iPhone 5S/5C thread

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I highly doubt the phone lasted 8 days on standby.

I think it could on wifi. Pure standby? I'm not too surprised by that stat. I played quite a bit of temple run and left my iPhone at home the whole day, and by the time I was ready to go to bed it still had 75% battery life. I imagine if I didn't touch it AT ALL, it would've been well above 85%.

However, I do think that the stat wasn't reset because a full charge wasn't performed.

 

[Eug]

So does it say you last charged it 8 days ago, or 6 hours ago? If 8 days ago, you've used it for 6 hours in that time? Not sure if I'm getting what those two numbers mean.

Standby time is time since last charge, with unit powered on. Usage time is active usage (foreground or background).

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1805

Usage: Amount of time iPhone has been awake and in use since the last full charge. The phone is awake when you’re on a call, using email, listening to music, browsing the web, or sending and receiving text messages, or during certain background tasks such as auto-checking email.

Standby: Amount of time iPhone has been powered on since its last full charge, including the time the phone has been asleep.

Note that Apple lists the standby time for the 5S and 5C as 250 hours, which is 10.4 days. For my iPhone 4, it lists the standby time as 300 hours, or 12.5 days. For iPhone 4S, it's only 200 hours, or 8.3 days.

 

[Red Storm]

Okay so if it's not fully charged it won't reset that stat.

Wish the iPhone had more battery information like Android, as well as the data usage panel. Both quite useful.

 

[Eug]

There is a data usage panel, but it's not on that page.

See here:

http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/25/ios-7-how-to-monitor-track-your-cellular-data-usage/

 

[Red Storm]

Oh nice, that new with iOS 7? Been looking for that to use on my wife's phone.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Correct I picked up my iPhone today after charge and it was reset to 0. While more information would be useful like in Android, I found that I've never really needed to look at that kind of information on my iPhone. Why? Because nothing's really sucking my battery dry and I'm not always on a witch hunt to figure out what app is the culprit.

With iOS 7 opening up more background tasks that could start to be an issue, but so far, no. Even on Android, when things are going smoothly, I rarely look there.

 

[Eug]

^^^ There may be a battery drain issue in iOS 7 now. We haven't encountered it, but I have most of the extra background tasks turned off on the iPhone 4.

However, so far the few reports mentioning this are only for the iPhone 5/5c/5s. I suspect it is a background app doing it.

My 5S hasn't arrived yet (sitting in Korea) so I can't say for the 5s myself.

 

[saratoga172]

So does it say you last charged it 8 days ago, or 6 hours ago? If 8 days ago, you've used it for 6 hours in that time? Not sure if I'm getting what those two numbers mean.

The 6 hour number is the amount I've used the phone since it was charged. That includes screen on time, email syncing in the background, radio's being used to pull data, weather syncing etc.

The 8 day number is the time since I took it off the charger. In that time it didn't touch the charger once.

 

[saratoga172]

I highly doubt the phone lasted 8 days on standby.

You can doubt all you want but there is the screenshot and I've got the phone in hand. I wanted to see what type of battery life I could get. I frequently travel and it's nice to know if I can make a two-day trip with or without having to worry about my charger. As you can see I didn't use the phone a ton (only 6 hours over 8 days) but it still gives me a good estimate. Part of that usage was a 2 hour call in which I had the phone on speakerphone with the screen turned off. I had a couple 10-15 minute calls mixed in there then email.

I'll be curious if it was an anomaly and how the drain does going forwards. I suspect as I add a few apps here and there it'll become an every other or third day charge.

 

[saratoga172]

I think it could on wifi. Pure standby? I'm not too surprised by that stat. I played quite a bit of temple run and left my iPhone at home the whole day, and by the time I was ready to go to bed it still had 75% battery life. I imagine if I didn't touch it AT ALL, it would've been well above 85%.

However, I do think that the stat wasn't reset because a full charge wasn't performed.

Oddly enough I was only connected to wifi for maybe an hour over the entire 8 days. I'm still debating if wifi is a bigger drain than turning it off and using only cell towers on the new iPhones. Maybe I should test that next.

