Is it illegal to grow marijuana for personal use? If so, why?

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JoeyP

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Because alcohol is legal and marijuana is not.

There is no point in asking the question.
At this point, alcohol and tobacco are legal... marijuana is not.

This country is already moving towards legalization. Once the current generation of 70yo+ people die off and can't vote anymore, it will become legalized.

Just hold your pot smokin horses and it will happen eventually.
Agreed. Illegality should have a logical reason. It is illegal to run a red light because you endanger perpendicular traffic and can kill someone. It is illegal to kidnap because you are depriving someone of their liberty. Pot is illegal because ... ?
 

unokitty

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When I say illegal I mean in terms of the constitution. It kind of boggles my mind that growing a plant could be illegal. It's like outlawing people from being able to grow basil or thyme. What logical reason would marijuana be illegal in any form or fashion? Health reasons?


Its illegal because the President hasn't sent a letter to the appropriate Federal Agencies telling them that enforcing this particular law is a low priority and no budget funds will be approved for it.

Take away the Federal Money and all of the Federal Agencies will avoid enforcement. Of course, you still have State and Local Agencies to deal with... But since the Feds supply the majority of the money, the other agencies will also loose interest after time...

Uno
 

Arkitech

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Agreed. Illegality should have a logical reason. It is illegal to run a red light because you endanger perpendicular traffic and can kill someone. It is illegal to kidnap because you are depriving someone of their liberty. Pot is illegal because ... ?

This..
 

MontyAC

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This back yard looks full.

090814pot_farm_outdoors470.jpg
 

Gibsons

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Because alcohol is legal and marijuana is not.

There is no point in asking the question.
At this point, alcohol and tobacco are legal... marijuana is not.

This country is already moving towards legalization. Once the current generation of 70yo+ people die off and can't vote anymore, it will become legalized.

Just hold your pot smokin horses and it will happen eventually.

Home brewing is legal, but I think distilling is illegal in most states. I think the main reason is that the laws are antiquated and there's not a big interest from the public in doing it anyway.
 

edro

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The problem with self enforcing laws is that everyone has a different standard.
A meth head doesn't understand why it's illegal to smoke meth.
It is illegal because they are meth heads and end up putting the public at risk from theft, vehicle accidents and face eating.

The same logic is used for marijuana. (although most agree that marijuana is not harmful to the general public)
 

Craig234

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As I understand it, it's thanks to Justices like Scalia, whose argument is boggling.

It's under the interstate commerce clause - why, you ask?

On the theory that if you grow your own pot, you can harm the (nevermind it's illegal) interstate commerce by not buying pot grown out of state and imported.

These right-wing judges just make crap up to fit their politics and rape the constitution.

This is the same group who stuck down a state law to match campaign financing by a wealthy candidate by giving the same amount of tax funds to his opponent on the grounds that it was a violation of free speech because it would discourage wealthy candidates from using their money for advantage when their opponent gets a match.
 

Capt.OBViOUS

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Just my thoughts
Let the marijuana laws be like what we have now.I mean its not that difficult to get it,so why make it legal?I dont want to smoke that shit for all my lifetime,but only when i want to get wasted.
ive grown it just for fun,got some seeds and put them in cotton cloth soaked in water and placed them in near good sunlight,and theyve grown upto 6-7 cms in weeks.but i couldnt wait to smoke them,so the next day,i rolled it in to a joint(didnt dry them..lol)it was not good as the ones that we buy from streets,but the satifaction...

It wont make you an addict like alcohol does,im no longer using it.
hmm i will recommend weed to anyone as long as they dont abuse it:D.
 

God Mode

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National (private 1%er) economic interests. Enforcement (continued tax payer funding) interests.
 

alkemyst

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When I say illegal I mean in terms of the constitution. It kind of boggles my mind that growing a plant could be illegal. It's like outlawing people from being able to grow basil or thyme. What logical reason would marijuana be illegal in any form or fashion? Health reasons?

Why not opium and the like as well?
 

SunnyD

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Because when you smoke it, you can exhibit uncontrollable behavior, putting the general public at risk.
The same reason heroine, cocaine, meth, huffing paint, any prescription drug, etc. are illegal.

I agree with marijuana legalization. I am just voicing the opinion of government and a large percentage of the public.

Holy shit... I need to camp out and see when the DEA raids my local Home Depot and CVS!!!

:rolleyes:
 

Gooberlx2

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In Denver its not

Well, to expand on that, in Denver possession up to an ounce is "decriminalized" for adults 21+. However, the stricter state laws still allow enforcement, so the 2005 and 2007 measures were more symbolic than anything.

Gawd I hope Amendment 64 passes. At least it's a step in getting the state out of the way and taking on the feds.
 

preslove

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It's illegal because when Prohibition was being repealed, only Mexicans and leftist radicals smoked MJ.

