Iran, six world powers clinch breakthrough nuclear deal

[Abwx]

The truth is that Iran has no intentions of using this technology for peaceful purposes! My sources are the people I speak to when I am traveling to various middle east countries.

I suppose thoses countries are either israel or perhaps
some retarded arab kingdoms a la Quatar....

 

[michal1980]

I suppose thoses countries are either israel or perhaps
some retarded arab kingdoms a la Quatar....

I get it. Iran is a trustworthy Mideast country. All the others are bad. /s

 

[AViking]

The truth is that Iran has no intentions of using this technology for peaceful purposes! My sources are the people I speak to when I am traveling to various middle east countries.
The truth you cannot believe what you read and for every article you can find backing up your opinion I can find one backing up mine....stalemate!

You really need to get out and talk with the Iranians in Iran.....or even go to Saudi Arabia......ahhhh...I forgot you can learn just as much by reading about...lolol

This is called anecdotal evidence.

I definitely agree that people should travel and talk to the actual people though. If you did you'd realize that Iranians are not the boogeymen we make them out to be. Neither were the Soviets. This is politics.

 

[EagleKeeper]

This is called anecdotal evidence.

I definitely agree that people should travel and talk to the actual people though. If you did you'd realize that Iranians are not the boogeymen we make them out to be. Neither were the Soviets. This is politics.

Tell that to Eastern Europe - enslaved for 30-50 years

 

[michal1980]

This is called anecdotal evidence.

I definitely agree that people should travel and talk to the actual people though. If you did you'd realize that Iranians are not the boogeymen we make them out to be. Neither were the Soviets. This is politics.

tell that to the millions that were murdered in the USSR

 

[JEDIYoda]

This is called anecdotal evidence.

I definitely agree that people should travel and talk to the actual people though. If you did you'd realize that Iranians are not the boogeymen we make them out to be. Neither were the Soviets. This is politics.

I have traveled the middle east as a private citizen and for the US Government for many years.

It quite obvious from your meaningless diatribe that you have never been to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt.......

In some ways your correct the Iranian people they wish to eat drink and live also.....

Yet the hatred for Israel runs so deep they would welcome the chance to nuke Israel....collateral damage not withstanding!!

 

[IGBT]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...restarts-nuclear-reactor-warns-iaea-pyongyang

The Albright Plan..similar to the Obama / Iran Agreement.

North Korea announced in April it would revive its aged research reactor at the Yongbyon nuclear complex – which experts say is capable of producing plutonium for bombs – but said it was seeking a deterrent capacity...

 

[EagleKeeper]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...restarts-nuclear-reactor-warns-iaea-pyongyang

The Albright Plan..similar to the Obama / Iran Agreement.

North Korea announced in April it would revive its aged research reactor at the Yongbyon nuclear complex – which experts say is capable of producing plutonium for bombs – but said it was seeking a deterrent capacity...

Iran is getting the attention and publicity. NK can not stand it ; it has to be in the spotlight.

 

[kage69]

Abwx - "...or perhaps some retarded arab kingdoms a la Quatar.... "


Ok, I'll bite. What do you consider "retarded" about "Quatar"? You do realize they are an important ally and quite different than The House of Sa'ud, right?

Calling Qatar "retarded" when they have been such a distinguished model of Arab transition to modernity is, IMO, rather retarded itself. Using a 'u' in it's name is just confirmation to me that you are honking off about that which you know little.

You just have a hard on for Al Jeezera or something? Hey if you want to bash a muslim country, Pakistan should suit you fine. Go nuts.
If I were you I just wouldn't pick one where it's possible to buy alcohol, go to church, or get a degree at Carnegie Mellon (not necessarily in that order). You may find it counterproductive to the narrative your kind tenaciously clings to.

 

[Abwx]

Abwx - "...or perhaps some retarded arab kingdoms a la Quatar.... "


Ok, I'll bite. What do you consider "retarded" about "Quatar"? You do realize they are an important ally and quite different than The House of Sa'ud, right?

Calling Qatar "retarded" when they have been such a distinguished model of Arab transition to modernity is, IMO, rather retarded itself. Using a 'u' in it's name is just confirmation to me that you are honking off about that which you know little.

You just have a hard on for Al Jeezera or something? Hey if you want to bash a muslim country, Pakistan should suit you fine. Go nuts.
If I were you I just wouldn't pick one where it's possible to buy alcohol, go to church, or get a degree at Carnegie Mellon (not necessarily in that order). You may find it counterproductive to the narrative your kind tenaciously clings to.

They have money and that s all , contrary to Iran they have no culture of excellence and are nothing else than a bunch of thieves who happened to hold control over areas that are full of natural ressources, theses monarchies are just kleptocracies, that is, the contrary of a meritocracy ,
in short the most bloodthirsty is the one who deserve to rule, besides Iran has a real respect for women , far from thoses retarded mysoginistic dark ages regimes who are currently showing their thirst for blood by funding
all the psychopaths who can be extracted from the muslim world to
wage a war of revenge against Syria, their aim is to crush the muslim
countries wich did get rid of monarchies , dont forget that Syria,
Lybia, Irak, Iran, Egypt were all kingdoms not so long ago.

