Who the hell are those guys? Seriously. Nobody would've given a damn about thrash if it weren't for Metallica.
Who the hell are those guys? Seriously. Nobody would've given a damn about thrash if it weren't for Metallica.
You're going to post about how Metallica started the Thrash metal era, but you don't even know who Sodom, Destruction or Kreator are? Shows how much you know.
Metallica hardly had anything to do with the thrash era. Most thrash metal bands would cite Sodom, Destruction or Kreator as their influences, not Metallica. Those 3 bands have had a way way more impact on thrash metal than Metallica.
People started to pay attention to thrash when Metallica put out Kill 'Em All, give me a break with those other bands. And if you don't believe Kill 'Em All had an effect on thrash-metal, that just shows how much you know.
You don't even know who the other bands are. You can't go around saying how important Kill 'Em All was on thrash metal when you don't even know who the most well known thrash metal bands are. Stop spewing crap. You don't even know what you're talking about.
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The Band's Sound:
Metallica pioneered the genre known as thrash metal. Hammett and Hetfield's blazing guitars along with Ulrich's warp speed drumming launched a whole new style of music. Their sound has evolved over the years and has gotten more complex. They've explored their softer side with some ballads and even an album with an orchestra, but they still can rock as hard as anyone out there.
Here's another source via Amazon Editorial:
Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
While not as timeless as Ride the Lightning or Master Puppets, Metallica's debut album--originally released in 1983--is still a fine piece of thrash metal, and as good a marker as any for the debut of the genre. Fusing the rapid-fire attack of bands like Motorhead with a guitar style reminiscent of such British heavy metal bands as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, Metallica essentially created a new kind of metal. Several of the songs from this 1983 album have since become classics, including "Seek & Destroy", "The Four Horsemen", and "Jump in the Fire". The songwriting isn't as sophisticated as on Metallica's later releases; still, it's a great listen, and essential for any heavy metal fan. --Genevieve Williams Text
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The Band's Sound:
Metallica pioneered the genre known as thrash metal. Hammett and Hetfield's blazing guitars along with Ulrich's warp speed drumming launched a whole new style of music. Their sound has evolved over the years and has gotten more complex. They've explored their softer side with some ballads and even an album with an orchestra, but they still can rock as hard as anyone out there.
Here's another source via Amazon Editorial:
Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
While not as timeless as Ride the Lightning or Master Puppets, Metallica's debut album--originally released in 1983--is still a fine piece of thrash metal, and as good a marker as any for the debut of the genre. Fusing the rapid-fire attack of bands like Motorhead with a guitar style reminiscent of such British heavy metal bands as Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, Metallica essentially created a new kind of metal. Several of the songs from this 1983 album have since become classics, including "Seek & Destroy", "The Four Horsemen", and "Jump in the Fire". The songwriting isn't as sophisticated as on Metallica's later releases; still, it's a great listen, and essential for any heavy metal fan. --Genevieve Williams Text
Thank you, come again.
Besides Metallica and Pantera, I really don't like thrash. I still know Metallica's history regarding the evolution of thrash metal though. You are seriously taking this way too seriously. Go eat some milk and cookies, and read a bed time story, okay?
Here's another one for you then:
Metallica must be considered one of the most well-known metal bands ever, with their work in the 80's in particular receiving accolades as amongst the finest metal works ever recorded. Formed in 1981 by the duo of James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich, their youthful energy quickly gained them an incredible underground following, with their debut Kill 'Em All being one of the most anticipated underground releases of the era. And it did not disappoint -- arguably one of the first true thrash albums, it jumpstarted a thrash scene that would last for years to come
Source
So basically 3 sites citing the same thing isn't good enough for you? Okay then, I think this argument has run it's course. Good night to you
Ah what the hell, one more site before I go to bed!
Essentially the brainchild of Danish émigré Lars Ulrich (born December 26, 1965), a self-confessed New Wave Of British Heavy Metal fan. Ulrich gave up a potential career as a tennis pro in order to beat the living daylights out of the drums, METALLICA have unarguably been the leading lights of the Thrash Metal scene since their inception in the early 80's. Although considered to be a San Francisco based group, the darlings of the Bay Area scene, METALLICA was actually formed by Ulrich in Los Angeles. However, whilst Ulrich gets much of the credit for the rise of METALLICA, the band's roots essentially began the day one Ron McGovney and the AEROSMITH obsessed James Hetfield (born August 3, 1963) had first met at Los Angeles East Middle School in 1977.
Source
Essentially the brainchild of Danish émigré Lars Ulrich (born December 26, 1965), a self-confessed New Wave Of British Heavy Metal fan. Ulrich gave up a potential career as a tennis pro in order to beat the living daylights out of the drums, METALLICA have unarguably been the leading lights of the Thrash Metal scene since their inception in the early 80's. Although considered to be a San Francisco based group, the darlings of the Bay Area scene, METALLICA was actually formed by Ulrich in Los Angeles. However, whilst Ulrich gets much of the credit for the rise of METALLICA, the band's roots essentially began the day one Ron McGovney and the AEROSMITH obsessed James Hetfield (born August 3, 1963) had first met at Los Angeles East Middle School in 1977.
Source
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
So basically 3 sites citing the same thing isn't good enough for you? Okay then, I think this argument has run it's course. Good night to you
Your sources are hardly credible.
