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grrl

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: grrl
Originally posted by: feralkid


Cool, another reason to visit New Orleans. btw, is that where the Higgins boats were made?

Yes, they were. Higgins was a smart guy. In 1939 I think he bought all of the Philippine's mahogany harvest because he knew a war was coming.

He was a brilliant designer but was seriously lacking in business skills.

You're right. I don't remember the full story but I think pretty soon after the war everything went to pot.
 

kermalou

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sammy, i know you are but what am i. in the real world there are debates. what next you gonna come and beat me up...please dont i am so scared. i am just saying that it is my point of view that the nazi flag is wrong in every sense, but its your freedom to show it and mine to not, it all the choices that we make.

please lets not get too far off topic here, but if you look at the truth behind the affair, it is the Palestinians who are nickel and dimeing their own people, specifically Yasser Arafat (who has embezzeled shitloads of money).

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: kermalou
sammy, i know you are but what am i. in the real world there are debates. what next you gonna come and beat me up...please dont i am so scared. i am just saying that it is my point of view that the nazi flag is wrong in every sense, but its your freedom to show it and mine to not, it all the choices that we make.

please lets not get too far off topic here, but if you look at the truth behind the affair, it is the Palestinians who are nickel and dimeing their own people, specifically Yasser Arafat (who has embezzeled shitloads of money).

Right, it's Palestinian tanks running over their own people and shooting their children. :disgust:
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Skyclad1uhm1

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There is a big difference between how a museum displays a lot of WW II memorabilia, and having a single nazi flag in your room.

Think of the difference between an exposition on Al Qaida and its deeds and motives, and you having a large banner in your room reading "Long live Al Qaida! We'll come back to NYC 9/11 2003!"

Guess which of those two the people in NYC would like less.
 

kermalou

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: kermalou
sammy, i know you are but what am i. in the real world there are debates. what next you gonna come and beat me up...please dont i am so scared. i am just saying that it is my point of view that the nazi flag is wrong in every sense, but its your freedom to show it and mine to not, it all the choices that we make.

please lets not get too far off topic here, but if you look at the truth behind the affair, it is the Palestinians who are nickel and dimeing their own people, specifically Yasser Arafat (who has embezzeled shitloads of money).

Right, it's Palestinian tanks running over their own people and shooting their children. :disgust:
rolleye.gif


now, since when is security and money involved or did i read your post all wrong???? if you are trying to live in your house and some asshole comes and tried to shoot at you you will shoot back, or you will try to stop them from shooting in the first place, you will take preventative steps.
 

kermalou

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
There is a big difference between how a museum displays a lot of WW II memorabilia, and having a single nazi flag in your room.

Think of the difference between an exposition on Al Qaida and its deeds and motives, and you having a large banner in your room reading "Long live Al Qaida! We'll come back to NYC 9/11 2003!"

Guess which of those two the people in NYC would like less.

thank you skyclad for giving a real world example.....
 

sammy, i know you are but what am i. in the real world there are debates. what next you gonna come and beat me up...please dont i am so scared. i am just saying that it is my point of view that the nazi flag is wrong in every sense, but its your freedom to show it and mine to not, it all the choices that we make.

please lets not get too far off topic here, but if you look at the truth behind the affair, it is the Palestinians who are nickel and dimeing their own people, specifically Yasser Arafat (who has embezzeled shitloads of money).
Getting defensive are we? Who brought anything up about beating someone? That was you who implied that I might digress into violence and threaten you over the internet. But in making that false statement, you yourself digressed into the use of "violence"
Violence is the last resort of the ignorant, it seems you have stooped to that.

Let's see, who started the thread with...
i believe that sammyson is a moron that hasn't been edumacated enough.
Well, it's been proven that you have no emperical basis by which to say a historic icon, such as a Nazi flag, to have no value.
I agree, numerous other people agree. So your opinion just turned into trying to flame me.
Instead, you spilled the napalm all over yourself and got burnt.

please lets not get too far off topic here, but if you look at the truth behind the affair, it is the Palestinians who are nickel and dimeing their own people, specifically Yasser Arafat (who has embezzeled shitloads of money).
Not sure if this is directed at me. But, in a thread of "is a nazi flag a collectors item", talking about israel vs palestine is quite off topic.