Btw , about Iran :

Iran's university population swelled from 100,000 in 1979 to 2 million in 2006. 70% of its science and engineering students are women

Dream about it to happen in the gulf petro klepto monarchies, they are backwards countries who are jealous of Iran s excellence and thus are trying to destroy what they cant equate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

 

[Agent11]

They have money and that s all , contrary to Iran they have no culture of excellence and are nothing else than a bunch of thieves who happened to hold control over areas that are full of natural ressources, theses monarchies are just kleptocracies, that is, the contrary of a meritocracy ,
in short the most bloodthirsty is the one who deserve to rule, besides Iran has a real respect for women , far from thoses retarded mysoginistic dark ages regimes who are currently showing their thirst for blood by funding
all the psychopaths who can be extracted from the muslim world to
wage a war of revenge against Syria, their aim is to crush the muslim
countries wich did get rid of monarchies , dont forget that Syria,
Lybia, Irak, Iran, Egypt were all kingdoms not so long ago.

Btw , about Iran :

Dream about it to happen in the gulf petro klepto monarchies, they are backwards countries who are jealous of Iran s excellence and thus are trying to destroy what they cant equate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

Qatar actually uses it's oil money to greatly increase the standard of living for it's people. . . It's starting to sound like you are a butt hurt Iranian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

 

[Jhhnn]

The truth is that Iran has no intentions of using this technology for peaceful purposes! My sources are the people I speak to when I am traveling to various middle east countries.
The truth you cannot believe what you read and for every article you can find backing up your opinion I can find one backing up mine....stalemate!

You really need to get out and talk with the Iranians in Iran.....or even go to Saudi Arabia......ahhhh...I forgot you can learn just as much by reading about...lolol

Truthiness. It's true because you believe it's true, even though you have no actual evidence that it is true. If you can say that other people believe the same thing, then that just makes it more true, right?

 

[kage69]

They have money and that s all , contrary to Iran they have no culture of excellence and are nothing else than a bunch of thieves who happened to hold control over areas that are full of natural ressources, theses monarchies are just kleptocracies, that is, the contrary of a meritocracy ,
in short the most bloodthirsty is the one who deserve to rule, besides Iran has a real respect for women , far from thoses retarded mysoginistic dark ages regimes who are currently showing their thirst for blood by funding
all the psychopaths who can be extracted from the muslim world to
wage a war of revenge against Syria, their aim is to crush the muslim
countries wich did get rid of monarchies , dont forget that Syria,
Lybia, Irak, Iran, Egypt were all kingdoms not so long ago.

Btw , about Iran :

Dream about it to happen in the gulf petro klepto monarchies, they are backwards countries who are jealous of Iran s excellence and thus are trying to destroy what they cant equate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

You are definitely a butthurt Iranian. I ask you to back up your unfounded bullshit and you reply with...more unfounded bullshit.

Hey basij, how do you say 'chickenshit' in Farsi?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Truthiness. It's true because you believe it's true, even though you have no actual evidence that it is true. If you can say that other people believe the same thing, then that just makes it more true, right?

Is that the best you can do??
What makes it true is that I have heard it from the very Iranian people who I have ate lunch with in Tehran, Shabriz and even Tabriz....
I don`t need a freaking newspaper to tell me what I can hear with my own ears.


For some like you the truth is fleeting.....I promise you that if Iran ever gets a nuclear weapon they will use it.....
With that said you can bet there will be a preemptive strike......

 

[Abwx]

Qatar actually uses it's oil money to greatly increase the standard of living for it's people. . . It's starting to sound like you are a butt hurt Iranian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

What about women standard of living.?..

BTW , i m not Iranian at all...

You are definitely a butthurt Iranian. I ask you to back up your unfounded bullshit and you reply with...more unfounded bullshit.

Hey basij, how do you say 'chickenshit' in Farsi?

Ad hominem attack as an argument..??.
You really know well about bs , indeed, as a producer...

As for Quatar and the rest of the mysoginistic monarchies
even in 100 years they wont be anything else than stupid
and bloody characters who are not interested in science,
arts and all things that aknowledge a real civilization , mark
my words , thoses monarchies will never give rise to great
universities and intellectual excellence , all they are interested
in is easy money and of course women as sexual items...

 

[Abwx]

For some like you the truth is fleeting.....I promise you that if Iran ever gets a nuclear weapon they will use it.....
With that said you can bet there will be a preemptive strike......

So it will be used first by the zionists under the pretense
that Iran may use it first..???..

You seriously need some therapy against schizophrenia
and mental disorder...

 

[EagleKeeper]

So it will be used first by the zionists under the pretense
that Iran may use it first..???..

You seriously need some therapy against schizophrenia
and mental disorder...

Iran is ready attacking Israel via proxy. All a bomb does is provide more leverage and encouragement for more.

 

[Abwx]

Iran is ready attacking Israel via proxy. All a bomb does is provide more leverage and encouragement for more.