But my suggestion to you is listen to more thrash metal.
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Ah what the hell, one more site before I go to bed!
Essentially the brainchild of Danish émigré Lars Ulrich (born December 26, 1965), a self-confessed New Wave Of British Heavy Metal fan. Ulrich gave up a potential career as a tennis pro in order to beat the living daylights out of the drums, METALLICA have unarguably been the leading lights of the Thrash Metal scene since their inception in the early 80's. Although considered to be a San Francisco based group, the darlings of the Bay Area scene, METALLICA was actually formed by Ulrich in Los Angeles. However, whilst Ulrich gets much of the credit for the rise of METALLICA, the band's roots essentially began the day one Ron McGovney and the AEROSMITH obsessed James Hetfield (born August 3, 1963) had first met at Los Angeles East Middle School in 1977.
Source
lol ok bud. Go ahead and base your opinions off of what you read on the internet.
Lucifer > PaulNEPats in this thread.
You can argue this to the end of time who started wat genre. In the beginning there WAS no "thrash metal", in fact bands made up names for the "type" of metal they played. This type of metal has it's roots in the european hardcore punk sound.
Wiki link
Metallica was not first on the scene and they did not "invent" "thrash metal". Metallica was the band that came ahead out of the mix and became popular in America. Sure that's great, but in the birthplace of metal (northeast europe), metallica is not heralded as the inventor of anything. They were one of the firsts to take this type of sound to America and successfully market it to the masses. They are by no means the greatest metal band of all time. In fact they are not even close.
Bottom line is the most important bands to this type of metal are Destruction, Kreator and Sodom. Period.
You can argue this to the end of time who started wat genre. In the beginning there WAS no "thrash metal", in fact bands made up names for the "type" of metal they played. This type of metal has it's roots in the european hardcore punk sound.
Wiki link
Metallica was not first on the scene and they did not "invent" "thrash metal". Metallica was the band that came ahead out of the mix and became popular in America. Sure that's great, but in the birthplace of metal (northeast europe), metallica is not heralded as the inventor of anything. They were one of the firsts to take this type of sound to America and successfully market it to the masses. They are by no means the greatest metal band of all time. In fact they are not even close.
Bottom line is the most important bands to this type of metal are Destruction, Kreator and Sodom. Period.
Sampson that wikipedia link shows Metal Church began the scene, with metallica coming in second. Metal church, however, released a demo, whereas Metallica released a full fludged album. Kreator didn't even release an album until 85.
i just want to add that I think it was ELI who mentioned dream theater after someone made a long post about kirk hammet being taught by one of the greatest guitarists ever.. yea i agree, but John petrucci of dream theater is in the class of the guy who tought kirk hammett, not kirk hammett's class.. and while I dont like James labrie's singing too much, those who say "master of puppets is the greatest ever" might enjoy dream theater's almost note for note and emotion for emotion full cd cover on their day off of Master of Puppetts..... Metallica definately fueled a fire (shizzle, i listened to them constantly growing up) but bands like dream theater, opeth, pain of salvation, etc, are so much greater of talent, etc. that there is no logical argument between them...
and yes, if you listen to DT's version of master of puppets, its hard to tell that its not kirk...
oh and some jack off earlier stated that And Justice for all was crap or something to that effect...
and yes, if you listen to DT's version of master of puppets, its hard to tell that its not kirk...
oh and some jack off earlier stated that And Justice for all was crap or something to that effect...
No, they aren't. Not at all.
Hammett is not as good as he thinks he is.
Given that metal is frequently so technical(compared to saaay, punk, lol) then I'd presume talent/technical skill would be an important factor in deciding the best metal band ever (if such a thing existed).
On that basis, as has doubtless been said, Dream Theatre, Symphony X, hell even Arch Enemy, utterly penetrate Metallica from a technical standpoint.
You could argue sales, but then I'd argue Sales? WTF? this is metal, since when do sales mean anything. On a sales basis, pop is better than metal
As a final note,
ZAKK WYLDE FTW!
zakk wylde v kirk hammett
24oz rump steak v lentil
Hammett is not as good as he thinks he is.
Given that metal is frequently so technical(compared to saaay, punk, lol) then I'd presume talent/technical skill would be an important factor in deciding the best metal band ever (if such a thing existed).
On that basis, as has doubtless been said, Dream Theatre, Symphony X, hell even Arch Enemy, utterly penetrate Metallica from a technical standpoint.
You could argue sales, but then I'd argue Sales? WTF? this is metal, since when do sales mean anything. On a sales basis, pop is better than metal
As a final note,
ZAKK WYLDE FTW!
zakk wylde v kirk hammett
24oz rump steak v lentil
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Gah that's true..well at least for me. Prior to the Bl;ack Album (one of my all time favorite albums) I really wasn't into Metallica or Heavy Metal because a lot of the Heavy Metal I was exposed too was Hair Band Hevy Metal but after I got the Black Album I figured there was more to Metallica than I oringinally thought and decided to look into their older stuff.
Also if it weren't for Metallica I probably would never have gotten into Faith No More or RATM. Because Metallica was so instrumental in getting me into the genre of Music I consider them the be the Greatest Metal Band, at least from my perspective.
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