Anyway, I'm sure Arafat just held his gun to the heads of all the suicide bombers, and palestinian soldiers and such, and forced them to do what they did.
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Israel is innocent, I'm sure.
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Feldenak

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Originally posted by: kermalou
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: kermalou
sammy, i know you are but what am i. in the real world there are debates. what next you gonna come and beat me up...please dont i am so scared. i am just saying that it is my point of view that the nazi flag is wrong in every sense, but its your freedom to show it and mine to not, it all the choices that we make.

please lets not get too far off topic here, but if you look at the truth behind the affair, it is the Palestinians who are nickel and dimeing their own people, specifically Yasser Arafat (who has embezzeled shitloads of money).

Right, it's Palestinian tanks running over their own people and shooting their children. :disgust:
rolleye.gif


now, since when is security and money involved or did i read your post all wrong???? if you are trying to live in your house and some asshole comes and tried to shoot at you you will shoot back, or you will try to stop them from shooting in the first place, you will take preventative steps.

I apologize, I guess you've never heard the phrase "nickel & dime", I suppose I should have put quotes around it. I was referring to the way the Germans killed "undesirables" and the way the Israelis are killing Palestinians.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
There is a big difference between how a museum displays a lot of WW II memorabilia, and having a single nazi flag in your room.

Think of the difference between an exposition on Al Qaida and its deeds and motives, and you having a large banner in your room reading "Long live Al Qaida! We'll come back to NYC 9/11 2003!"

Guess which of those two the people in NYC would like less.

How so? Is it displayed along with White Supremicist(sp?) articles? I see nothing wrong with displaying a Nazi flag in a room in your home, it's all about context. I would definately display a Nazi flag (properly protected in a case after authentication) in my computer room...then again that's also my study and all my books (computer, school, historical, etc...) are there. As soon as I get proper mountings I will be displaying a K-98 rifle, a P-38, a ring made from the canopy glass of a ME-109, and a belt buckle with the swastika & eagle logo.
 

ElFenix

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i'd really like an FW-190. but thats just me. even a 3/4 scale model of an FW-190.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: SammySon
Well, it's been proven that you have no imperical basis by which to say a historic icon, such as a Nazi flag, to have no value.
I agree, numerous other people agree. So your opinion just turned into trying to flame me.
Instead, you spilled the napalm all over yourself and got burnt.

its empirical ;)
 

grrl

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
i'd really like an FW-190. but thats just me. even a 3/4 scale model of an FW-190.

You can see one at the Smithsonian.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: kermalou
hijacked from another thread in which Fritzo has a nazi flag in his room and the stupid post from sammyson saying its a definate collector's item. i believe that sammyson is a moron that hasn't been edumacated enough.

but, is the flag a collector's item?

Hmmmm people who hang Nazi flags have issues that need to be dealt with therapy or a good butt kicking.

 

Chaotic42

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Yes, it's a collectors item, if it's authentic. It would make a good part of a serious World War II collection. It would not, however, be the place to start. That way, it wouldn't be alone.

Having a Nazi flag by itself, even if it is the first item in a collection, is not a good idea. I'd personally at least have an American, British, French, German, Italian, Soviet, Japenese, and Chinese National set of flags in a collection.

 

sciencetoy

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The question of the financial value of the thing depends on the provenance. That means how much documentation/information do you have about where it came from and where it's been since then.
 

Nitemare

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Is the blood covered guillotine in which Lous IV killed his wife.....

you betcha...

Will it look funny in the living room.....

you betcha...
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
If its from WW2, then yes... but I wouldnt display it by itself....

otherwise no...

Exactly. If it were a genuine WWII-era Nazi flag, it would be a "collector's item" but only as part of a WWII or Holocaust exhibit, not intended to glorify Nazism.