Complete reversal of the reality , the only ones ready to attack
are the zionists and what encourage them to do so is the fact
that they have nuclear weapons , otherwise they wouldnt even
dare to threaten Iran as they often do but nevermind Iran knows
that they will be the leading country in the ME , zionists are only
poor fools if they think that they ll be anything else than a negligible
quantity whose destiny is to be thrown in the trash bin of History.

 

[Agent11]

What about women standard of living.?..

BTW , i m not Iranian at all...




Ad hominem attack as an argument..??.
You really know well about bs , indeed, as a producer...

As for Quatar and the rest of the mysoginistic monarchies
even in 100 years they wont be anything else than stupid
and bloody characters who are not interested in science,
arts and all things that aknowledge a real civilization , mark
my words , thoses monarchies will never give rise to great
universities and intellectual excellence , all they are interested
in is easy money and of course women as sexual items...

Any Islamic country is going to have issues with women's rights, some more than others.

 

[Abwx]

Any Islamic country is going to have issues with women's rights, some more than others.

Nice deflection....

But what about Qatar and other gulf monarchies , does the women there have more rights than in other muslims countries , let s take Syria as exemple
since thoses retarded kings are currently clearly trying to destroy
this non religious regime...

Set apart the special case of Egypt wich is perhaps even more
retarded than the gulf kleptocracies in this matter there s no
republican regime that is as backward as the monarchies despite
being far less wealthy, actualy some republics have gone backward
due to pressure from islamists who are financed and supported
by thoses despicable regimes , Saudi and Qatar.

 

[Jhhnn]

Is that the best you can do??
What makes it true is that I have heard it from the very Iranian people who I have ate lunch with in Tehran, Shabriz and even Tabriz....
I don`t need a freaking newspaper to tell me what I can hear with my own ears.


For some like you the truth is fleeting.....I promise you that if Iran ever gets a nuclear weapon they will use it.....
With that said you can bet there will be a preemptive strike......

Heh. There is, of course, no way to determine the veracity of your fantastic claims other than by examining the logic of your pronouncements.

Obviously, you can't make promises for the Iranians, but you do anyway. That tells us what we need to know about everything else you have to say on the subject.

Your attributions wrt Iran fly in the face of the facts. Only an irrational leadership would attack a nuclear armed state with nuclear weapons. The way that Iranian leadership has played their cards in this ongoing fracas shows us that they are *not* irrational. They've found a way to continue development of their nuclear power infrastructure despite the threats, sanctions & posturing of the US & Israel. And they've done it under the watchful eyes of the IAEA monitoring their enrichment facilities & the products of enrichment.

Your attempts at fear mongering are quite clumsy, showing an irrational & near hysterical edge that discredits you entirely. If you can't do better than that, you'd do well to STFU, because you discredit your cause in the process.

 

[Abwx]

Heh. There is, of course, no way to determine the veracity of your fantastic claims other than by examining the logic of your pronouncements.

Obviously, you can't make promises for the Iranians, but you do anyway.

Next time he ll tell you that he got there with a regular
Tel Aviv-Theran flight....

He went nowhere but he think that we re stupid enough to believe
what is obvious fabrications.

As a US citizen he could effectively be granted a visa to access
Iran but once the airport police would check his passport full
of israeli stamps he would be thrown back right away in the plane
wich brought him there , iranians are not irrational , right , and seeing
all the terrorist operations performed in Iran to murder scientists
it makes no doubt that they would not take the risk to let a zionist,
and we know he s a die hard one, quietly doing a suspicious journey
in their country.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Iran is ready attacking Israel via proxy. All a bomb does is provide more leverage and encouragement for more.

Complete reversal of the reality , the only ones ready to attack
are the zionists and what encourage them to do so is the fact
that they have nuclear weapons , otherwise they wouldnt even
dare to threaten Iran as they often do but nevermind Iran knows
that they will be the leading country in the ME , zionists are only
poor fools if they think that they ll be anything else than a negligible
quantity whose destiny is to be thrown in the trash bin of History.

So you are stating that Iran does not support those who attack Israel?

Your Zionists may be ready to attack; but the Iranians are already doing the attacking via their proxies.

 

[Incorruptible]

The deal could definitely have been better but talking to Iran is a step in the right direction. Hopefully they are able to keep in talks with Iran.

 

[Jhhnn]

The deal could definitely have been better but talking to Iran is a step in the right direction. Hopefully they are able to keep in talks with Iran.

Congratulations. Your grip on reality isn't gone entirely.

The Iranians will continue to process their own LEU, build & operate their reactors under IAEA supervision simply because nobody is going to stop them. The consequences of attempting to do so are incalculable.

Therefore, the framework of any deal will recognize that, and will include stronger safeguards wrt diversion of nuclear materials, particularly reactor generated materials, for other purposes. It'll also drop all the ravings & accusations about past "nuclear weapons related activities" at the same time.

Our only valid concerns are that weapons grade materials are not produced, and that the IAEA can be in a position to determine that they are not. If the Iranians will agree to that, we'll have a deal. If we think we can get more, we're delusional, and there will be no deal.