I charged the phone up yesterday and pulled it off the charger for rundown two...unless I charge since I'm traveling tomorrow. But think I'll see how it does at the airport, plane and in a different city.

On the new charge I'm at 96% with 21 hours of standby and 40 minutes of usage.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Oddly enough I was only connected to wifi for maybe an hour over the entire 8 days. I'm still debating if wifi is a bigger drain than turning it off and using only cell towers on the new iPhones. Maybe I should test that next.

I charged the phone up yesterday and pulled it off the charger for rundown two...unless I charge since I'm traveling tomorrow. But think I'll see how it does at the airport, plane and in a different city.

On the new charge I'm at 96% with 21 hours of standby and 40 minutes of usage.

Dang. 21 hours, 4% drain. My Android would be at like 60% or something... lol

 

[openwheel]

4% drain with 21 hour standby and 40 minutes of actual usage?

Uh.....sorry, that's not possible.

I am still baffled with the 8 days standby (without wifi) claim. We need a graph (like Android) to see the drainage.

 

[Qbah]

Oddly enough I was only connected to wifi for maybe an hour over the entire 8 days. I'm still debating if wifi is a bigger drain than turning it off and using only cell towers on the new iPhones. Maybe I should test that next.

I charged the phone up yesterday and pulled it off the charger for rundown two...unless I charge since I'm traveling tomorrow. But think I'll see how it does at the airport, plane and in a different city.

On the new charge I'm at 96% with 21 hours of standby and 40 minutes of usage.

How in the world...

 

[Red Storm]

Depends on the usage. Talk time takes so little battery and for all we know that could be it.

I wish I could try to replicate that test, but there is no way I could only use my phone for 6 hours over 8 days. Might as well go dumb phone lol.

 

[Eug]

openwheel, give it up already. You've been proven wrong so many times already it's not funny.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

openwheel, give it up already. You've been proven wrong so many times already it's not funny.

In his defense, 40 minutes of usage is pretty high. If it's just 21 hours of standby, I'd believe it, but 40 minutes with 4% drain?

But at the same time you don't need a drain graph to figure out what's going on. I think he's trying too hard at that. While drain graphs are nice, one reason why I've never needed one on iOS is because I'm not spending every other day trying to figure out why my battery died so quickly.

 

[Eug]

Depends on the usage. Talk time takes so little battery and for all we know that could be it.

I wish I could try to replicate that test, but there is no way I could only use my phone for 6 hours over 8 days. Might as well go dumb phone lol.

Yeah, when I had my iPhone and no data plan, I could go several days without charging. Then I got a 6 GB data plan, and that all changed.

 

[ponyo]

I'm loving the battery life of my 5S but I'm not getting the ridiculous battery life like saratoga. I'm currently at 86% with 53 minutes of use and 5 hours on standby. I think it's outstanding but I'm coming from GSM Galaxy Nexus.

 

[openwheel]

Eug: openwheel, give it up already. You've been proven wrong so many times already it's not funny.

seriously, what is your problem?
I know your agenda is everything pro-Apple and anti-others, but don't forget you are on a public forum and there are other opinions other than your own agenda.

 

[Qbah]

Well... if you:
- disable data completely
- turn off LTE (or even 3G - is that still possible?)
- not use the phone at all to check things on occasion
- answer a 40 minute call over 2G with the screen off

Then maybe... just maybe... 4% in 21 hours sounds possible... you'd need perfect signal too and probably not move too much so that it's always the same tower?

But I must agree with the above person - what's the point of getting a smartphone then? At least that's how I see it.

I'm loosing 0.7-1.0% per hour idle on my HTC One on 3G with WiFi off (and Google Now disabled) when doing absolutely nothing and the phone just sitting in my pocket and getting push notifications.

 

[Eug]

seriously, what is your problem?
I know your agenda is everything pro-Apple and anti-others, but don't forget you are on a public forum and there are other opinions other than your own agenda.

Sorry, but you really need to take your own advice.

