that.......there are still a couple though

Honestly, the bang for buck argument is kind of old given that the price difference between the two is usually around $30 for similar designs. Constantly rattling price/perf does no favors for anyone, all it does is reinforce the concept that AMD is the 'cheap' option. The 7950 is a fast card with great OC potential, and that's why it's interesting.

670, at the same performance level, runs cooler, with less power, on a smaller PCB, and comes with a bunch of nifty features. Nvidia has better SLI support, PhysX, lightboost, and slightly better 3D support.

Just because you don't have a reason doesn't mean there isn't a reason for other people to pick it.

Ah, are we just posting benchmarks without context now?

 

[zaydq]

Both cards are fantastic. The price/perf argument is still valid in my opinion. A 7950 can usually be had for $60 less than a 670 more often than not. I can also attest to the fact that stock for stock, the 7950 is in the right spot for its price, and the 670 is generally faster. Obviously once overclocking is a factor, the 7950 shines and really holds it's weight in gold (not insinuating that the 670 isn't a decent overclocker too).

So, the gist of all this is, if you find any worth in nVidia's added perks like lightboost and physX, and you're not interested in playing the silicon littery, the 670 is your perfect bet. If you could care less about added offerings, and prefer to tamper and tweak, not too mention some amazing game bundles that are currently occurring, buy the 7950, take your girlfriend out for dinner with the saved cash and play some great bundled titles.