IRS Scandal explodes. "no evidence that would support a criminal prosecution."

[nickqt]

How you can crucify private enterprise, when it's only sin is TRYING to influence Government, flabbergasts me.

The obvious villain, is Government.

-John

Private wealth making laws: good.

Government of the people bad: Because Communism™.

Yeah, you're a monarchist. We got it.

 

[Zorkorist]

Nick,

If I haven't told you how fucked up you are, let this be the time.

There is no "we" in your "we got it." There is only you.

I know that, and most people here know that, so while you continue to attack, know, that "we got it."

-John

 

[Jhhnn]

Private wealth making laws: good.

Government of the people bad: Because Communism™.

Yeah, you're a monarchist. We got it.

Ignore Zork. He only posts when he's drunk. Honest.

 

[nickqt]

Nick,

If I haven't told you how fucked up you are, let this be the time.

There is no "we" in your "we got it." There is only you.

I know that, and most people here know that, so while you continue to attack, know, that "we got it."

-John

Continue not reading 3/4 of the posts mocking your nonsense that you believe encompasses great knowledge and epiphany.

Everyone™ agrees with you. Except that they don't.

Keep on keepin' on.

Also: Communism™

 

[ivwshane]

Nick,

If I haven't told you how fucked up you are, let this be the time.

There is no "we" in your "we got it." There is only you.

I know that, and most people here know that, so while you continue to attack, know, that "we got it."

-John

I agree with nick, so yeah, we got it

 

[rudeguy]

I agree with nick, so yeah, we got it

Well I don't and I like pancakes more than waffles.

Back on point: "nnot a smidgen of corruption". Obama and his administration are the most crooked in history. Lying, cheating, covering up? Just another day at the office.

And before the "all politicians do it" crowd shows up, Nixon would have been impeached over much less blatant things.

 

[ivwshane]

Well I don't and I like pancakes more than waffles.

Back on point: "nnot a smidgen of corruption". Obama and his administration are the most crooked in history. Lying, cheating, covering up? Just another day at the office.

And before the "all politicians do it" crowd shows up, Nixon would have been impeached over much less blatant things.

Hmm....republicans control both the house and senate, if Obama is so corrupt why not impeach? Oh that's right, you are a fucking idiot!

 

[brycejones]

Well I don't and I like pancakes more than waffles.

Back on point: "nnot a smidgen of corruption". Obama and his administration are the most crooked in history. Lying, cheating, covering up? Just another day at the office.

And before the "all politicians do it" crowd shows up, Nixon would have been impeached over much less blatant things.

Most crooked in history? Throw some examples out there. Also what are your top 5 most crooked administrations in history?

 

[ivwshane]

Most crooked in history? Throw some examples out there. Also what are your top 5 most crooked administrations in history?

I've got my top one and it's not a bush

 

[rudeguy]

Most crooked in history? Throw some examples out there. Also what are your top 5 most crooked administrations in history?

I'll have to put some thought into the top 5 list. I've never sat down to think about it...

 

[brycejones]

Private wealth making laws: good.

Government of the people bad: Because Communism™.

Yeah, you're a monarchist. We got it.

I don't think Zorkist is a monarchist. Its more like he has read to much Ayn Rand or is on the anarchist end of the spectrum. He seems to view most regulation as some evil form of communism.

I do think he is quite insane but he isn't a monarchist.

 

[fskimospy]

Well I don't and I like pancakes more than waffles.

Back on point: "nnot a smidgen of corruption". Obama and his administration are the most crooked in history. Lying, cheating, covering up? Just another day at the office.

And before the "all politicians do it" crowd shows up, Nixon would have been impeached over much less blatant things.

This shows a pretty shocking lack of knowledge of US history.

Obama's tenure is notable for its lack of scandal, actually. It's generally regarded as a particularly clean administration outside of the ultra right.

 

[Jaskalas]

This shows a pretty shocking lack of knowledge of US history.

Obama's tenure is notable for its lack of scandal, actually. It's generally regarded as a particularly clean administration outside of the ultra right.

Targeting journalists and political opponents is "particularly clean" in your book. What, does Obama have to be Putin before you knock him?

 

[Matt1970]

This shows a pretty shocking lack of knowledge of US history.