Basically, you have accused the guy of lying, twice, even after I posted all the standby time information from the actual manufacturers. Furthermore, even after I posted that then you still didn't believe it, probably because you didn't even bother to read it. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted your claims, since the data for your own phone and for my phone from the same manufacturer directly contradicted what you claimed. And I only bothered to post that because you accused me of spreading bull, because you had a different experience with TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONES.

Seriously, I'm starting to wonder why I'm even wasting my time with you, but somebody has to counter all the misinformation you keep coming up with.

 

[openwheel]

Sorry, but you really need to take your own advice.

Basically, you have accused the guy of lying, twice, even after I posted all the standby time information from the actual manufacturers. Furthermore, even after I posted that then you still didn't believe it, probably because you didn't even bother to read it. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted your claims, since the data for your own phone and for my phone from the same manufacturer directly contradicted what you claimed. And I only bothered to post that because you accused me of spreading bull, because you had a different experience with TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONES.

Seriously, I'm starting to wonder why I'm even wasting my time with you, but somebody has to counter all the misinformation you keep coming up with.

You need to realize that other people have different opinions. Regardless of "what you have already posted", you do not represent the absolute truth and other people can have their difference of opinion. I am very easy to talk to with good sense of humor, until I run into people like you who are outrageously bias. Please don't let your panty get all twisted by different opinions, life is too short.

 

[Eug]

You need to realize that other people have different opinions. Regardless of "what you have already posted", you do not represent the absolute truth and other people can have their difference of opinion. I am very easy to talk to with great sense of humor, until I run into people like you who are outrageously bias.

This is not a matter of opinion. This is you totally ignoring the facts and not accepting anyone else's opinion (or facts) because they contradict your own bias.

I posted that my iPhone 4 gets better standby battery life on average than my RAZR HD, and I own both phones.

You called bull because you claimed iPhones can't get that kind of battery life. Then I find out you own neither phone, and you are basing your claims on the iPhone 5 and RAZR M, which have a completely different set of specs than my two phones.

Then you claim it's still not possible, because the RAZR HD has a much bigger battery so it must last longer. I then point out that Motorola itself states that the RAZR M lasts much longer in standby than the RAZR HD, despite the RAZR M having a much smaller battery.

Now you're moving on to claim someone else is lying, even after he posted his screengrab, because again you can't understand why your misinformation isn't supported.

That's the gist of your posts in the last few pages. It's not about having a differing opinion. It's about your refusal to accept anything as truth if it doesn't fit your own pre-conceived and incorrect conclusions.

And that's giving you the benefit of the doubt. I will assume that you are not intentionally trying to mislead.

 

[openwheel]

I still call bull that your iPhone 4 lasts longer than Razr HD. There is nothing you can do to change my opinion, perhaps someone else can open my eyes and enlighten me, but you haven't proved anything to me.

I doubt the validity of that 4% drain with 21 hr standby and 40 minutes actual usage. I also doubt the vadlity of 8 day standyby time without WiFi. That's my opinion and I am sticking to it. I am open for discussion and proof, but I'd rather not get any replies from you because I know you are extremely bias and I don't care for your personal agenda.

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[Eug]

I still call bull that your iPhone 4 lasts longer than Razr HD. There is nothing you can do to change my opinion

Bingo.

* And your "opinion" is from someone who owns neither the iPhone 4 (rated by Apple to last 300 hours in standby) nor the RAZR HD (rated by Motorola to last 286 hours in standby).

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For the record, for the others in this thread, I was just talking about standby. The iPhone 4 lasts a very long time in standby. With active use, it drains much more quickly obviously.

I doubt the validity of that 4% drain with 21 hr standby and 4 hour actual usage. I also doubt the vadlity of 8 day standyby time without WiFi. That's my opinion and I am sticking to it. I am open for discussion and proof, but I'd rather not get any replies from you because I know you are extremely bias and I don't care for your personal agenda.

He didn't say 4% drain with 21 hr standby and 4 hours of usage. So again, stop spreading misinformation.