Racism is at the heart of the drug war.
 

amish

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Home brewing is legal, but I think distilling is illegal in most states. I think the main reason is that the laws are antiquated and there's not a big interest from the public in doing it anyway.

technically, you must have a license for distilling alcohol in the US. that is why we don't see many microdistilleries or have a large home distillation network like home brewing.
 

Gibsons

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technically, you must have a license for distilling alcohol in the US. that is why we don't see many microdistilleries or have a large home distillation network like home brewing.

That's a federal law then? Makes sense. I remember seeing a webpage where they were selling stills (maybe from Australia) and they had to label it as plumbing supplies or somesuch to ship to the U.S.
 

edro

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...heyve grown upto 6-7 cms in weeks.but i couldnt wait to smoke them,so the next day,i rolled it in to a joint(didnt dry them..lol)it was not good as the ones that we buy from streets,but the satifaction...
wat?!

You smoked wet seedlings?

lol
 

Ns1

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As I understand it, it's thanks to Justices like Scalia, whose argument is boggling.

It's under the interstate commerce clause - why, you ask?

On the theory that if you grow your own pot, you can harm the (nevermind it's illegal) interstate commerce by not buying pot grown out of state and imported.

These right-wing judges just make crap up to fit their politics and rape the constitution.

This is the same group who stuck down a state law to match campaign financing by a wealthy candidate by giving the same amount of tax funds to his opponent on the grounds that it was a violation of free speech because it would discourage wealthy candidates from using their money for advantage when their opponent gets a match.

this is the correct answer.


Just my thoughts
ive grown it just for fun,got some seeds and put them in cotton cloth soaked in water and placed them in near good sunlight,and theyve grown upto 6-7 cms in weeks.but i couldnt wait to smoke them,so the next day,i rolled it in to a joint(didnt dry them..lol)it was not good as the ones that we buy from streets,but the satifaction...

There is so much wrong here. So, so much wrong.
 

Red Squirrel

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can't have you curing your own cancer and diseases. it takes away from big pharma's bottom numbers

Sadly this is probably one of the main reasons it's illegal. That and the fact that unlike cigarettes, they can't control/tax it.

I believe here in Canada it's legal to grow but only for medical purposes. Like if you have 50 huge plants in your basement with tons of lighting and stuff, you're busted. If you have a single small plant and a doctor's note, you're probably good to go.
 

Gibsons

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Sadly this is probably one of the main reasons it's illegal. That and the fact that unlike cigarettes, they can't control/tax it.

I believe here in Canada it's legal to grow but only for medical purposes. Like if you have 50 huge plants in your basement with tons of lighting and stuff, you're busted. If you have a single small plant and a doctor's note, you're probably good to go.

Why couldn't it be taxed? Tobacco can be grown at home afaik.
 

amish

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That's a federal law then? Makes sense. I remember seeing a webpage where they were selling stills (maybe from Australia) and they had to label it as plumbing supplies or somesuch to ship to the U.S.

yup, fed laws. some states try to lessen the law, but since fed law trumps state law, we're all pretty much screwed. Interesting about the aussie plumbing stills. You can get all the parts here, except for a full blown still, but you need to be able to put it all together to make a still.

We made alcohol in HS in our chemistry class even though it was technically illegal. it was a cool learning experience with creating the mash and then using burners, various glassware, and a condenser to get the final product.

I've always wanted to try my hand at it again.
 

waitman

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Sadly this is probably one of the main reasons it's illegal. That and the fact that unlike cigarettes, they can't control/tax it.

I believe here in Canada it's legal to grow but only for medical purposes. Like if you have 50 huge plants in your basement with tons of lighting and stuff, you're busted. If you have a single small plant and a doctor's note, you're probably good to go.

It is legal in the USA to grow your own tobacco for personal use, without paying taxes on it. I had an uncle that grew his own for years, it was some shit like like tar when he had it cured. Marijuana should be the same for personal use. If you are selling it, the cops would bust you, just like they bust you now with all kinds of douchebaggery!
 

Red Squirrel

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It is legal in the USA to grow your own tobacco for personal use, without paying taxes on it. I had an uncle that grew his own for years, it was some shit like like tar when he had it cured. Marijuana should be the same for personal use. If you are selling it, the cops would bust you, just like they bust you now with all kinds of douchebaggery!

Hmm never even thought of tobacco, yeah lot of people do make their own cigs. Those cigs are probably better too as they wont have as much chemicals in them.
 

Ns1

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Hmm never even thought of tobacco, yeah lot of people do make their own cigs. Those cigs are probably better too as they wont have as much chemicals in them.

Pretty sure the guys that make their own cigs are buying bags of processed tobacco at their local store, NOT making their own in the garage...