Obama's tenure is notable for its lack of scandal, actually. It's generally regarded as a particularly clean administration outside of the ultra right.

That's a good one.

 

[ivwshane]

That's a good one.

Put up or shut up

 

[Jhhnn]

Targeting journalists and political opponents is "particularly clean" in your book. What, does Obama have to be Putin before you knock him?

He did say other than among the birthers & believers of the far right. Scandals under this admin aren't much more than Repub grandstanding & mock piety.

Nobody said perfect. OTOH, we haven't been led to war under false pretenses, either. Nor has there been anything to compare to Watergate or the Iran-Contra affair.

But, uhh, do go on.

 

[rudeguy]

He did say other than among the birthers & believers of the far right. Scandals under this admin aren't much more than Repub grandstanding & mock piety.

Nobody said perfect. OTOH, we haven't been led to war under false pretenses, either. Nor has there been anything to compare to Watergate or the Iran-Contra affair.

But, uhh, do go on.

Ok..how was Watergate worse than this?

 

[Matt1970]

Ok..how was Watergate worse than this?

Because in the Watergate era it was a disgrace to spy on the opposing party. Now it seems perfectly acceptable to spy on the entire world.

 

[ivwshane]

Because in the Watergate era it was a disgrace to spy on the opposing party. Now it seems perfectly acceptable to spy on the entire world.

Spying approved by both republicans and dems btw. Hardly scandalous unless you are nutter with serious mental issues.

 

[mrjminer]

Spying approved by both republicans and dems btw. Hardly scandalous unless you are nutter with serious mental issues.

Tell that to Nixon

 

[Jhhnn]

Ok..how was Watergate worse than this?

I'll take that as deliberately obtuse. Watergate came directly from the oval office. That has not been shown to have been the case here. Watergate also involved blatantly illegal acts like burglary that have no bureaucratic cover whatsoever.

If Repubs wanted to establish such a link rather than simply feed conspiracy theorists, they'd have forced Lerner's testimony under a grant of immunity long ago.

The IRS seems perfectly capable of fucking this up all on their own.

 

[berzerker60]

Ok..how was Watergate worse than this?

Because of the coverup. Watergate itself was no big deal, but Nixon's paranoia wouldn't let him just accept responsibility until it was too late.

But let's see:

Iran-Contra
Watergate
Teapot Dome
Iraq War
The entire Grant administration
The entire Harding administration
In fact most administrations during roughly 1865-1910
The Valerie Plame affair

 

[brycejones]

Tell that to Nixon

Nixon's actions were directed at his perceived domestic political enemies.

 

[cabri]

So the Obama IRS wasn’t just persecuting right-leaning nonprofits — it was out to prosecute them, too. And with the help of the Obama Department of Justice and FBI.

Link

Just a few extra motivated low level employees??

A “DOJ Recap” on an Oct. 8, 2010 meeting tells how officials from the three agencies discussed “several possible theories to bring criminal charges under FEC law” against groups “posing” as tax-exempt nonprofits.
As part of the project, the IRS handed the FBI 21 computer disks with 1.23 million pages of confidential IRS returns from 113,000 nonprofit 501(c)(4) groups — nearly every 501(c)(4). This, though federal law generally bans the IRS from sharing such data.

...

Some of the article is opinion others contains facts.

But is does show that it went deeper than originally thought and knowing broke the law with people that had to have known better due to their positions in the administration.

This is no longer just operational department heads that are involved

 

[Bowfinger]

Link

Just a few extra motivated low level employees??



Some of the article is opinion others contains facts.

But is does show that it went deeper than originally thought and knowing broke the law with people that had to have known better due to their positions in the administration.

This is no longer just operational department heads that are involved

This was first reported back in February. It's in the news again because Judicial Watch, a right wing propaganda organization, needs to keep its IRS lawsuit in the public eye. As I said in February:

Wow! The DOJ initiated contact with the IRS to discuss possibly prosecuting organizations filing fraudulent applications. It's a world gone mad.

Remember that the fundamental story here is a bunch of openly political organizations flouted the law by claiming to be 501(c)(4) "social welfare" charities. They should be investigated for fraud. Most were right wing political groups, however, dedicated to electing GOP candidates. The right therefore jumped to defend this fraud by launching a full scale offensive against the IRS.